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Gizmo 11-14-10 11:26 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 
The time to get the guns was last episode when the crazy Asian was steering them away.

Dave99 11-14-10 11:55 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 

Originally Posted by scorpion (Post 10490886)
Exactly what I thought. Just break into a gun shop and be done with it.

I'd guess most of them have already been looted.

superfro 11-15-10 12:01 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 

Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse (Post 10490888)
This was an hour of soap opera with too little zombie stuff. The weakest episode yet.

:lol:

We got to about the half way point and I said "Well, this will be sure to piss a bunch of people off! Can't wait to hear all the complaints about the lack of zombies and increase in character drama making the show boring."

Thanks for never letting me down. ;)

FWIW, I thought the episode was great, and would again point out that this is probably more of the usual stuff as the show goes along. I also thought the character dialogue was much better written than last episode.


Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10490948)
Man, this show really grinds to a fucking halt when there's no zombie shit going on, doesn't it?

Not in the slightest. But then again, I'm interested in character development and learning about the other folks on the show, and not just looking for non stop zombie attack action. :shrug:

Boba Fett 11-15-10 12:10 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 
Interesting, people hated the first episode not written by Darabont (I believe he did the outline and one or more other writers did the actual script). I had a suspicion once Darabont stepped away from the writing and/or directing, there would be a noticeable dip in quality.

Charlie Goose 11-15-10 12:12 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 
I loved seeing more of the camp this episode. Gives us the chance to know the survivors before some of them get eaten. Not sure how secure tents are though, even in the mountains. They DO have the cans-on-a-string perimeter alarm, no need to get fancy with dumb zombies.

This is the first zombie movie/show I've seen that suggests that zombies will migrate when faced with a lack of food.

All Michael Rooker needed to do was saw off his thumb, then his hand would've slipped through the cuff.

I haven't read the graphic novel, does it mention anything about WHY the zombie infestation started?
Please spoilerize if needed, thanks.

bluetoast 11-15-10 12:17 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 

Originally Posted by Charlie Goose (Post 10491028)

I haven't read the graphic novel, does it mention anything about WHY the zombie infestation started?
Please spoilerize if needed, thanks.

Spoiler:
No, and Kirkman says that there will be no explanation. In one case a character claimed to know, but it was revealed he was lying.

kstublen 11-15-10 12:25 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 

Originally Posted by Charlie Goose (Post 10491028)
All Michael Rooker needed to do was saw off his thumb, then his hand would've slipped through the cuff.

Yeah, that was just ridiculously stupid.

And where did he go exactly? The door was still chained shut and that building looked pretty high up to climb down, unless there was a nearby building he could've jumped too.

slop101 11-15-10 12:29 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 

Originally Posted by superfro (Post 10491014)
Not in the slightest. But then again, I'm interested in character development and learning about the other folks on the show, and not just looking for non stop zombie attack action. :shrug:

I don't mind that stuff, and actually prefer character moments and development over moments of action and suspense, when it's done well, as in shows like Mad Men. But the character stuff on this show is pure ass.

Raul3 11-15-10 12:31 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 
You guys have to accept it, there can't be a show just about zombies, it wouldn't even last 3 episodes. Have you ever watched a (good) zombie movie that lasts more than 2 hours?

superfro 11-15-10 12:32 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10491044)
I don't mind that stuff, and actually prefer character moments and development over moments of action and suspense, when it's done well, as in shows like Mad Men. But the character stuff on this show is pure ass.

Then you should totally keep watching it.


Originally Posted by Boba Fett (Post 10491027)
Interesting, people hated the first episode not written by Darabont (I believe he did the outline and one or more other writers did the actual script). I had a suspicion once Darabont stepped away from the writing and/or directing, there would be a noticeable dip in quality.

The only "dip in quality" is the reduction of action and zombies in exchange for character interaction. I wouldn't pin that on the writing/directing as much as I would on the people watching it and their expectations. IMO of course. :)

fumanstan 11-15-10 01:05 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 

Originally Posted by anomynous (Post 10490820)
I just noticed the redneck dude's brother is from the Boondock Saints.


At least somebody from that movie is doing SOMETHING else

Sean Patrick Flanery (the other brother) was just in the last Saw movie :)

slop101 11-15-10 01:07 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 

Originally Posted by superfro (Post 10491048)
Then you should totally keep watching it.

What are you basing that on, the comic? I've read the first few WD trades and think the comic is poorly-written crap - especially when it comes to character stuff.

Bill Needle 11-15-10 01:19 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 
Was there a reason he couldn't saw through the handcuffs? Or the pipe hanger they were hooked to? No sure why they couldn't set up camp around some hard walled building to sleep inside at night. Or why with the millions of abandoned cars around stealing one seemed to be such a big deal. Or why they couldn't stop anywhere along their drive back to camp to silence the screeching car before driving it right into where they live. And so on.

I like the show and all, but this episode was an example of the problem that seemingly all zombie theater suffers from: When there is no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth...and the living will get really, really stupid.

fumanstan 11-15-10 01:29 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 

Originally Posted by Charlie Goose (Post 10491028)
All Michael Rooker needed to do was saw off his thumb, then his hand would've slipped through the cuff.

Looking at the cuffs, it looked pretty tight around his wrist. It didn't look like just a thumb would be enough.

superfro 11-15-10 01:37 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10491070)
What are you basing that on, the comic? I've read the first few WD trades and think the comic is poorly-written crap - especially when it comes to character stuff.

No..it was sarcasm.

Josh-da-man 11-15-10 01:42 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 

Originally Posted by Charlie Goose (Post 10491028)
All Michael Rooker needed to do was saw off his thumb, then his hand would've slipped through the cuff.

The locks on handcuffs are incredibly simple to pick.

Basically, all you have to do is stick something small enough to fit into the keyhole and wriggle it around until the locking mechanism triggers. You can unlock a handcuff with a bent paperclip as easily and quickly as you can with a key.

Groucho 11-15-10 02:08 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 

Originally Posted by Raul3 (Post 10491047)
Have you ever watched a (good) zombie movie that lasts more than 2 hours?

Dawn of the Dead (1978)

As for this show, it seems that the more rural the accent, the more psychotic the character. :lol:

Dragon Tattoo 11-15-10 02:16 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10491070)
What are you basing that on, the comic? I've read the first few WD trades and think the comic is poorly-written crap - especially when it comes to character stuff.

So keep watching and keep coming to this thread to bitch as loudly as you can every single week.

Navinabob 11-15-10 02:50 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10491070)
What are you basing that on, the comic? I've read the first few WD trades and think the comic is poorly-written crap - especially when it comes to character stuff.

Wait... you read the first 40-50 issues and you think that it is crap? I can name about a dozen issue #1 comics in the last year or so that I didn't care for. Of those I didn't stop after that first issue, I kept with two or three until issue 3 or 4 do to purchasing before reading or creator loyalty before dropping them. Why on earth do people stick with stuff they hate?

That isn't my point even. Kirkman does not write the episodes. Outside of the first episode being pretty true on plot-points, the rest of the show appears to be pretty different. The last two episodes only shared about 15% with the comic book in plot points and almost nothing with dialog. So how does Kirkman's writing the comics makes the writers for this show also suck?

The writing credits go to the writers of The Shield, Dexter and Sons of Anarchy (bulk-wise). I'm assuming you loved those shows and decided to give this one episode a shot right? Maybe you have to share a TV and they made you watch it (and I suppose read about 1,200 pages of poorly written crap)? Anything else is just far too embarrassing.

Panda Phil 11-15-10 04:41 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 
Heres a salute to all the people who've hung around for three episodes of a program they hate. Nice of you folks to make the sacrifice just so you can let us know the show sucks. -rolleyes-
I'm with Superfro. I knew when this episode was over people would be bitching about the lack of exploding heads. *eyeroll* Some folks should just just stick to playing Left 4 Dead.

I found it kind of interesting how everyone seems to have eased back into a tribal existance so easily, with everyone quickly slipping into their 'roles'.
Though sometime soon I suspect theres going to be a power struggle to be dealt with.

And honestly, I can't see much good in having the wifebeater and the redneck brothers around. Theres definately gonna be trouble.

As for the whole 'raid a gunshop' thing, yeah, you know they and the grocery stores were the first things to get cleaned out.
I was about to bring up that everyone else has seen those movies and headed for the gun stores and the malls. Then I rememebred they don't have zombie movies in this universe. :)

DJariya 11-15-10 05:01 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 
After 2 weeks of carnage and mayhem, I thought this episode was okay and was fine with it being more of a character driven episode. They have to produce 13 hours of TV next season, so not every episode needs to be full of blood and gore. This season is so short already and I think they needed at least 1 hour to have the viewers get to know some of these people before the shit hits the fan.

I do think it's funny that they go from Michael Rooker's Merle being a by the numbers cliched white trash racist to Ed and Carol, another by the numbers white trash couple in an abusive relationship. :lol: I did enjoy Shane's beatdown on Ed though.

Since there is only 3 episodes left, it's probably unlikely they will bring back Lennie James character Morgan, but IMO they need him back in season 2 as a fulltime regular.

grrr 11-15-10 05:15 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 
Massive improvement over the second episode and easily the best of the series so far. Who could've guessed that these faceless characters actually have personalities? DeMunn is stealing the show so far.
Spoiler:
I'm glad he'll be around a while.


And yeah, I'm pretty sure they're going to stay close to the comics regarding the end-of-the-season developments. There's no other way for the writers to play it without veering way off the outline established by the comics. That and it's a significant dramatic cop out.

Larry C. 11-15-10 07:38 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 
Is the first season based on this volume?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

parker63 11-15-10 08:08 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 
At the pace that things are moving along at, and with only six episodes in this "first season" I would guess the first season is restricted to "Volume One" of the comic series, not "Book One" which is a compilation. Who knows what might be changed or skipped over though.

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2...ngdeadvol1.jpg

Fist of Doom 11-15-10 08:16 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Tell it to the Frogs" -- 11/14/10
 
It started pretty slow, but it was good to get a "breather" episode and get to know the characters better. Loved seeing Shane beat the shit out of that wifebeating asshole. Rick's reunion with his son was well done.

One thing that bugged was Glenn driving the car up to the campsite with the alarm blaring. That was out of character for a guy they've shown to be one of the smarter of the bunch.

I'm not familiar with the actor who played Merle's brother, but he did a great job. I've run across guys just like that in my life.


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