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Larry C. 08-14-12 01:24 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by bunkaroo (Post 11346545)
Oh wow you're in for a treat when Tony and Silvio

Spoiler:

double penetrate Carmella
:lol:

islandclaws 08-14-12 01:42 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
"I love you, too, Johnny Cakes."

That is all.

BuckNaked2k 08-21-12 11:27 AM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Well I just finished watching the first 4 seasons in about 10 days on Blu-ray, and have been avoiding this thread so as not to spoil Season 5.

I don't watch much TV (check my TV collection under Aficionado), and I don't even know if I have AMC on my cable package. I heard a well-known radio personality heaping praise on this show, so I said "what the heck".

I have to agree with the sentiment that this is one of the best dramas of all time. I got hooked (no pun) early on, and stayed with it. The episodes were consistently compelling, with a few slow patches in Season 3 (the Fly?). I can't imagine watching this on broadcast, with commercials, waiting a week for the next episode to air.

As a non-TV watcher, I would appreciate any recommendations for other shows which might be as compelling as this one. Thanks.

RichC2 08-21-12 12:36 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by BuckNaked2k (Post 11354641)
As a non-TV watcher, I would appreciate any recommendations for other shows which might be as compelling as this one. Thanks.
As a TV watcher, so would I. Homeland is the closest I can think of right now, but that's only 1 short season thus far.

I wish I could recommend Boardwalk Empire or Dexter, Walking Dead or True Blood or something along those lines, but none of them are anywhere near as compelling imo. Actually now that I think about it, I don't think any of those are particularly good shows either.


And I feel like a fool for saying it, but watch Terriers, once the show starts rolling it's a compelling, fun 13 episodes 1 and done series.

DthRdrX 08-21-12 12:54 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by dhmac (Post 11345907)
Superficially, yes. Tonally, no. The two shows are about as dissimilar as possible, so either it was a lousy pitch or that executive was an idiot (or both).
I'm kinda surprised FX passed on Breaking Bad but their reasons made sense at least.

1.) They didn't want to run another show where the main character was an anti-hero.

2.) Fear that a show that revolves around cooking and selling meth could have turned out bad for the network.

DthRdrX 08-21-12 12:57 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11354759)
As a TV watcher, so would I. Homeland is the closest I can think of right now, but that's only 1 short season thus far.

I wish I could recommend Boardwalk Empire or Dexter, Walking Dead or True Blood or something along those lines, but none of them are anywhere near as compelling imo. Actually now that I think about it, I don't think any of those are particularly good shows either.


And I feel like a fool for saying it, but watch Terriers, once the show starts rolling it's a compelling, fun 13 episodes 1 and done series.
BE is fine, but can be hard to get into. Walking Dead took a few steps back in S2 but I'm looking forward to s3.

Never watched True Blood as the subject matter doesn't interest me. Dexter needs to end already.

The only show on TV I'd rather watch the next season of more than Breaking Bad is Game of Thrones.

Tarantino 08-21-12 01:53 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 11346453)
Recently finished S1, now on to S2. Man, all that shit with Tuco had my gf extremely tense. It's cute that she still doesn't understand they'll never kill off the main characters in a show like this.
Obviously she never watched The Wire?

BuckNaked2k 08-21-12 03:34 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11354759)
I wish I could recommend Boardwalk Empire or Dexter, Walking Dead or True Blood or something along those lines, but none of them are anywhere near as compelling imo. Actually now that I think about it, I don't think any of those are particularly good shows either.

And I feel like a fool for saying it, but watch Terriers, once the show starts rolling it's a compelling, fun 13 episodes 1 and done series.
Thanks. I watched the first season of BE....not bad. I'll probably catch Season 2 once on Blu. WD....I just snagged Season 1, haven't started it yet (not really into zombies....kind of been done before). TB....I watched the first two seasons then gave up, never to return.

Terriers? I never heard of it. I may have to check it out.

RichC2 08-21-12 03:45 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
I watched Dead Set just before Walking Dead started, and for some reason Walking Dead seemed kind of bland to me. I think I'm just over zombies as well.

Raul3 08-22-12 08:10 AM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Not sure if there's something similar.

My favorite shows, as I got as excited about them as BB, are: The Wire, Lost and Six Feed Under. They are not similar to BB, of course, but, specially The Wire and Lost, are the kind of shows that you can marathon, because "you can't wait for the next episode!!!!".

Tarantino 08-23-12 10:44 AM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
The Shield is another one.

Xander 08-23-12 12:27 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Just finished season 3 last night. Holy shit! I can't wait to start watching season 4. :thumbsup:

Spoiler:

Walt is turning cold-blooded, yo. And Aaron Paul's acting has continued to improve and amaze me. That last scene with him and Gale was excellent.

islandclaws 08-23-12 01:13 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by Tarantino (Post 11354883)
Obviously she never watched The Wire?
Actually, she keeps trying to turn me on to it. She's seen the entire run; I haven't seen it at all.

Snowmaker 08-23-12 11:02 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by Xander (Post 11357308)
Just finished season 3 last night. Holy shit! I can't wait to start watching season 4. :thumbsup:
Well I just finished season 2, so SHHH!

The last 4-5 episodes finally got me to the point of being impatient for the next one ,but the finale pissed me off. All season they keep hinting towards something big with that damn pink teddy bear fished out of the pool and such
Spoiler:
only to have it be an unrelated plane crash overhead. I was also liking Jesse's girlfriend until she turned into a bitch. I was happy she died.

As for her dad, was he just not able to focus on his job, causing the crash, or did they not hear him or what? I couldn't understand what happened there.

sydonesia 08-23-12 11:32 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Count me as someone late to the Breaking Bad bandwagon. Started season 1 two months ago and I can proudly say as of tonight I am caught up with the series.

Season 4 might be the greatest 13 episodes of anything ever.

Every season has been better than the one before. Easily. Though I will say I'm not as impressed with season 5, though it's still miles away better than any other show.

All season they keep hinting towards something big with that damn pink teddy bear fished out of the pool and such
Keep watching. And remember what shape it was in.

Michael Corvin 08-23-12 11:33 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by Snowmaker (Post 11357939)
Well I just finished season 2, so SHHH!

The last 4-5 episodes finally got me to the point of being impatient for the next one ,but the finale pissed me off. All season they keep hinting towards something big with that damn pink teddy bear fished out of the pool and such
Spoiler:
only to have it be an unrelated plane crash overhead. I was also liking Jesse's girlfriend until she turned into a bitch. I was happy she died.

As for her dad, was he just not able to focus on his job, causing the crash, or did they not hear him or what? I couldn't understand what happened there.
It wasn't unrelated.

Spoiler:
by letting Jane die he set in motion the chain reaction that caused the plane crash. Daddy was too distraught to be on such a high pressure job so soon after.

Snowmaker 08-24-12 08:12 AM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11357967)
It wasn't unrelated.
Well, unrelated compared to what I thought it could be. I thought some big event actually happens in the house.

AVP77 08-24-12 10:48 AM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Yeah, this is one of my fave shows ever, but the 'big event' at the end of season 2 is kind of lame. Walt would be so far down the list of people who are responsible for that. Few consider that a high-point of the show.

Walt does kind of make up for it with the awesome speech to the school later though, lol. "I blame the government."

xVladx 08-24-12 12:20 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by AVP77 (Post 11358361)
Yeah, this is one of my fave shows ever, but the 'big event' at the end of season 2 is kind of lame. Walt would be so far down the list of people who are responsible for that. Few consider that a high-point of the show.
I still maintain that the event
Spoiler:
would have worked a lot better without all the foreshadowing leading up to it for the entire season. When you foreshadow something like that, you expect there to be actual major consequences for the characters you know. While the event was something that would be a huge event in real life, it didn't directly affect any of the characters that we knew, making it seem like a bit of a cheat.

If there wasn't any of the foreshadowing leading up to it, it still would have been a bit of a random wtf-level event, but it wouldn't have felt like as much of a cheat.

sydonesia 08-24-12 01:25 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by xVladx (Post 11358467)
I still maintain that the event
Spoiler:
would have worked a lot better without all the foreshadowing leading up to it for the entire season. When you foreshadow something like that, you expect there to be actual major consequences for the characters you know. While the event was something that would be a huge event in real life, it didn't directly affect any of the characters that we knew, making it seem like a bit of a cheat.

If there wasn't any of the foreshadowing leading up to it, it still would have been a bit of a random wtf-level event, but it wouldn't have felt like as much of a cheat.
I think the problem was that season 2 was written with a specific payoff in mind so everything was written to build to that moment which made it seem a little forced when they got there.

I read somewhere that was the only season that knew what it was building to. All other seasons thereafter just let the plots and situations grow from episode to episode with no particular end in mind.

RichC2 08-24-12 03:34 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
The Season 2 finale through the first few episodes of Season 3 was the series low point for me. Well that and Fly.

dolphinboy 08-24-12 07:56 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Even after 16 pages, I still maintain there's a very simple answer to the original question that I posed:

NO. ;)

Michael Corvin 08-24-12 09:50 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
The fact that this show gains viewers every year whereas every other show loses them kinda disproves your stance.

freshticles 08-24-12 10:51 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
I don't know why, but everytime I see this thread title, I get more and more pissed off.

dolphinboy 08-24-12 11:43 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by freshticles (Post 11359205)
I don't know why, but everytime I see this thread title, I get more and more pissed off.
You have no idea how happy that makes me. :)

Tarantino 08-25-12 07:40 AM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by dolphinboy (Post 11359252)
You have no idea how happy that makes me. :)
You have no idea how stupid this makes you sound.

andy434343 08-25-12 08:30 AM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Dolphinboy must live under a bridge and have some magical powers, even though he started this thread.

JohnSlider 08-25-12 11:30 AM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by freshticles (Post 11359205)
I don't know why, but everytime I see this thread title, I get more and more pissed off.
I just laugh hysterically every time I see it.

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dolphinboy 08-25-12 03:49 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by Tarantino (Post 11359407)
You have no idea how stupid this makes you sound.
Not stupid enough to resort to name-calling.

Rob V 08-31-12 09:55 AM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Caught "Mandala" and "Phoenix" from S2 last night... HOLY SHIT!! Great episodes right there. I just ordered S3 Blu as well. I'm absolutely loving this show and watching Walt develop from a push-over at the Car Wash job to a total hard ass.

Larry C. 08-31-12 10:24 AM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Everytime I see this thread title I get pissed :lol:

slop101 08-31-12 10:45 AM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Figured this would be a appropriate thread for this; here's a <strike>guy</strike> girl who lays into Breaking Bad, deconstructing it, basically revealing that it's a case of Emperor w/o clothes.

While I still love BB, I can't really disagree with a lot of what <strike>he</strike> she says.

But at least <strike>he</strike> she gives REASONS, unlike the OP.
(oh, and it contains spoilers up to the most recent episode)

http://badassdigest.com/2012/08/30/w...s-been-a-jerk/

fumanstan 08-31-12 11:47 AM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
People getting angry because someone doesn't like the same show they do is funny to me.

xVladx 08-31-12 01:03 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 11366546)
Figured this would be a appropriate thread for this; here's a <strike>guy</strike> girl who lays into Breaking Bad, deconstructing it, basically revealing that it's a case of Emperor w/o clothes.

While I still love BB, I can't really disagree with a lot of what <strike>he</strike> she says.

But at least <strike>he</strike> she gives REASONS, unlike the OP.
(oh, and it contains spoilers up to the most recent episode)

http://badassdigest.com/2012/08/30/w...s-been-a-jerk/
Yeah... I can't say I really agree with most of that at all. I'll probably post a response to that in the thread for the current episode, since it'd be a bit spoiler-heavy for this thread, given that there's lots of people who aren't caught up in here.

slop101 08-31-12 01:45 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
The main thing I agree with that article about (which is the show's main failing) is that, while very well-acted, the characters have very little depth, certainly not as much as characters from similarly praised shows like Mad Men, Wire, etc.

RichC2 08-31-12 01:52 PM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
I disagree with that, while focused on a single main plotline, I feel like they've fleshed many of the characters out very well -- impressively subtle in some instances. More so than Mad Men imo which strikes me as a little more overt in what you should be thinking, I know most would disagree.

I especially like it with Walt, it's rare where you get a show where a generally good guy starts following a Hollywood notion of what a badass is and cannot properly pull it off while thinking he can, and then have it round back, start crumbling in on itself and (at least I think it's coming) bite him in the ass. I like how much emphasis on tone there is in a lot of the conversations.

That said, all imo. The show is still basically a giant an outlandish look at the meth trade, and it's a fun ride above all else.

Xander 09-04-12 11:00 AM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Just finished season four. WHooo! What a ride!

The scene at the end of the finale with
Spoiler:

Jesse and Walt walking out of the laundry as it exploded was badass! :thumbsup:


Looking forward to starting in on season five tonight. :)

Rob V 09-04-12 11:29 AM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Finished S2 last night... the
Spoiler:
plane crash
was a total cop-out but visually cool. Also, Skyler is a beeeyatch... that is all.

islandclaws 09-06-12 10:58 AM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
I also finished S2 last night.

Agreed on the cop-out. They build that up throughout the season, show us some very intriguing shots, and then... it's the equivalent of a fart in the wind.

Here's what I know:

Walter White is an asshole who makes rash, impulsive, occassionally (frequently?) stupid decisions.

Skyler is a total bitch. Complete and total bitch.

I like Walt, Jr. I like it even more that they cast a kid with his actual condition on the show.

Marie is annoying. And a bitch.

Jessie reminds me of my brother in some ways. Well, how he used to be, at least.

I really like the show, but I'm also feeling like it gets overly praised. Maybe that's because there isn't a lot of GREAT shows on TV, but some of the writing just... bothers me. Like all the stuff with the event at the end of S2 and Jane's dad. Too coincidental, and really nothing more than an elaborate ruse.

bunkaroo 09-06-12 11:16 AM
Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
The best is yet to come. S3 and S4 will show you why it gets the praise it does.


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