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I gander Brenden is popular with a certain segment of female fans and males who hate female contestants and are usually borderline misogynist . The same people who loved Mike Boogie,Dick and Crazy James must have thought Brendens tirades toward Britney and Ragan were hilarious and well deserved.

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You forgot racist and homophobic. They probably drive SUVs and wear fur too.

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Huh?

Britney and Ragan ARE this season's iteration of Boogie, Dick, and James. Just because they have little girl bodies and couldn't intimidate a mouse doesn't mean they aren't douches too.

Just the Tip, anyone? Oh, poor little Britney and Ragan. They are such victims.:lol:

Making anyone in that house out to be some sort of victim to justify rooting for them, or rooting against someone else, is so ridiculous. They are all jerk-offs, particularly Ragan and Bitchney. That's what makes it so great when one of them gets hosed like Ragan apparently did. They all deserve getting crapped on in some way. It's especially enjoyable in Ragan's case since he whines and cries like nobody I have ever seen in there.

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Then you've not seen a lot of Big Brother.

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Okay, maybe he doesn't cry as much as Bunky.:)

No, he's worse than Bunky. He's worse than Jessie's entire harem last year, too. And Amber.

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Britney and Ragan may be catty and talk behind peoples back but I would not compare that behaivor to Crazy James and Dick physically trying to intimidate other contestants or some of the stuff Boogie said about Erika in confessionals that was mysogonist no matter how humorously that storyline was played out.

I will be the first one to say good riddance when Ragan leaves the house it still doesn not excuse Brendans behaivor or a certain subset of fans always cheering for bullies because they are "underdogs".

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On whining, Ragan is no where near the level of Danielle Donato (this sucks...I hate it here...I hate this people....you don't understand...wah).

He's also no where near Natalie, Chima, and Lydia last year who bitched and moaned and hijacked the show so much that the DR gave them stuff to shut them up on multiple occasions. Ragan may not handle adversity particularly well, but I prefer his way (isolation) to their way. Honestly, I don't think Ragan's all that bad. If we're not allowed to root for people b/c they talk badly about their fellow houseguests then there is no one left to root for.

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Except Evel Dick knew what he was doing and it was strategic to disorient the other players in competitions and such. Brendon honestly believes he's a role model and exemplary human being.

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You're right. I can't believe I forgot about Daniele. Although, she didn't cry as much as Ragan does, so he still beats her out for the overall title. She was also bitchier and more entitled than Britney (and the game was rigged for her to make final two!).

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NEVER assume anything on this show just from what CBS shows.

Yeah when you watch everything else (Showtime 2 and the internet), you get a much better sense of who these people are and not the stuff just being picked to show in prime time.

Britney is definitely a bitch, as is Ragan. They can't even now (as I listen to AD in the background) stop slamming Brenchel constantly. There are no longer any redeeming characters in the house. For the most part, Brendon and Kathy and MAYBE Annie (too busy being a saboteur to know for sure) were really the only ones.

I can't even put Rachel there, not because she wasn't a good person, but her lack of redeeming qualities was based around her gameplay far more then her personality so you just can't put the two of them together and get one cohesive answer.

Britney though, in the end, is the person who I'd least be angry with who wins the whole thing just because she was a very active/competitive player.

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But there is also that fact that it's really all they know. It's a prison mentality. Brendan/Rachel being dicks in the house is really the biggest thing they have in common. Of course it's going to keep coming up.

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When did you enter my brain and steal my thoughts? GO AWAY!!! :p

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So, after finishing my "North By Northwest" Blu-ray (terrific movie BTW), I watched the Ragan-Britney conversation on "After Dark" (DVR) and I found myself surprised that I liked this logical and suddenly concerned Britney that I've never seen before. When they're not obsessing over Brendon and Rachel Ragan and Britney actually sound like contestants I would have rooted for. Brit knows she's all alone and likely to be gone the following week if she doesn't win HOH or POV. It's a super long shot (99% impossibility) for Lane to vote out Hayden in a tie over Ragan, but damn if it wouldn't make Thursday's elimination vote a stunner if Hayden (who earlier volunteered to be put on the block) were kicked off the house and the brigade by Lane for a Final 3 deal that would keep Enzo at bay. Lane, after all, knows that Hayden won $5K and a vacation (the perfect excuse to boot out a HG). Guess I'm fishing for drama now that's very little of it left outside of who wins HOH or POV over the next couple of weeks. :(

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That convo was ultimately pointless though. Ragan was too scared to ask Brit to talk to Lane for him and Brit has zero interest in changing her path, as doomed as she knows it is, and wasn't going to offer to speak to him either. She ultimately just turned everything into what her struggles were going to be with Ragan gone and how she has to win. Basically negating everything Ragan was throwing out about them teaming up with Lane. :rolleyes:

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I agree. I think this would be Lane's best move--to get rid of Hayden during the one shot he can. Doubt he will, and I haven't been watching the live feeds, but that would be a gutsy game-changer.

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For those that don't know (lot of pre-emptions for the "BB" CBS show this evening because of pre-season football) Hayden won HOH! :(

OK, help me out because I've been semi-out of the loop for a couple of weeks. Is HAYDEN more interested in having Lane or Enzo in F2? I assume since Lane nominated Hayden instead of Britney for eviction against Matt both Lane and Brit will be the nominees. I just want to gauge what happens when/if Britney or Lane takes him/herself off the block and Enzo takes that person's place. Basically who does Hayden feel more comfortable with on F2 against Britney if she squeezes herself off the pickle she's in. Lane is in a lot of trouble, just as Ragan predicted early this week when he and Britney were talking about trying to make Lane choose to keep Ragan over Hayden in a tie that didn't happen.

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Britney. Who happens to have a GREAT ASS.

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Hayden has no power as HOH, so it really doesn't matter. The only thing that matters this week is the POV. If Hayden or Enzo win the veto, Britney is going home. If Britney or Lane win the veto, Enzo is going home.

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My bad, I meant who does HAYDEN want in F2 (via a F3 showdown).
You sure? Lane is very quiet and doesn't share a lot of what's going on in his head. Maybe he's buying the whole 'Brigade Final 3' spiel and he could vote Britney off. You know, bros before hoes. :rolleyes:

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True about Lane. Even if he is thinking about betraying the Brigade he can't talk to Brittany about it because she doesn't know about the Brigade, and he can't tell the Brigade of course. So he could be in an alliance with Brittany against an alliance she doesn't know about, so there is no opportunity for him to say anything out loud to anyone.

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Did you watch tonight's show? He said he wants him and Britney as the final two. Plus with a H/B/L final 3, he is guaranteed a final two spot.

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Couldn't, NFL pre-emption in my local market (NYC).

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I just wonder if L has the stones to take Enzo out personally. That would be a totally different dynamic than last year because I could totally see Enzo giving his vote B out of spite. Hayden would know L wanted him gone too. If L can explain why he wanted to sit next to B over H, I could see H still voting for Lane. I'd be shocked if personal feelings would override anything else, so he'd get Brendon and Rachel and almost certainly Matt. That would be enough and why he should do it.

But it's one thing if Britney wins POV, but if Lane does he then has to take himself off and vote out Enzo. I'm still 50/50 on whether he'd do that or roll the dice of not betraying the remaining Brigade and going against Enzo, should Lane or Enzo win final HOH, that would be what would happen, because neither thinks they can beat Hayden.

Well, if the morph is POV, Britney certainly would be the favorite to win. But I got lucky last year, so I'm expecting Britney's hot body to leave next week.

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It almost has to be the morph. They did OTEV last week, and they can save place stuff in order for part 2 of the final HOH.

If it is the morph, I think only Britney and Hayden can win. Enzo...don't make me laugh (watch him win now).

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Or they could just come up with a new competition...I know, crazy idea. I don't know why they do the same stupid fucking games year after year. I thought the show's tagline was expect the unexpected?