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fumanstan 05-14-12 07:04 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 
Is there a lot of love for the "You know nothing, Jon Snow" line in the books or something? I didn't see the big deal.

Tommy Ceez 05-14-12 07:29 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11232239)
Is there a lot of love for the "You know nothing, Jon Snow" line in the books or something? I didn't see the big deal.

It's basically her catchphrase. The writers were torturing us by drawing it out so long.

ryuhayabu 05-14-12 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dalbowski (Post 11232154)
Seriously, where the heck did Ghost go?

Maybe Ghost doesn't consider wildlings a threat.

Tommy Ceez 05-14-12 07:32 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by dalbowski (Post 11232154)
Seriously, where the heck did Ghost go?

Ghost is a MASSIVE wolf that needs to eat. Jon's not capable of providing him with an elk a day from hus backpack, and it doesn't look like game is very plentiful in Iceland

Decker 05-14-12 08:47 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez (Post 11232169)

Jamie was in the Kingsguard since he was 17. I'm pretty sure they swore to not take a wife.

There's probably some sort of oath, explicit or implied, about not fucking the Queen, your sister, or both, but he didn't have a problem with that one, so why not have a go with Roz when she's not around or something?
:)

wishbone 05-14-12 09:15 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11232239)
Is there a lot of love for the "You know nothing, Jon Snow" line in the books or something? I didn't see the big deal.


Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez (Post 11232273)
It's basically her catchphrase. The writers were torturing us by drawing it out so long.

http://i45.tinypic.com/317hcw8.jpg


*I made a slight edit to the original cartoon.

Thrush 05-14-12 09:18 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by Mordred (Post 11232127)
Xaro doesn't appear to want the dragons, so he let Pree take them in exchange for help in becoming king. Pree acts like he doesn't want the dragons either, but it's impossible to tell what his real motivations are. He seems more interested in getting Dany to the House of the Undying for what we can only presume will be a really creepy purpose.

Yeah he wants her at the House of the Undying to do god knows what with her.

My question is, was Dany being truthful when she said "They will die without me" ? Its not like she breast feeds them. As she said in an earlier episode they can feed themselves now.

pinata242 05-14-12 09:38 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 
I would assume that no one in the world wants wild dragons roaming. Trained dragons that are loyal to The King of Qarth are far more useful than money.

Without Dany, those dragons will be more liability than benefit. So either recruit Dany or kill the dragons. Seems simple to me.

Either way, Xaro and Pyat Pree have Qarth in hand, they just want dragons and either the protection those bring or conquest or both.

Mordred 05-14-12 10:02 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 11232163)
Hmm, I took what he said to mean that he knew she would come after them, and that he'd force her to take care of the dragons while they are young. Or something like that. It definitely didn't seem like he didn't WANT the dragons.

Now that I think about it, you could be right.

I think his line was something like "A mother should never be without her children. Come to the house of the Undying and you can have them back." He didn't say anything about letting her ever leave though.

Mordred 05-14-12 10:05 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by Thrush (Post 11232395)
My question is, was Dany being truthful when she said "They will die without me" ? Its not like she breast feeds them. As she said in an earlier episode they can feed themselves now.

They can feed themselves because they can cook meat, but I'm not sure they can actually hunt at all because we basically haven't seen them all season. Pretty sure she's just being overly dramatic.

Thrush 05-14-12 10:32 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by Mordred (Post 11232436)
They can feed themselves because they can cook meat, but I'm not sure they can actually hunt at all because we basically haven't seen them all season. Pretty sure she's just being overly dramatic.

Yeah, I know they still need to be given meat. But as long as someone is giving them food and water they really don't seem to need her for anything.

MikahC 05-14-12 10:47 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by Mordred (Post 11232436)
Pretty sure she's just being overly dramatic.

Dany? Naaaah.

I thought she bordered on going from strong to petulant in the tradition of her brother. There's a guy who is basically your only claimed supporter while your situation is dire, and you're treating him like dirt. You don't care what he thinks? Cool. Care now? It just didn't seem very smart. He was likely going to do what he did anyway, but her treatment surely had to make it easier.

Josh-da-man 05-14-12 11:02 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by Decker (Post 11231902)
I'm still thrown by Jamie's shocking revelation that the only woman he's ever been with was Cersie. Here is what appears to be the closest thing Westeros has to a Rock Star and the only person he's ever fucked is his (married) twin sister? That's just so, so wrong. You've got nothing to be ashamed of any more, Jon Snow.

Sort of hard to believe that Theon Greyjoy gets more pussy than the goddamn Kingslayer.

Josh-da-man 05-14-12 11:05 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez (Post 11232169)
And Jamie's KingSlayer explination was perfect.

"you swear an oath to protect the king, you swear to honor your father, you swear to protect the innocent.

What if your father despises the king, what if the king kills the innocent?"

The first law of Westeros: Protect the King.
The second law of Westeros: Honor your father, except in cases where such actions conflict with the first law.
The third law of Westeros: Protect the innocent, except in cases where such actions conflict with the first two laws.

Guess nobody ever read Asimov.

Or saw "Repo Man."

Thrush 05-14-12 11:10 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by MikahC (Post 11232495)
I thought she bordered on going from strong to petulant in the tradition of her brother. There's a guy who is basically your only claimed supporter while your situation is dire, and you're treating him like dirt. You don't care what he thinks? Cool. Care now? It just didn't seem very smart. He was likely going to do what he did anyway, but her treatment surely had to make it easier.

She is certainly a lot less likable since she got those Dragons. Shes become more like her brother. Lusting after the throne, angry, thinks everyone owes her something, somewhat delusional.

fumanstan 05-14-12 11:14 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by wishbone (Post 11232390)

I don't get it. :sad:

dalbowski 05-15-12 12:16 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez (Post 11232278)
Ghost is a MASSIVE wolf that needs to eat. Jon's not capable of providing him with an elk a day from hus backpack, and it doesn't look like game is very plentiful in Iceland

Elk? There's a bunch of free-range men where they are at. Everyone knows that free-range men taste better than caged men. Ygritte would confirm this.

Draven 05-15-12 12:51 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by Decker (Post 11232368)
There's probably some sort of oath, explicit or implied, about not fucking the Queen, your sister, or both, but he didn't have a problem with that one, so why not have a go with Roz when she's not around or something?
:)

Not really a spoiler but there is a simple explanation:

Spoiler:
Jamie doesn't WANT anyone else
.

Josh-da-man 05-15-12 03:22 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11232546)
I don't get it. :sad:

You know nothing, fumanstan.

creekdipper 05-15-12 05:14 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by wishbone (Post 11232390)

Thanks for posting the advance artwork for the set of McDonald's GOT glasses.

The Bus 05-15-12 06:02 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 
He just wants run a train on her, except all the dudes are him.

starman9000 05-15-12 06:38 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by The Bus (Post 11232697)
He just wants run a train on her, except all the dudes are him.

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Groucho 05-15-12 07:35 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11232546)
I don't get it. :sad:

In the books, Ghost is:
Spoiler:
Mute

wishbone 05-15-12 07:36 AM

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islandclaws 05-15-12 10:41 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "A Man Without Honor" -- 5/13/12
 
Solid episode, though not as good as the rest of the season thus far. Loved the scenes with Tywin and Arya. Both of them are so great; I could practically watch an episode of the two of them going back and forth.

No way that's the Stark boys at the end. They'd never kill off major characters without even showing a skirmish, but it was still a shocking end. And I agree on the music - loved it.


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