Originally Posted by van der graaf (Post 10286025)

Wow. When you have this guy calling you ignorant you must be pretty slow. But, yes, you are pretty clueless about South Park. Please tell us how they promote "rightist" or "conservative" views on issues of sexuality, gender, race, etc. If anything, the SP episodes on such matters for the most part fall into a perspective that is often attributed to the "leftist" or "liberal" camp.

Originally Posted by rocketsauce (Post 10286040)

What exactly is that supposed to mean? Don't air out whatever idiotic problem you have with me in an unrelated thread internet tough guy.

Originally Posted by TheBigDave (Post 10285569)

Maybe it's just me, but I feel that South park is the only show that is truly an "equal opportunity offender". Every other comedy show seems to have an ideological bent. South Park doesn't play favorites.

But even if South Park "favors the right side of the isle", then so what? God forbid there should be one freaking comedy show on TV that doesn't pander to the Loony Left Moonbat Brigade.

Originally Posted by Navinabob (Post 10286036)

No wonder you hate they show... you are cut from the same mold as most of the people they go after. You are like Mel Gibson without money, charm, talent or success. Congrats buddy!

Originally Posted by PatD (Post 10286409)

Even if that were true, that would still put me light years ahead of you and your ilk. Continue swigging that Mr. Hankey-flavored Kool-aid, pal. Uncles Trey and Matt say that drinking enough will make you hipper and untouchable from criticism--just like them! Maybe you can make a big 'ol pitcher just in time for a Penn and Teller "Bullshit!" marathon--maybe even with the new episodes where P & T defend child sex trafficking or proving that The Holocaust was a hoax.

In fact you should all alert the two Fuhrers, and alert them that some malcontented internet loudmouth (with admittedly too much time on his hands) hopes that they'll develop cancer. Maybe they can re-negotiate their contract with Satan to prevent such a calamity from coming to pass!

Hurry!

Hurry!

Originally Posted by van der graaf (Post 10286427)

Originally Posted by PatD (Post 10285473)

Oh, and in the unlikely event that Trey Parker and Matt Stone are reading this: would you two gentlemen PLEASE consider developing *and* dying from pancreatic cancer for the sake of your betters, otherwise known as the rest of humanity. Thank you for your time.

Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 10286442)

Clearly you are better than the rest of us. I was unaware that wishing painful death upon people we disagree with was the enlightened thing to do.

Originally Posted by PatD (Post 10286492)

Well clearly I am and clearly it is. Welcome to the 21st century.

And if I had made the same open-letter TONGUE-IN-F***ING-CHEEK request to Seth MacFarlane, no one on this board would be doing their collective Oscar-nominated performances of a N.O.W. convention being held next to the Vatican, with all of the aforementioned feminists being on their period at the same time. (Dennis Miller, eat your black heart out!)

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10286521)

What the fuck is going on in here?

Originally Posted by PatD (Post 10286492)

Well clearly I am and clearly it is. Welcome to the 21st century.

And if I had made the same open-letter TONGUE-IN-F***ING-CHEEK request to Seth MacFarlane, no one on this board would be doing their collective Oscar-nominated performances of a N.O.W. convention being held next to the Vatican, with all of the aforementioned feminists being on their period at the same time. (Dennis Miller, eat your black heart out!)

Originally Posted by Navinabob (Post 10285559)

Wow...

1. Take a current events topic, (unless it's too complex for the audience, then just take on a current fad). Hmm... make a show actually be relevant to topics currently happening? What a crappy idea.

2. Take a popular element of contemporary popular culture and skewer them/it beyond what a decent person would do (unless it's in an episode condemning said practice, then just lace it with IRONY---a 90's humorist's best friend). You do know that's called comedy right? You have seen stand-up before? Ah... decent. That's the clue. Perhaps the better question is "What would Jesus animate?

3. Mix in a heaping helping of Libertarian Hipster Posturing [TM] that pretty much favors the right side of the isle, but is able to deflect criticism from much of the gullible left a.k.a. college students. While they are not as libertarian as Penn & Teller, they still tread much lighter politically then lets say a "fair and balanced" FOX news network. And who said they can't toss in their own thoughts on society? They are not news; they produce a cartoon! Plus, I love how you toss in being college educated makes you "gullible" as opposed to smarter and more successful.

4. Slam hippies and environmentalists at least once every 5 minutes--since they obviously run the whole world and it's nothing's funnier than taking down "The Man". The person slamming hippies is and environmentalists is Cartman; a character who is portrayed as an ignorant buffoon. What person would identify themselves through his ranting? And people like Richard Dawkins is a personal hero to them and they had no trouble making fun of him for an entire season. Wait... unless reverse phycology is also part of their master plan!!!

5. Add in one tongue-in-cheek lesson learned about how we should all meet half-way if we're to get along--that is, if it favors Trey and Matt's ever-changing-at-their-whim agenda. If you don;t agree, don't watch. I love the fact that they lampoon Scientology, child molesting priests and John Edwards; they deserve any and all criticism they get. Unless you of course approve those things? Makes no sense.

6. Fill it with enough self righteous finger wagging jism to fill the Grand Canyon (hey, screw you hippies!) as Trey and Matt once again spoon feed the audience What They Feel Superior To This Week [TM]. What's with the "TM" stuff? You gonna make this a syndicated column? They have no duty to show both sides of a story, nor is there a duty to be kind to ideas or people that are inherently wrong or stupid. “Ridicule is the only weapon that can be used against unintelligible propositions.” -- Thomas Jefferson

7. And finally develop one to two
ACTUAL jokes (if you have enough for the whole season) and repeat them indefinitely from after the opening sequence until the credits roll. I like my humor based cartoons to have jokes in them... often repetition is a valuable tool in comedy writing. While their style may not be everyone's cup of tea, I'd think them being still relatively strong after a decade of them being on the air sorta make's one think that a lot of people find them funny.

[NOTE: Please don't tell anyone that I broke into "South Park" Studios, stole, and posted this top secret inside info! I don't want to be another statistic like Isaac Hayes!] No worries there. I don't think many people will find these insights the product of any insider knowledge

Further note: that I wrote this for all those who have heard the clarion call to slam "South Park" for the good of humankind, so...feel free to circulate the above. Yeah, I'm sure they'll be riots in your name

Oh, and in the unlikely event that Trey Parker and Matt Stone are reading this: would you two gentlemen PLEASE consider developing *and* dying from pancreatic cancer for the sake of your betters, otherwise known as the rest of humanity. Thank you for your time. Wow... mighty decent of you to say that. I'm sure those who have lost loved ones to that hideous form of cancer think it is pretty cool of you to toss that around. Anyone else get that this might be a thinly veiled "red state versus blue state" [TM] sorta thing with you? What's the deal with multiple replies about how much you hate this show on other threads? Is someone forcing you to keep watching it?

Originally Posted by Navinabob (Post 10286036)

Yes, but the point you are missing is the fact that they are a comedy show meant to entertain and sell commercials. You, on the other hand are here just to bitch and moan. And please don't say crap like "I've said nothing worse then they have argument" because that too is ridiculous for two giant reasons. One, you chided them on not being decent and following some sort of moral code you have. As far as I can tell this code consists entirely of spite, ignorance, vileness and hypocrisy. Yaay you! Two, everything you are going off on comes from the mouths of characters, not the people!!! You are not quoting an article you read or an interview they gave... just what characters are saying. They are fictional! That's like saying the creator of the Soporanos is pro-crime and anti-establishment because Tony was a mobster.

Even your catch-22 argument holds no water because you have been going off on them for years. It's not like you gave them an episode of two... you continue to watch like a mad man. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Oh wait... unless you only kept watching as a form of public service? Like your vigilance was needed to protect us?

It is either that or you have been planning this call-to-arms speech for the last five years (You actually asked people to circulate this drivel!!!!) and you wanted to make sure that when you did the creators of Southpark didn't lambaste you for criticizing what you didn't watch.

Originally Posted by van der graaf (Post 10286527)

Says the guy with this "...try to piss me off and urinate on my day" as his sig rotfl

Originally Posted by PatD (Post 10285935)

It should be clear that there's been nothing and I mean NOTHING that I've said in this thread that has been any more absurd, immature, and cruel than the less-than-dynamic duo have said--and you all know it.

Originally Posted by PatD (Post 10286409)

Even if that were true, that would still put me light years ahead of you and your ilk. Continue swigging that Mr. Hankey-flavored Kool-aid, pal. Uncles Trey and Matt say that drinking enough will make you hipper and untouchable from criticism--just like them! Maybe you can make a big 'ol pitcher just in time for a Penn and Teller "Bullshit!" marathon--maybe even with the new episodes where P & T defend child sex trafficking or proving that The Holocaust was a hoax.

In fact you should all alert the two Fuhrers, and alert them that some malcontented internet loudmouth (with admittedly too much time on his hands) hopes that they'll develop cancer. Maybe they can re-negotiate their contract with Satan to prevent such a calamity from coming to pass!

Hurry!

Hurry!

Originally Posted by PatD (Post 10285579)

And where did I say that you can't watch "South Park"? I'm not petitioning for it's cancellation.

Originally Posted by PatD (Post 10285935)

It should be clear that there's been nothing and I mean NOTHING that I've said in this thread that has been any more absurd, immature, and cruel than the less-than-dynamic duo have said--and you all know it.

Originally Posted by PatD (Post 10286409)

Maybe they can re-negotiate their contract with Satan to prevent such a calamity from coming to pass!

Originally Posted by PatD (Post 10286409)

Even if that were true, that would still put me light years ahead of you and your ilk. Continue swigging that Mr. Hankey-flavored Kool-aid, pal. Uncles Trey and Matt say that drinking enough will make you hipper and untouchable from criticism--just like them! Maybe you can make a big 'ol pitcher just in time for a Penn and Teller "Bullshit!" marathon--maybe even with the new episodes where P & T defend child sex trafficking or proving that The Holocaust was a hoax.

In fact you should all alert the two Fuhrers, and alert them that some malcontented internet loudmouth (with admittedly too much time on his hands) hopes that they'll develop cancer. Maybe they can re-negotiate their contract with Satan to prevent such a calamity from coming to pass!

Hurry!

Hurry!

Originally Posted by Mazje (Post 10286693)

Here's the real problem...there's no real room to grow with this as a trolling concept. Colorization of movies, all good movies needing to be 2 hours and rated R, how all American-made movies are dumb and glorify torture-porn...those are good trolling concepts. You can take them, and troll throughout several other threads. Really make it grow...make it into something big and memorable.

But this? One thread and you're done. I mean, maybe keep it up in future South Park threads (or, hey, bump some old ones, as seems to be the trend), and maybe you can squeeze a little bit more life out of the gimmick. But really, I see this as a really limited concept.

Better luck next time!

Originally Posted by PatD (Post 10286824)

Do you *bleep*-ing know how far off The Irony Def Con Alert Chart you are? We are in frigging M.C. Escher/Charlie Kaufman territory here. The only way this can get more surreal is for Rod Serling to step out in front of this screen and narrate.

Fine. I relent. Criticizing "South Park" here (even when listing specific reasons instead of just saying "it sucks") is not just trolling, boys and girls, it's akin to organizing a mob to pelt rotten vegetables at 9/11 survivors, widows, and rescue workers. So, I humbly beg your forgiveness at any insights I may have revealed against your sacred cartoon.

Originally Posted by PatD (Post 10286824)

So, you mean that you object to me taking a limited concept and running it in to the ground for no other reason but to stir things up?

Do you *bleep*-ing know how far off The Irony Def Con Alert Chart you are? We are in frigging M.C. Escher/Charlie Kaufman territory here. The only way this can get more surreal is for Rod Serling to step out in front of this screen and narrate.

Fine. I relent. Criticizing "South Park" here (even when listing specific reasons instead of just saying "it sucks") is not just trolling, boys and girls, it's akin to organizing a mob to pelt rotten vegetables at 9/11 survivors, widows, and rescue workers. So, I humbly beg your forgiveness at any insights I may have revealed against your sacred cartoon.

For future reference: could I be provided with a list of TV shows that *is* acceptable to voice a negative opinion on? I don't want to provoke the throng...er, group of detractors who would smear the messenger, rather than intelligently challenge the message.*



*However, there were a few people who did indeed intelligently debate the main issue rather than taking the typical road of acting like the average "South Park" fan. So, I salute you.