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Theon lived with them for years, he would have known. The better question is how his 2nd knew (what is his name?). He's the one who was obviously behind the whole "plot".

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You had an idea what was coming, but to me it was still a shocking scene nonetheless. It also showed how depraved JAime is and I don't think we've seen how viscous he is up until now (besides banging his sister and throwing Bran out of the window, that is. :lol:).

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I'm guessing that maybe there was a deleted scene where the trackers kept finding walnut shells, and made the association.

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These threads are so dangerous; a banning around every corner it sometimes seems. That's why I changed my sig. Just in case one of my guesses is too close to the book.

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When alton talked about squiring for Jamie was the greatest moment of his life, and will remember it on his death bed or whatever.. I was thinking oh he is going to get it,.

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Now I am more confused. Didn't Bran say they couldn't go there? I thought they in fact did not travel to the farm.
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The ending would imply that they did travel to the farm but we really don't know for certain Pharoh.

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That's what I initially thought, but then Osha said 'We had a good start on them, but we can't outrun hounds forever," leaving it open as to whether they would go to the farm or not.

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Maybe they bypassed the farm, but have been inadvertently leaving walnut shells like a trial of breadcrumbs for the trackers. The trackers reach the farm, torture those living on the farm thinking they must be abetting Bran, his brother, Osha, and the giant. They kill all of them out of frustration and hatch the plan to burn the two kids there, to later display them at Winterfell?

Thos.

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I think it was beyond obvious that that is the case. Surprised to see so many people believing it is actually the Stark boys. I haven't read the books.

BTW, to those that have read the books, was Jaime's escape written the same way? I thought it was pretty ludicrous.

Really, really want to see what happens with Jon Snow.

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The escape did seem kind of pointless. One scene he is escaping and the next he is caught again by the same people.

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It wasn't pointless, it's getting all of the Stark soldier's riled up, wanting to kill him. I just thought the execution of the escape (and the moments leading up to it) were handled terribly. Seemed really unbelievable that the guard would be that stupid, and that no one else would be around to notice it going on.

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I would think that, with all of the men at the camp, they would have more than one guard on their highest value prisoner. Especially when they put another prisoner in with him.

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Everybody seems to be overlooking the obvious answer. Osha and Bran probably planted the walnut shells near the farmhouse in the hopes that Theon would mistakenly kill the orphans and they'd get away scot free.



No?

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I know you were joking but Bran did say they should avoid the farm so they did not get innocent people hung.

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That wasn't a Frey; Jaime killed his cousin, Alton Lannister, son of the only fat Lannister. :)

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Can you give some details about how it was handled in the book? Unless it spoils things we haven't seen yet in the show.

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I don't think this will spoil anything in the show...

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The first season was so much better ...

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I think the book's scenario played out better than what we saw last night but it is what it is. :shrug:

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I think with all these questions about who did what and walnuts and showing this and not showing that it all points to one glaring thing:

Cramming all this content into 10 episodes is a detriment to the show.

Jamie's escape was stupid. It felt like they took him out to kick around for the guards death while the sun came up. Not that he got away, was hunted, and caught.

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Who believes it was the Stark boys?