Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
05-14-12, 07:04 PM
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Is there a lot of love for the "You know nothing, Jon Snow" line in the books or something? I didn't see the big deal.
05-14-12, 07:29 PM
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05-14-12, 07:32 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
05-14-12, 08:47 PM
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05-14-12, 09:15 PM
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05-14-12, 09:18 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
Xaro doesn't appear to want the dragons, so he let Pree take them in exchange for help in becoming king. Pree acts like he doesn't want the dragons either, but it's impossible to tell what his real motivations are. He seems more interested in getting Dany to the House of the Undying for what we can only presume will be a really creepy purpose.
My question is, was Dany being truthful when she said "They will die without me" ? Its not like she breast feeds them. As she said in an earlier episode they can feed themselves now.
05-14-12, 09:38 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
I would assume that no one in the world wants wild dragons roaming. Trained dragons that are loyal to The King of Qarth are far more useful than money.
Without Dany, those dragons will be more liability than benefit. So either recruit Dany or kill the dragons. Seems simple to me.
Either way, Xaro and Pyat Pree have Qarth in hand, they just want dragons and either the protection those bring or conquest or both.
Without Dany, those dragons will be more liability than benefit. So either recruit Dany or kill the dragons. Seems simple to me.
Either way, Xaro and Pyat Pree have Qarth in hand, they just want dragons and either the protection those bring or conquest or both.
05-14-12, 10:02 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
I think his line was something like "A mother should never be without her children. Come to the house of the Undying and you can have them back." He didn't say anything about letting her ever leave though.
05-14-12, 10:05 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
They can feed themselves because they can cook meat, but I'm not sure they can actually hunt at all because we basically haven't seen them all season. Pretty sure she's just being overly dramatic.
05-14-12, 10:32 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
Yeah, I know they still need to be given meat. But as long as someone is giving them food and water they really don't seem to need her for anything.
05-14-12, 10:47 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
Dany? Naaaah.
I thought she bordered on going from strong to petulant in the tradition of her brother. There's a guy who is basically your only claimed supporter while your situation is dire, and you're treating him like dirt. You don't care what he thinks? Cool. Care now? It just didn't seem very smart. He was likely going to do what he did anyway, but her treatment surely had to make it easier.
I thought she bordered on going from strong to petulant in the tradition of her brother. There's a guy who is basically your only claimed supporter while your situation is dire, and you're treating him like dirt. You don't care what he thinks? Cool. Care now? It just didn't seem very smart. He was likely going to do what he did anyway, but her treatment surely had to make it easier.
05-14-12, 11:02 PM
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I'm still thrown by Jamie's shocking revelation that the only woman he's ever been with was Cersie. Here is what appears to be the closest thing Westeros has to a Rock Star and the only person he's ever fucked is his (married) twin sister? That's just so, so wrong. You've got nothing to be ashamed of any more, Jon Snow.
05-14-12, 11:05 PM
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The second law of Westeros: Honor your father, except in cases where such actions conflict with the first law.
The third law of Westeros: Protect the innocent, except in cases where such actions conflict with the first two laws.
Guess nobody ever read Asimov.
Or saw "Repo Man."
05-14-12, 11:10 PM
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I thought she bordered on going from strong to petulant in the tradition of her brother. There's a guy who is basically your only claimed supporter while your situation is dire, and you're treating him like dirt. You don't care what he thinks? Cool. Care now? It just didn't seem very smart. He was likely going to do what he did anyway, but her treatment surely had to make it easier.
05-15-12, 12:16 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
Elk? There's a bunch of free-range men where they are at. Everyone knows that free-range men taste better than caged men. Ygritte would confirm this.
05-15-12, 12:51 AM
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Spoiler:
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
Solid episode, though not as good as the rest of the season thus far. Loved the scenes with Tywin and Arya. Both of them are so great; I could practically watch an episode of the two of them going back and forth.
No way that's the Stark boys at the end. They'd never kill off major characters without even showing a skirmish, but it was still a shocking end. And I agree on the music - loved it.
No way that's the Stark boys at the end. They'd never kill off major characters without even showing a skirmish, but it was still a shocking end. And I agree on the music - loved it.
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