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Old 04-17-12 | 05:25 PM
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

Originally Posted by bluetoast
The entire office? No way would I wager that. Pete, Megan and Cooper are the only ones I would bet know, Don has no reason to reveal his identity, but he's becoming more relaxed about talking about this actual childhood.
Yep. And Pete's success as a partner (junior though he may be) is tied to Don.
Old 04-17-12 | 05:33 PM
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This was far and away my favorite episode ever!!!

It was just so good on so many levels. i was actually giddy throughout and tense and giddy. it was so fantastic. this is why i love this show.

the drip at the end was just genius and then playing my favorite ode ever in Beethoven's Ode to Joy as the credits rolled had me shed a light tear.

Pete getting his ass kicked wasn't even the highlight for me. it was all the banter that made the show always great. i am an action man, but g-damn if i don't love the banter on this show. it is so deep and calculated that is simply floors me.

i am not even a Pete hater, but he did surely deserved the ill-tidings in the entire ep. and then when he said "I have nothing" to Don in the elevator was just delivered so great by Kartheiser.

Signal 30 will go down in my giddy dreams as probably my favorite episode ever of this show.
Old 04-17-12 | 06:30 PM
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

Only show on TV where you'll go "Yeeeeeaaaa-uuuhhh" when someone fixes a faucet.


Fantastic.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

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Have ya'll seen this?

Blanked out to reduce bandwidth use.

Can I get my 46 seconds back?
Old 04-17-12 | 07:33 PM
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

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then playing my favorite ode ever in Beethoven's Ode to Joy as the credits rolled had me shed a light tear.
I liked how the piece of the 9th they played was obviously off of a vinyl record (the background hiss), calling back to Pete's new stereo.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

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And also: Richard Speck (from last week) + Charles Whitman = Dick Whitman?

Foreshadowing? This show doesn't do coincidences like this.
It could be drawing parallels, people with hidden lives. Also let's not forget that Don fever dreamed of killing a woman.

Brilliant, brilliant episode. So many great moments. I did think the dude fingering the chick in the driving course was a little over the top, but that's my only nitpick.

Pete is going to have some kind of blow-up soon. Doubt it will be a shooting spree of jumping out the window, but things are building up.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

My prediction. Pete's blow-up will turn into something admirable. Probably over the race issue which we know from facial expressions disgusts him.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

I wouldn't be so sure about Pete having a blow-up. Let us not forget that he's been on the losing end more than once before - dating back to Season 1 when Pete revealed to Cooper the truth about who Don Draper really was...and Cooper said to Pete, "Who cares?" Then there was the scene during the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis, when Pete was perched in his office with his rifle in the Ready position; etc, etc. We see Pete down at the end of an episode, but then you see Pete up at the start of another.

But Pete is the perfect hypocrite. After he got beat up by Lane, he said to Don, "We work in an office; we're all supposed to be friends." Really, Pete? Is that why you backstab everybody whenever you can?

And what was it, exactly, that Pete said that caused Lane to react to excessively?
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
Probably over the race issue which we know from facial expressions disgusts him.
I know you're right - Pete gets disgusted by racial stuff. Yet, in this episode, it sounded like he was imitating a black man. I forget what it was he said, but he drawled out a response at his house party. Sounded racial to me, and I was surprised, knowing Pete as I do to disdain racial stuff.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

I felt that that Don killing the woman was him killing the last bits of his urges for infidelity. He really is trying to change, and maybe that sickness was a representation of how he went through that to get "cured".


Originally Posted by Buttmunker
And what was it, exactly, that Pete said that caused Lane to react to excessively?
Pete said that he didn't see any need for Lane's presence as soon as they started the new company. That barb hit home for Lane particularly because it seems (as he revealed to Joan later) he had been questioning what in fact he actually does at SCDP. On top of that Lane had previously helped Pete, said he liked him, made him head of accounts, etc.

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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

could Don actually be in love with meghan?

naaaah
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

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could Don actually be in love with meghan?

naaaah
Love? Lord above, now you're gonna trick me in love, ow!
Old 04-18-12 | 11:39 AM
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

For the ones talking about Pete falling, I remember an interview before the season started.

Spoiler:

The actor basically said that it was going to be a roller coaster season for Pete, that first you think he's going down and then he will succeed. So yeah, this is basically his lowest point, and we are going to see now how Pete takes control.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

Yerr gonna believe an actor?
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

Originally Posted by Decker
A few quick questions :
Didn't Lane and his wife divorce last season and wasn't she in England? Did they reconcile or am I just confused about their history? I certainly remember his relationship with the Playboy Club waitress and thought he was a divorced buy then.
His father made him go back to England and reconcile with his wife last season. He took a leave of absence and they returned with him.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

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His father made him go back to England and reconcile with his wife last season. He took a leave of absence and they returned with him.
Also, recall in the first meeting of the partners in this episode when Lane said he had an announcement, Pete piped in with a, "Taking a leave again?" which is likely in reference to this.
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Jared Harris is some actor. I had no idea he was the same guy playing David Robert Jones on Fringe. They've really made him up to be some bookkeeper geek on Mad Men. I was also surprised when I saw him playing Professor James Moriarty in Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows. He's had a pretty decent career.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

Does anyone else think it's truly bizarre that at some point earlier in the series Peggy revealed to Pete that she conceived his baby and gave it up, and nothing has been said about it between those two ever since? I would think that the work relationship would have been unsustainable or extremely awkward at best from that point forward.

Pete did have this creepy stalker vibe going on during that driving class. He is just plain creepy period.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

Originally Posted by bluetoast
I felt that that Don killing the woman was him killing the last bits of his urges for infidelity. He really is trying to change, and maybe that sickness was a representation of how he went through that to get "cured".




Pete said that he didn't see any need for Lane's presence as soon as they started the new company. That barb hit home for Lane particularly because it seems (as he revealed to Joan later) he had been questioning what in fact he actually does at SCDP. On top of that Lane had previously helped Pete, said he liked him, made him head of accounts, etc.
That and he called Lane a "homo".
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

Haha that too. The client just didn't mesh with Lane right, he didn't necessarily think that about him? If so even more of a dick move on Peter's part.
Old 04-18-12 | 09:51 PM
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

Lane's proper phrasing for starting the fight cracked me up: "Mr. Campbell, you and I are going to address that insult."

Also the way Pete looked over at the other guys before Moriarty delivered the knockout blow.
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Originally Posted by bluetoast
Haha that too. The client just didn't mesh with Lane right, he didn't necessarily think that about him? If so even more of a dick move on Peter's part.
The guy from Jaguar explicitly said that he and Lane didn't share the same 'interests', which might have been what Pete said or might be that Lane wasn't a 'party' kind of guy.

Some other interesting things that I read elsewhere were that the first mispronunciation of Charles Whitman's name was Charles Widmore, a shout out to "Lost". Lost co-creator Damon Lindelof has been tweeting lines from Ken Cosgrove's short stories.

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/04/16...n-fan-fiction/

Also, that the shot with Pete and Ken talking about how a body could fit in the stereo cabinet, was apparently a re-creation of a shot from Hitchcock's Rope.

I thought this was a pretty good episode summary:

http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollyw...-pete-campbell
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Nice, thanks for those links. Something that I read from commenter on another site was that maybe Don has a new respect for Ken in terms of both having a "secret identity."
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Re: Mad Men -- "Signal 30" -- 4/15/12

Originally Posted by misterchimpy
Some other interesting things that I read elsewhere were that the first mispronunciation of Charles Whitman's name was Charles Widmore, a shout out to "Lost". Lost co-creator Damon Lindelof has been tweeting lines from Ken Cosgrove's short stories.

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/04/16...n-fan-fiction/

Haha, holy shit yes!

When he said "Charles Widmore" I was like, no fucking way that was an accident.

Awesome episode, gonna watch it again right now.
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"I turned it on and it blew up in my face."

Yes it did, Trudy... Yes it did.


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