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DVD Josh 05-25-10 10:32 PM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 
Glad to see some of the non-mains getting significant vocal time. Santana KILLED bad romance, she's just all around awesome.

spainlinx0 05-25-10 10:51 PM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 
Loved Bad Romance, but I was really underwhelmed by the rest of the numbers. I really disliked Pokerface. It was uncomfortable to watch. This episode also had a lot overly preachy and afterschool special dialogue pieces. I'm actually pretty disappointed in this episode.

Rypro 525 05-25-10 10:56 PM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 

Originally Posted by spainlinx0 (Post 10179122)
I really disliked Pokerface. It was uncomfortable to watch. .

i was gonna kind of say that to. Isn't Poker Face kind of about sex (especially the bluffin with my muffin line)

spainlinx0 05-25-10 11:01 PM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 
I always thought the double entendre of that song was blatantly obvious. Maybe that was the joke?

Arrested Development had the great relatives singing an inappropriate song with "Afternoon Delight."

I just remember what really bugged me. What was this, the information episode? The way they talked about Gaga was like they were reading her Wiki entry. The same thing with the Kiss information. What the hell was that about?

HE Pennypacker 05-25-10 11:03 PM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 
The way that principle dude said "goth" was quite amusing, indeed.

Is this program always this much fun? I'm thinking about following it from the beginning, as I basically have no more fictional entertainment left on network television.

Rypro 525 05-25-10 11:07 PM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 

Originally Posted by HE Pennypacker (Post 10179150)
The way that principle dude said "goth" was quite amusing, indeed.

Is this program always this much fun? I'm thinking about following it from the beginning, as I basically have no more fictional entertainment left on network television.

Yes, whenever Sue gets pissed, its always entertaining

Giantrobo 05-25-10 11:28 PM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 
I'm soooooo glad they <b>didn't</b> play Rock and Roll all Night!!!! :up:

The one they played, the 1st one, is one of my KISS faves.

kstublen 05-25-10 11:28 PM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 

Originally Posted by HE Pennypacker (Post 10179150)
The way that principle dude said "goth" was quite amusing, indeed.

Is this program always this much fun? I'm thinking about following it from the beginning, as I basically have no more fictional entertainment left on network television.

If you liked tonight I'm sure you'll like the rest of the episodes. I'd actually say this was one of the weaker episodes of the show.

MrX 05-25-10 11:52 PM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 

Originally Posted by spainlinx0 (Post 10179122)
Loved Bad Romance, but I was really underwhelmed by the rest of the numbers. I really disliked Pokerface. It was uncomfortable to watch. This episode also had a lot overly preachy and afterschool special dialogue pieces. I'm actually pretty disappointed in this episode.

Same here. Idina Menzel's lip-synching just looked off and was really distracting.

anomynous 05-25-10 11:58 PM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 
It doesn't help that the way they sang Poker Face was way too similar to Kid Cudi's "Make Her Say", in which Poker Face was sampled. They sang it so closely to the way Kanye West used in in the beat

boogieman03 05-26-10 12:07 AM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 

Originally Posted by anomynous (Post 10179242)
It doesn't help that the way they sang Poker Face was way too similar to Kid Cudi's "Make Her Say", in which Poker Face was sampled. They sang it so closely to the way Kanye West used in in the beat

I was thinking the same thing. I actually got a little excited thinking they were going to use "Maker Her Say".

Fun episode. I liked it. I kinda wish Kurt would get the picture that Finn isn't gay and just move on. His obsession is getting really creepy now.

wmansir 05-26-10 12:34 AM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 

Originally Posted by spainlinx0 (Post 10179122)
Loved Bad Romance, but I was really underwhelmed by the rest of the numbers. I really disliked Pokerface. It was uncomfortable to watch. This episode also had a lot overly preachy and afterschool special dialogue pieces. I'm actually pretty disappointed in this episode.

+1

I was looking forward to this episode, but Bad Romance aside the musical numbers were lame.

The Kurt's dad speech would have come off a lot better if Finn wasn't mostly in the right. And how small must Finn's place be if Kurt's place is twice as big but still only has two bedrooms? And damn, Kurt can really stretch a budget. For $300 bucks he created a whole Victorian whorehouse look.

Also, it seems like they snuffed out the Rachael's mom storyline while it was still in it's crib.

DRG 05-26-10 12:51 AM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 

Originally Posted by anomynous (Post 10179242)
It doesn't help that the way they sang Poker Face was way too similar to Kid Cudi's "Make Her Say", in which Poker Face was sampled. They sang it so closely to the way Kanye West used in in the beat

I think Gaga had been doing it that way in some live performances before Kanye sampled it. Here's one instance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_UUK...eature=related

My only issue with that performance (the Glee one) was that it seemed to go on a bit long for what it was.

bdshort 05-26-10 12:56 AM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 
Did I miss much after the glee club confronted the two jocks in the bathroom? Apparently 5 minutes wasn't enough padding and my DVR cut off. Stupid American Idol! :mad:

I agree about the confrontation in Kurt's bedroom. Very well done and dramatic, but Finn was right.

DJariya 05-26-10 03:53 AM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 

Originally Posted by bdshort (Post 10179272)
Did I miss much after the glee club confronted the two jocks in the bathroom? Apparently 5 minutes wasn't enough padding and my DVR cut off. Stupid American Idol! :mad:

American Idol finished on time today. Glee started at 9pm and ended at 9:59pm.

DJariya 05-26-10 04:02 AM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 
Overall it was an okay episode. The tone of it felt way to preachy.

Bad Romance was probably the best part of the episode. The chereography was awesome and the costumes were really wacky, but cool. Naya Rivera rocks! Loved her part in the song. I'm glad she and Heather Morris are going to be regulars next season.

I have to agree that most of the songs were underwhelming. I did like Idina's solo in the beginning before Rachel revealed herself to her. I hated the Poker Face duet with Idina and Lea. I actually like the original version with Lady Gaga and thought that new slow piano arrangement was horrible. Not my favorite track on the Volume 3 CD. That is such a weird song choice for a Mother-Daughter duet. The guys doing Kiss was a big WTF? How the hell to you segway from Lady Gaga to Kiss?

I liked Kurt's Dad confrontation with Finn after his really mean remarks to Kurt. I'm glad he was finally put into place.

Still love the show and it had a few good moments, but not my favorite.

TheGuy 05-26-10 07:59 AM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 
I sorta got a "Quincy" vibe from the last to shows with all the preaching For the young ones

That'sAllFolks 05-26-10 08:10 AM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 10179356)

I liked Kurt's Dad confrontation with Finn after his really mean remarks to Kurt. I'm glad he was finally put into place.

Still love the show and it had a few good moments, but not my favorite.

No, he was misunderstood. Perhaps the remark was cruel given the fact Finn was probably frustrated. But c'mon, Kurt had a crush on him which Finn sensed. Finn felt uncomfortable because he had to share a room with someone who's sexual orientation TOWARD HIM was not something he desired.

Just because Kurt is gay does not make him automatically the one being oppressed. Finn is straight. He doesn't want to f*** Kurt.

I get tired of the networks ALWAYS portraying gays as the victim.

Draven 05-26-10 08:13 AM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 10179356)
The guys doing Kiss was a big WTF? How the hell to you segway from Lady Gaga to Kiss?

I think you could make the argument that KISS is a great example of "theatricality" from a guy's perspective. That's what I got from it, and thought it was a good choice.

I liked the episode, though it was tough to top last weeks (which I still think is the best Glee episode to date). And I liked the "Poker Face" duet a lot - I thought it was an interesting version, and nice to see them do something other than a straight cover of a song.

I'm not a big KISS fan so that didn't do much for me, but otherwise I thought it was a good entry. I teared up a bit during both Kurt/Dad/Finn, the "Beth" scene (because of Quinn's reaction) and the scene at the end between Rachel and her mom. You could really tell that both women were impressed with each other and cared about each other...kudos to Lea and Idina for pulling that off.

Dragon Tattoo 05-26-10 08:33 AM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 10179356)
I liked Kurt's Dad confrontation with Finn after his really mean remarks to Kurt. I'm glad he was finally put into place.

What? Finally put in his place? Finn's been far TOO nice to Kurt given what the kid's clearly after. I was glad he finally stood up for himself, only to have that all shot down within minutes. No matter how understanding a person is, Kurt's stalking is CREEPY. The kid purposefully set his Dad up with Finn's mom to get this, and I don't like how the show seems to be saying that's alright, just get used to your gay stalker.

Draven 05-26-10 10:23 AM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo (Post 10179538)
What? Finally put in his place? Finn's been far TOO nice to Kurt given what the kid's clearly after. I was glad he finally stood up for himself, only to have that all shot down within minutes. No matter how understanding a person is, Kurt's stalking is CREEPY. The kid purposefully set his Dad up with Finn's mom to get this, and I don't like how the show seems to be saying that's alright, just get used to your gay stalker.

I think the issue is that if it had been a girl, Finn would have probably been nicer and more understanding (like he was with Rachel when she was similarly obsessed). Since it's a gay kid, he acts more like he's being attacked and threatened, yells, calls out names, etc. He's never really reacted to Kurt in a positive way.

I act in theater around town as a hobby and most of the men in that world are gay (around here anyway). In fact, I'm currently playing the husband of a man in a show. You would not believe how many people have asked me, when they find out, if I kiss him. I know they would never ask the same thing if I was playing opposite a woman. I think it's that kind of mentality, taken to an extreme, that Finn is portraying.

MJFargo 05-26-10 10:26 AM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 

Originally Posted by spainlinx0 (Post 10179122)
This episode also had a lot overly preachy and afterschool special dialogue pieces. I'm actually pretty disappointed in this episode.

Ditto. I like the show best when it makes fun of itself and isn't trying to teach us something.

spainlinx0 05-26-10 10:34 AM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 10179730)
I think the issue is that if it had been a girl, Finn would have probably been nicer and more understanding (like he was with Rachel when she was similarly obsessed). Since it's a gay kid, he acts more like he's being attacked and threatened, yells, calls out names, etc. He's never really reacted to Kurt in a positive way.

I act in theater around town as a hobby and most of the men in that world are gay (around here anyway). In fact, I'm currently playing the husband of a man in a show. You would not believe how many people have asked me, when they find out, if I kiss him. I know they would never ask the same thing if I was playing opposite a woman. I think it's that kind of mentality, taken to an extreme, that Finn is portraying.

I think that was the point as well, but I don't think even Rachel took it to the levels that Kurt did. He's basically a stalker if you think about it. He organized a relationship between their parents in order to have complete access to him.

I think had Rachel done the same thing Finn might have called her a psycho stalker bitch. Also, you wouldn't expect Rachel and Finn to share a room. It's uncomfortable to have someone obsess over you that you have zero intimate feelings for.

Also, did you kiss him?

spainlinx0 05-26-10 10:37 AM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 
So is the creator gay? I feel like the writing of Kurt's dad seems very "wish-fulfillment" on the part of the writers, and I think his reaction to Finn this episode took it a little over the top. It's like he had that speech about the n-word, retards, and **** ready, but needed to shoehorn a scene in to justify using it.

Draven 05-26-10 10:42 AM

Re: Glee -- "Theatricality" -- 05/25/10
 

Originally Posted by spainlinx0 (Post 10179748)
I think that was the point as well, but I don't think even Rachel took it to the levels that Kurt did. He's basically a stalker if you think about it. He organized a relationship between their parents in order to have complete access to him.

I think had Rachel done the same thing Finn might have called her a psycho stalker bitch. Also, you wouldn't expect Rachel and Finn to share a room. It's uncomfortable to have someone obsess over you that you have zero intimate feelings for.

Also, did you kiss him?

No, we don't. But I've done it in other shows so it wouldn't be a big deal. I've kissed girls too and it meant exactly the same thing...nothing. I don't even think about it.

And while Kurt has definitely gone too far (and now realizes it, I think), I can't see Finn violently throwing things and yelling at Rachel, no matter what she did. I think a better response would have been for Finn to just say "sorry dude, I'm just not into you. It would be better if we divided up the room so I could have my own space." He basically said nothing and then exploded. Which is how a 16-year-old boy probably would handle it. But remember that Kurt is 16 too, and is just as capable of being immature as Finn is. And I think he was being that way in this scenario.

I've also dated some psycho girls in my day. However, I never flipped out on them, even though they did things worse than Kurt did.


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