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DJariya 11-09-10 03:41 AM

Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
<img src="http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3336/gleeseason2.jpg" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/><br/>By <a target="_new" href="http://profile.imageshack.us/user/djariya">djariya</a> at 2010-10-15

Synopsis:

Spoiler:
After Finn and Sam find an unconventional way of controlling their urges, a few glee club members pick up on the strategy and start using it too. But when Coach Beiste gets wind of what they are up to, the glee club has some explaining to do.


Episode 6 of 22

Reported Song List:

Spoiler:
"Stop! In the Name of Love / Free Your Mind" (The Supremes / En Vogue) - The Glee Guys
"Start Me Up / Livin' on a Prayer" (Rolling Stones / Bon Jovi)- The Glee Girls
"One Love (People Get Ready)" (Bob Marley) - Puck and Artie
"Teenage Dream" (Katy Perry) - Dalton Academy Warblers


I'm going to be out of town on business for the next 4 days, so I probably will not be able to watch any of these until I get back. So enjoy!!

kstublen 11-09-10 08:26 AM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
The promos for tonight make this look like Glee's "very special episode."

Rypro 525 11-09-10 07:07 PM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
I wonder if this epsiode ends up getting shit from that "parents" groups

kstublen 11-09-10 07:11 PM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
Puck calling Artie Professor X and Sue referring to Bieste as She-Hulk had me :lol:

That and Brittany saying she once threw the baby out with the bathwater.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 10482429)
I wonder if this epsiode ends up getting shit from that "parents" groups

For what reason?

kstublen 11-09-10 07:19 PM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
:lol: Kurt and that guy running hand in hand through the hallway in slow motion was ridiculous.

But man, that cover of Teenage Dream was amazing. This is when Glee is at its finest: when they put a completely original spin on a song. Very well done. That guy has such a great voice.

kstublen 11-09-10 07:42 PM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
The jock beats up the gay kid because he's actually gay too! Yeah, that's real original Glee. *yawn*

FantasticVSDoom 11-09-10 09:47 PM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
Hell Id take the whole boys choir gang banging each other over that Beiste-Will kiss again... Enjoyed all the songs this episode though.

kstublen 11-09-10 09:47 PM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
Heat's wife probably would have a heart attack if she saw this episode, lol.

Draven 11-09-10 10:13 PM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kstublen (Post 10482476)
The jock beats up the gay kid because he's actually gay too! Yeah, that's real original Glee. *yawn*

Sure. Cause that's never happened in real life.

What's the alternative? The guy learns a very special lesson? That's the shit that's not realistic.

Great episode, as always. Loved the songs, loved the message, everyone had great moments.

wmansir 11-09-10 10:31 PM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
A meh episode for me. The a capella song was good, the girls mashup was OK, Puck and Artie's number was forgettable and the boys mashup was just bad.

All three story lines had varying degrees of after school special to them. Kurt's was obviously the worst offender and with the bonus cliche of the closeted gay basher. And Beast's story literally had Will acting as the thought police. Puck and Artie didn't get their after school on until the final scene with Artie offering to tutor him and stuff seemed to come out of nowhere. Puck's "nobody cares about me" spaz seemed just as random.

Giantrobo 11-09-10 10:33 PM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
I LOVED Puck taking Artie in to get the Cheerleaders. He totally played Jedi Mind tricks on them by being an ASSHOLE. :lol:


What was Santana's line about putting out for the football team? :drool:

kstublen 11-09-10 10:46 PM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 10482684)
Sure. Cause that's never happened in real life.

What's the alternative? The guy learns a very special lesson? That's the shit that's not realistic.

The way they handled it was typical, cliche television fare. I know I've seen this in some form or another in at least three or four other television shows and probably a few movies as well. Not saying it doesn't happen in real life, but that doesn't make it any less cliche. I'm sure some people learn lessons like tolerance in real life, but that still makes for some potentially lame television.

Why not just have the jock be straight and be intolerant? Then have Kurt stand up for himself and fight back. Even if the jock doesn't learn a lesson of tolerance, he might at least begrudgingly respect Kurt for sticking up for himself. As a bully he might be less likely to pick on someone that isn't easy prey.

Or, here's an idea...just do something different for a change. Why not have Kurt see everyone else in a relationship or going on dates (Rachel/Finn, Quinn/Sam, Brittany/Artie, Santana/Puck, Tina/Mike) and him long to meet someone? Then have him go spy on the guy's school and go from there; would that have been so hard?

But that's all beside the point. Haven't we already addressed people picking on Kurt for being gay in several episodes? Haven't we even seen him stick up for himself and even Finn stick up for him to the football players? This just felt like a cheap way to impress some of the show's constituents given the recent public cases of gays being bullied and committing suicide, especially the way they promoted the episode.

Giantrobo 11-09-10 10:52 PM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
Wow, once again Glee is jumping the shark.:lol:

I am NOT looking forward to
Spoiler:
That ****y Paltrow next week.
:down:


But I AM looking forward to
Spoiler:
the return of Will's Ex Wife!

silentbob007 11-10-10 07:55 AM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
My biggest problem ... Kurt's big confrontation with the jock when he mocks the jock's fears ... only didn't Kurt actually do that last season with Finn?

rfduncan 11-10-10 08:01 AM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kstublen (Post 10482723)
Why not just have the jock be straight and be intolerant? Then have Kurt stand up for himself and fight back.

And THAT'S not cliche? Seriously?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstublen (Post 10482723)
But that's all beside the point. Haven't we already addressed people picking on Kurt for being gay in several episodes? Haven't we even seen him stick up for himself and even Finn stick up for him to the football players? This just felt like a cheap way to impress some of the show's constituents given the recent public cases of gays being bullied and committing suicide, especially the way they promoted the episode.

Um, crap like this doesn't get resolved in a few episodes. High school kids are assholes. Kurt getting picked on for his entire high school experience would be realistic.

Seriously, if you have problems with this sort of stuff (and I'm really NOT seeing any point in your arguments), you should just stop watching TV completely, dude, because nothing is going to satisfy you.

Besides, it's f-ing Glee. Like any of the production numbers in this episode alone were "believable" with the fantastic orchestration, musicians, lighting and choreography all for the sake of a single in-class "project" assignment. :rolleyes:

Pointyskull 11-10-10 08:16 AM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
Kind of sub-average and stilted, even for Glee, but the songs were all good, especially Teenage Dream.
And I'll NEVER complain when the girls are in black leather... :drool:


Did it seem like the writers "re-invented" Puck as an exaggerated bad ass? I know he came into the show as the tough guy/outsider, but the character never seemed as one-note cliche as it did last night.

Giles 11-10-10 08:48 AM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kstublen (Post 10482476)
The jock beats up the gay kid because he's actually gay too! Yeah, that's real original Glee. *yawn*

yeah but the awkward kiss was hot. I liked how he moved in again towards Kurt for a second kiss but was pushed away.

JSwarce 11-10-10 09:01 AM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 12thmonkey (Post 10482979)
Kind of sub-average and stilted, even for Glee, but the songs were all good, especially Teenage Dream.
And I'll NEVER complain when the girls are in black leather... :drool:


Did it seem like the writers "re-invented" Puck as an exaggerated bad ass? I know he came into the show as the tough guy/outsider, but the character never seemed as one-note cliche as it did last night.

+1 on the black leather outfits! Rachel only had one line? When has that happened?

I agree...Puck came across as really arrogant in this episode, more so than in any other episode so far.

I laughed at the Artie/Puck song in the courtyard. Supposed to be just them, then all of a sudden, there are guys playing STEEL DRUMS! How many high school kids have those in their lockers? Then a pan of the courtyard and you see a full drum set being played along with another electric guitarist and bass player! C'mon....seriously?

The song sung in the boys school was well done, especially the sound mix.

--John

Giles 11-10-10 09:05 AM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JSwarce (Post 10483054)
+1 on the black leather outfits! Rachel only had one line? When has that happened?

I agree...Puck came across as really arrogant in this episode, more so than in any other episode so far.

I laughed at the Artie/Puck song in the courtyard. Supposed to be just them, then all of a sudden, there are guys playing STEEL DRUMS! How many high school kids have those in their lockers? Then a pan of the courtyard and you see a full drum set being played along with another electric guitarist and bass player! C'mon....seriously?

The song sung in the boys school was well done, especially the sound mix.

--John

I was also noting how racial diverse the 'boys' were.

Gizmo 11-10-10 09:15 AM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wmansir (Post 10482709)
A meh episode for me. The a capella song was good, the girls mashup was OK, Puck and Artie's number was forgettable and the boys mashup was just bad.

All three story lines had varying degrees of after school special to them. Kurt's was obviously the worst offender and with the bonus cliche of the closeted gay basher. And Beast's story literally had Will acting as the thought police. Puck and Artie didn't get their after school on until the final scene with Artie offering to tutor him and stuff seemed to come out of nowhere. Puck's "nobody cares about me" spaz seemed just as random.

Couldn't agree more.

Will was made at what boys thought? WTF?
Puck going nuts in the Principal's office was hilarious. "I DONT WANT TO GO BACK!!!111!! ONE!!11". Haha

Episode needed more Brittney.

wmansir 11-10-10 09:34 AM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
Speaking of Kurt's story having a retread feel, did anyone else get a deja vu, WTF moment, when Quinn was back in Sue's office scheming to keep her man/destroy sue's enemy?

I also thought it was funny that Will was hypersenstive about what the Glee kids thought about Beast, while he was only mildly concerned that Kurt wasn't brushing off the routine physical assaults like he normally does.

Draven 11-10-10 09:39 AM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 12thmonkey (Post 10482979)
Did it seem like the writers "re-invented" Puck as an exaggerated bad ass? I know he came into the show as the tough guy/outsider, but the character never seemed as one-note cliche as it did last night.

It was the first time he'd been in juvie, and he came out "tough" but secretly freaked out. I think he had an interesting arc in this episode, and they didn't just dismiss the severity of what happened to him.

I also want to reiterate that I'm glad the jock didn't let up on Kirk, despite what happened. That's a far more likely outcome in the "real world".

And I just thought the steel drums were hilarious :lol: Again, as crazy as having Artie on the football team. That's how things go in Glee's world.

kstublen 11-10-10 10:13 AM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rfduncan (Post 10482955)
And THAT'S not cliche? Seriously?

Having someone stay intolerant isn't really all that cliched. People always learn lessons or change in shows, but that isn't the case in real life. I was just offering some different alternatives they could have gone with, but really, I think this was a mismanaged and poorly executed episode and they should have gone a much different way with it. It seemed like a grab for some social relevance at the sake of coherent storytelling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfduncan (Post 10482955)
Um, crap like this doesn't get resolved in a few episodes. High school kids are assholes. Kurt getting picked on for his entire high school experience would be realistic.

I would tend to agree with most of this, but that isn't what they did in this episode. They went the cliched route of the closeted jock. As I said before, why not just have it be realistic and have Kurt continue to be bullied but find solace that he wasn't alone when he meets this new guy from the other school's glee club?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfduncan (Post 10482955)
Seriously, if you have problems with this sort of stuff (and I'm really NOT seeing any point in your arguments), you should just stop watching TV completely, dude, because nothing is going to satisfy you.

You don't see my point? Then clearly this must be the first television show you've ever watched in your entire life. This episode wreaked of television cliches. What's so hard to understand about that? Our "hero" is bullied or targeted for some trait; the bully or aggressor also has that trait. That's been used to death in television, made-for-TV movies, and theatrical films. My point, is that the writers of Glee are pandering, and they are doing it in a very lazy way. I have a problem with poor storytelling and lazy writing; that doesn't mean "I should just stop watching TV completely" or that "nothing is going to satisfy me" because there are plenty of shows that don't resort to such things. If you're content with Glee's after-school special writing staff, then by all means enjoy, but as a fan of the show, why am I not allowed to provide comments critical of the show? Or should I just call everything they do brilliant and inspired, even if it doesn't warrant such praise?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfduncan (Post 10482955)
Besides, it's f-ing Glee. Like any of the production numbers in this episode alone were "believable" with the fantastic orchestration, musicians, lighting and choreography all for the sake of a single in-class "project" assignment. :rolleyes:

This has been discussed ad nauseam in other Glee threads, but just in case you missed it I'll explain the difference. This is a musical. I have to suspend disbelief with regarding to production values, choreography, and singing to enjoy the show. Just because that part of the show is unrealistic doesn't mean the characters and plots have to be as unrealistic or that I have to accept them when they are that unrealistic. I've been watching Glee from the start and there is a big difference (when it comes to storytelling and character development) between the first 13 episodes of Glee and everything that has come after. I can expect realistic character development while not expecting realistic musical numbers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 10483106)
And I just thought the steel drums were hilarious :lol: Again, as crazy as having Artie on the football team. That's how things go in Glee's world.

Ugh, not this again, lol.

Groucho 11-10-10 10:26 AM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
I also had a huge laugh about the fact that two random guys were carrying around steel drums for some reason.

Dr. DVD 11-10-10 11:14 AM

Re: Glee -- "Never Been Kissed" -- 11/09/10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 12thmonkey (Post 10482979)
Kind of sub-average and stilted, even for Glee, but the songs were all good, especially Teenage Dream.
And I'll NEVER complain when the girls are in black leather... :drool:



My power failed about halfway through the show and lost that number. :( Is it anywhere on youtube perchance?


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