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Red Dog 06-02-10 08:13 AM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 

Originally Posted by sb5 (Post 10189401)
Unless every copy of seasons 3 through 8 on Earth are erased, it's legacy will never be completely destroyed.

I agree.

resinrats 06-02-10 08:17 AM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
I don't think there has EVER been a Simpsons episode I haven't laughed at. Most of the time, I laugh several times. There hasn't been any other TV series that has been able to do that.

Considering it still gets decent ratings after 21 years, its pretty obvious that many people still like the show, no matter how much intenet posters whine about it. Its Legacy is secure.

notkevinbacon 06-02-10 08:19 AM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
The show is too important and too influential to ever truly be irrelevant or destroy it's legacy.

Sure it's my favorite show, but I'm the first to admit there are some dark years and terrible episodes. Recently, I've caught up on seasons 20 and 21... quite frankly, I agree... it's the best the show has been in a long time. Really good, even. I think there were like 3 "Moe-centric" episodes last year... it feels like they are going back to some of the things that made the show so great in those early seasons.

cleaver 06-02-10 08:29 AM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
It's not as good as it was in it's prime but nothing is as good as Simpsons was in it's prime. It's still watchable, I mean Family Guy to me got stale after 4 or 5 seasons.

mmconhea 06-02-10 09:36 AM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
All the people that continue to loathe seasons past 8-9 are always the first to quote from said seasons.

Evidence that even the shittiest of Simpsons episodes have been ingrained in pop-culture, thus making them epic.

Stop with the Simpsons hate. It's tired.

Flipper 06-02-10 09:42 AM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
There should be a support group for people who have grown older and wiser and have slipped out of their once-favorite-show's target demographic. The first cry for help would be posting your first "The Simpsons/Family Guy/SNL isn't as funny as it used to be" comment.

Corey31 06-02-10 09:56 AM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 

Originally Posted by 12thmonkey (Post 10189931)
:shrug:
I've watched the show from S01 on, and I still watch. And it makes me laugh.

This is my opinion. Every other show that I watched as a kid has come and gone and The Simpsons remains the one true staple. Sure these seasons are not as good as Season 2-10 where almost every episode was comedy gold but it still makes me laugh. Nothing will ever destroy it's legacy, it will always be the best comedy in the history of television (IMO).

Personally I think it will run for as long as the voice actors want to do it. Combined they make roughly half of what the cast of Friends made in the last season and The Simpsons probably creates much more revenue for FOX then Friends ever did for the WB. DVDs, Video Games, Action Figures, T-Shirts, Candy, etc. Chances are anything you need to buy you can get it with Homer or Bart on it.

shizawn 06-02-10 10:13 AM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
I still watch them, and I still enjoy them, so its legacy isn't tainted, at least to me.

Anubis2005X 06-02-10 10:47 AM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
Love The Simpsons, always have, always will.

Zwerchfell 06-02-10 11:21 AM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
As some pointed out the last 2 seasons have been better again. Also going HD helped a lot too :P. Oddly enough I always kept watching the Simpsons even it was almost like work to do so for a while.

Double_Oh_7 06-02-10 11:47 AM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 

Originally Posted by mmconhea (Post 10190099)

Stop with the Simpsons hate. It's tired.

So is The Simpsons.

notkevinbacon 06-02-10 11:55 AM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
I think the fact that the movie was such a success (personally for me, but critically and financially as well) helped usher back in some old fans and is partially responsible for the improvement in the past couple seasons.

Tommy Ceez 06-02-10 12:47 PM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
So wait, i'm no Simpsons afficianato, but do you think that some of the problem is that you are in a different place than you were 13 YEARS AGO?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!

Philip Reuben 06-02-10 03:31 PM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
Seasons 11 and 12 are the weakest part of the entire show. I'm not generally a fan of the Simpsons when it's going for gross-out humour, celebrities playing themselves and Homer actively being a bastard to his friends and family, and I think those seasons were the worst for that.

After that it improved markedly, and it's been at a relatively consistent level of decently mediocre for the past 9 years or so. There's the odd episode here and there that really stands out as great (and I agree with many that there were more of these than usual in the past two seasons), and the odd one here and there that's truly execrable, but for the most part it's just a show with familiar characters and some good laughs every week. It'll never regain the pure genius of its glory days, but for me, it doesn't have to.

I have very little patience for people who insist that the show is continually getting worse and worse when they haven't even watched the show for five years or more. I don't think many people who actually do watch it would echo that sentiment.

DarbyD53 06-02-10 03:48 PM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
I love it to this day and will always watch it. I'm attached to the characters even though they are cartoons.

Cardiff Giant11 06-02-10 04:19 PM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 

Originally Posted by 12thmonkey (Post 10189931)
:shrug:
I've watched the show from S01 on, and I still watch. And it makes me laugh.

Agreed. while I know some people haven't found some of the more recent episodes funny I've enjoyed most of them especially the last season or two. I think that for some people it's just the fashionable thing to do to say The Simpsons isn't funny if for nothing else just to try to be "different" or "alternative".

smirnoffski 06-02-10 07:27 PM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
Except for maybe a few seasons around 2000-2003, the show is still very watchable.

Maybe not as great as its prime, which I consider to be season 3 through the death of Phil Hartman. After that, it seems the show lost its soul, only to regain it to a large extent later on.

Nevertheless, in its current form, it is far better than most of the comedy airing on television today, animated or not. I actually find the last few seasons of the Simpsons to actually be superior to the last few seasons of Family Guy.

mhg83 06-02-10 09:39 PM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
what happened to that spinoff where each episode focused on one character? maybe thats what will replace simpsons when it ends?

Wazootyman 06-03-10 02:25 AM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 

Originally Posted by Flipper (Post 10190111)
There should be a support group for people who have grown older and wiser and have slipped out of their once-favorite-show's target demographic. The first cry for help would be posting your first "The Simpsons/Family Guy/SNL isn't as funny as it used to be" comment.

Oddly enough, I needed that support group at the age of 12 for Saturday Night Live. While I didn't grow up with the late 80s cast, I watched it a ton on Comedy Central, and to compare it to the crap that Ferrell and co were putting out was worlds apart. Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer will live on forever!

As far as the original question, I don't think it ever will destroy it's legacy. While I do agree that seasons 3-8 were the best, there's generally some good--at least a funny line or two--found in pretty much every episode. I definitely agree some of the recent ones have been much more hit than 5 years ago though.

whoopdido 06-03-10 02:36 AM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 

Originally Posted by Wazootyman (Post 10191705)
Oddly enough, I needed that support group at the age of 12 for Saturday Night Live. While I didn't grow up with the late 80s cast, I watched it a ton on Comedy Central, and to compare it to the crap that Ferrell and co were putting out was worlds apart. Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer will live on forever!

As far as the original question, I don't think it ever will destroy it's legacy. While I do agree that seasons 3-8 were the best, there's generally some good--at least a funny line or two--found in pretty much every episode. I definitely agree some of the recent ones have been much more hit than 5 years ago though.

I really wonder if this would be the same scenario as the "classic" Simpsons episodes for me.

I LOVED Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer and the copy guy and all of the old classic skits from that time period. I think back to the days of Hartman, Nealon, Sandler, Farley, Spade, Schneider and stuff from that time and wish to God SNL was as funny as it was then. BUT...I have a distinct feelling that if I actually watched those old skits that are currently held so lofty in my mind, I really wonder if I'd be disappointed. I mean is Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer really as funny as I think it was?

dom56 06-03-10 09:31 AM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
After all these long years little Maggie still suck on her pacifier.

majorjoe23 06-03-10 10:37 AM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
When the show started, Bart was 10 and so was I. Now I'm 31. Homer's 38, right? If I was the same age as Home when the show went off the air, it would feel pretty fitting.

To me, anyway. No one else would care.

Bill Needle 06-03-10 12:36 PM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 

Originally Posted by whoopdido (Post 10191714)
I mean is Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer really as funny as I think it was?

Yes, IMO it absolutely is. I still laugh about it and throw quotes in here and there during business. The others, maybe not so much. "Sometimes the honking horns of your traffic make me want to get out of my BMW.. and run off into the hills, or wherever." :lol:

digidoh 06-05-10 05:07 PM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
I agree that the show isn't as good as it used to be, but I feel it's held up good considering it's been on for twenty years.

Some might consider the following a self-fulfilling prophecy. On April 30, 1992, when FOX reran the episode "Three Men and a Comic Book", new footage was added at the end of the episode. Homer, watching TV, saw a picture of Bill Cosby, with the caption "The Cosby Show // 1984-1992." (This Simpsons rerun aired the same night as the last episode of "The Cosby Show")

Homer: Little Theo. You grew up before our eyes.
Bart: Hey, Dad. How come they're taking The Cosby Show off the air?'
Homer: Because Mr. Cosby wanted to stop before the quality suffered.
Bart: Quality, schmality! If I had a TV show, I'd run that sucker into the ground!
Homer: (patting Bart on the back) Amen, boy. Amen.

L Chabert Lover 06-13-10 12:55 PM

Re: At what point does the Simpsons completly destroy it's legacy?
 
The Simpsons is like The Price Is Right (35 years with Bob Barker and the show still keeps going without him) of animated television.


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