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Guru Askew 12-05-11 03:06 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 
This season is a step up from Season 5. I enjoyed S5 a lot when I re-watched it on Blu but I'd still rank it lowest, it obviously has to be one of them. Having seen 10 of the 12 current season episodes I don't mind ranking it among the rest. They'd have to really drop the ball to get me to change my assessment:

4
1
2
6
3
5

brainee 12-05-11 03:25 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 

Originally Posted by bunkaroo (Post 11031138)
I personally thought the Jimmy Smits season (season 3?) dragged ass.

That's my pick for my least favorite season. It just seemed to meander about (with the "looking for Freebo" and "Skinner" stories). But even Dexter's worst season was worth watching for me.

Season 2 was my favorite. Everything just seemed to be extra intense, with Dexter himself being the target the manhunt.

I'm not judging this season till it's over. But it feels like it could be in the running with season 3 for my least favorite. For many of the reasons we've talked about in these threads. Hanks not being a compelling "big bad" (though Olmos could've been) ... laughably telegraphed "twist" of Gellar not being real ... side plots we don't care about (like La Guerta nagging Deb all the time).

anomynous 12-05-11 03:30 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo (Post 11031053)
Wait, what? Are you serious?

First of all, season two is one of the two seasons that had Doakes in it (No Doakes season could be bad), and it was the Bay Harbor Butcher season! It's arguably one of the most popular seasons.

And five had Lumen. Lumen was awesome.

This season has Tom Hanks' terrible actor of a son and not much else.

Dead serious.


Doakes was more annoying than LaGuerta, and Season 5 was boring. Every thread on here was just bitching about how bad Julia Stiles/Lumen were.

Shazam 12-05-11 03:34 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 
Season 5 and The Search For a Nanny.

S2 was good.

S3 had Smits, which was good, but the whole season seemed scattered, as mentioned. Also way too much LaGuerta.

Having said all that, even bad Dexter is still pretty damned good, except for S5.

Dragon Tattoo 12-05-11 03:40 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 

Originally Posted by anomynous (Post 11031195)
Doakes was more annoying than LaGuerta

Wow. Well, I guess the world has all types.

anomynous 12-05-11 03:58 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 
Though I haven't watched Season 1 or 2 in 3 years, and I watched them back to back.


Spoiler:
lulz @ my comment being deleted but not DT's. Double Standard much?

clckworang 12-05-11 04:04 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 
I haven't watched season 2 since it first aired, but I remember not being too big of a fan. This season and season 2 would probably rank among the lowest seasons for me. There were problems with other seasons, but I thought the good outweighed the bad. For example, I agree with the problems in the Jimmy Smits season, but I thought Smits and his character's interactions with Dexter were enough to rank it above season 2. Also, I wasn't a big fan of Doakes; I didn't think it was too big of a loss when he went boom.

bluetoast 12-05-11 05:08 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 
Man, according to that interview posted earlier, a number of directors and Colin Hanks didn't even know Gellar was in his head until the 8th episode. Damn.

anomynous 12-05-11 05:14 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 

Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 11031338)
Man, according to that interview posted earlier, a number of directors and Colin Hanks didn't even know Gellar was in his head until the 8th episode. Damn.

Obviously they did a better job hiding it while shooting it than how it turned out.

Groucho 12-05-11 05:29 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 
I can believe that Colin Hanks didn't understand what was going on. I'm pretty sure that guy's in a coma, or at the very least sleepwalking all the time.

PopcornTreeCt 12-05-11 06:10 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 
Can we please stop getting off track in these threads? This is twice now from the same poster. Please, let's just move on.

Anyway, finally watched it... Hanks isn't any better now that he's 100% psycho. I think the intern's video game and Dexter's reaction will definitely set things in motion for him to be a real life serial killer. He'll probably use that excuse that he's gathering material for his game. Maybe he'll be called the video game killer?

I like that Deb figured out Matthews already. I also like her sorta discovering more about herself and her feelings towards Dexter... this all seems to point to her dying. Hopefully, the writers won't go that route but at this point I wouldn't be surprised.

Coral 12-05-11 07:53 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 
As mentioned earlier, the writing is pretty sloppy to the point where it's become silly. The security guard with the door, the 911 call from Dexter is his own voice, cops entering the church nonchalantly, etc.

It's also getting damn ridiculous how Dexter can get information about someone so quickly with a search engine or some other means. I don't need to watch him struggle to find important info on Google for 20 minutes in real time - but just have some time elapse in the show. Things drop into his lap way to quick and easily.

I thought the scene where Dexter was watching Travis in a conversation with himself was pretty cheesy - and it was extra lame that it luckily happened right in front of Dexter's limited view. Even the dialog is bad... after Travis' soliloquy, Dexter tells us "I have to stop him". Ugh.

dhmac 12-05-11 08:01 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 
Interesting twist on how Gellar was completely innocent and it was always Travis. I knew Gellar was dead but thought he was partially guilty of at least plotting the killings and Travis was only completing the plans, so I didn't see that one coming.


Some things in this episode that I thought were setting something up...

- Batista calling Quinn and leaving a message just before visiting wacko & wife's home. I think that totally set up Quinn showing up and rescuing Batista in the next episode.

- Dexter always using the computer to search and then returning to the previous screen before walking off as computer geek intern walks in. Totally setting up the geek looking at the browsing history and finding something out about what Dexter has been doing.

- Travis deciding it was a sign to poison the police station makes me think at least one regular character at the station will die. (Of course, it may just be a throw away character we seldom see, like Chief Matthews.)

mwbmis 12-05-11 08:39 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 

Originally Posted by dhmac (Post 11031549)
- Travis deciding it was a sign to poison the police station makes me think at least one regular character at the station will die. (Of course, it may just be a throw away character we seldom see, like Chief Matthews.)

We can always hope it's La Guerta though I wouldn't mind a complete house clean (obviously Deb has to live, and we can save Vince too).

The show gets sillier every year. Last year, I really liked the Lumen character and the dynamic that she brought to Dexter and the show. This year...not so much. Even Brother Sam seemed a little forced. And Travis is probably only better than the Skinner in terms of "big bads".

I still miss Doakes.

Dragon Tattoo 12-05-11 08:59 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 

Originally Posted by mwbmis (Post 11031598)
We can always hope it's La Guerta though I wouldn't mind a complete house clean (obviously Deb has to live, and we can save Vince too).

The black guy can't die. He was just introduced. And the intern's apparently some new serial killer according to random speculation on the interwebs. Deb can't die, and I doubt they'd kill Batista. Quinn escaped his death last season.

So, Laguerta or the chief. One of them has to die anyway or this dead hooker storyline will never end.

Shazam 12-05-11 09:29 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 
Matthews die? Why? And by who?

Coral 12-05-11 09:30 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 

Originally Posted by dhmac (Post 11031549)
- Dexter always using the computer to search and then returning to the previous screen before walking off as computer geek intern walks in. Totally setting up the geek looking at the browsing history and finding something out about what Dexter has been doing.

Dexter always seems to have a browser already launched when he goes to use any of his computers - which seems to indicate he rarely clears his browser history/cache - which is beyond dumb for someone who does what he does, no less in a police department.

Another thing (for Dexter and all other shows/movies). It's 2011... everyone's basically used a computer at home or work. There's no need to provide digitized sounds effects when we see someone surfing the web or running an application on the computers. We understand that when you type something in or push a mouse button that information will be provided to you on the screen - we don't need unrealistic sounds to tell us it's happening.

bluetoast 12-05-11 09:42 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 
Also, not until this (or maybe last) season did I know/notice that the Miami Metro HQ is on the waterfront. They use noticeably different establishing shots this season, but it just didn't seem that way location wise in the first season for example.

Jadzia 12-05-11 10:08 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 
MOD NOTE:

The thread was getting off-track with some posters swiping at each other. In the interest of keeping the thread open I have removed the off-topic remarks and wish to remind everyone to stay on topic of discussing the episode. Please stop bickering on the forums; it ruins it for everyone. Thanks.


Mike86 12-05-11 11:00 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 
Good episode in my opinion. I don't really care what others think the show is still fun to watch and Dexter even at it's weakest is better than most other stuff on television. The 911 call was a mistake on Dexter's part but how do we know the writers aren't putting it there as Dexter making a mistake and maybe it will be brought up later? After all
Spoiler:
we've heard that this season will be the set up of the "end game" for the series. Maybe Deb will listen to the call and figure out it was Dexter who called in and start putting more pieces together.
I like that they're using Quinn's drinking habits as coming back and effecting not only himself but Batista now being put in danger because of him. I also really like the therapy sessions Deb's been having and revealing the issues that she obviously has. Seems like this could be another way to bring to light the truth about Dexter for her.

The show isn't perfect but it's still entertaining to me. A lot of the griping in this thread seems like people are just picking apart every little aspect of the show trying to find flaws. Colin Hanks isn't the world's best actor but I think people are being overly harsh on him. He's playing a wacko religious killer and I think he's acting the part fairly well. I think this season is way better than season five was and would rank it fairly high (1, 2, 4, 6, 3, 5 are my rankings as of now).

Josh-da-man 12-05-11 11:36 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 11030786)
Dexter sure is using that new search engine a lot....

Yeah. Don't know if it's going to be a plot point in the near future, or if they're just using a fake brand name so they don't inadvertently advertise for google.

But they sure seem to love those Macs.

windom 12-05-11 11:36 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 
Maybe Dexter uses the private browsing option on his browser.

dhmac 12-06-11 07:16 AM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 
Question: how did Travis find the Richochet Rabbit boat with the original whore on it? How did he know where it was and that she was there?

When Travis first caught her (before letting her go), she was chosen randomly in a parking lot, so he didn't have a lot of info on her besides still having her IDs from when she was his prisoner. How did he know she was now staying on a boat owned by her boss (with whom she was apparently having an affair with)?

dhmac 12-06-11 07:21 AM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 

Originally Posted by Coral (Post 11031637)
Dexter always seems to have a browser already launched when he goes to use any of his computers - which seems to indicate he rarely clears his browser history/cache - which is beyond dumb for someone who does what he does, no less in a police department.

Ignoring the unrealistic nature of Internet use (I chalk that up to it being a TV show), my point is that when Dexter got up from browser to walk out, the computer geek would be walking in right then. That coincidence recurring in the episode seemed to me to be directly setting up the geek eventually checking his browsing history as a plot device in a later episode.

Josh-da-man 12-06-11 07:25 AM

Re: Dexter -- "Ricochet Rabbit" -- 12/04/11
 

Originally Posted by dhmac (Post 11031891)
Question: how did Travis find the Richochet Rabbit boat with the original whore on it? How did he know where it was and that she was there?

Sort of wondered that myself. It looked like he followed her out there, so maybe he (as "Gellar?") had been stalking her since he let her go.


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