By the way, I love that we have multiple people talking about Earl Cole in this thread. He deserves more respect than he gets when people talk about the greatest Survivor players.

I loved Ozzie but figured I'd just go with winners to make it easier on myself

Jordan wasn't too bad and while I rooted for Michele too, I've heard the experience completely changed her and she's totally full of herself now and hangs with the Mike Boogie crowd of people who think they are major celebrities because they played a game show. She got implants and totally looks different. Not in the good, cute but nerdy way that made her so adorable in the first place. I was disappointed to hear that.

Even with that reminder I came up empty till I found her picture and the light went on. And then I remembered what you were talking about.

After all the Earl talk I had to look up his season to see who he was. After being reminded of a whole bunch of other players from that season, I still don't remember anything at all about Earl, even after looking at a picture of him. For some reason the guy is completely wiped from my memory banks. Can't remember a single moment of him from that season, even his winning it.

More ambiguous and unseen reasons why Natalie deserved to win. At least when I explain why I think Russell deserved to win that season I don't have to extrapolate evidence from assumptions and scour the cutting room floor. See, apparently from different interviews she also threatened to have the jury's families killed to get their votes, but they didn't show it because apparently like every other thing she did in her season even Natalie's death threats it turns out are so mind-numbingly insipid and pointless they could not be shown.

If you have to work that hard to support her winning, and the reasons are still that weak, that just further makes my point. Natalie (like Sandra after her) had zero effect on the game prior to the final TC other than casting votes for the person Russell told her to. A stuffed shirt in her place would have given the EXACT same results. But then she regurgitated something about family at the final TC. Well, that's the very definition of outwit, outplay, outlast. There can be no doubt she is the ultimate survivor.

It's not ambigious it is taken from the interviews of those who were on the jury and voted for her. Survivor has always been largely a popularity contest at final tribal council .

And "deserving" to win is abritary. If you get more voted no matter the reason you deserve to win .



Keep in mind the tribal councils we see in the finals each season that are edited to a crisp 20 or 30 minutes or so go on for a couple hours. Like in Cook Islands for example the girl in the final 3 with Yul and Ozzy was probably asked questions by the jurors and she probably replied with answers but because she was not a factor in the votes and irrelevent to the edit of the show her season whatever questions were asked and whatever replies were given will sit in a vault forever.

Again, why do you deserve to win because you got more votes? Those are mutually exclusive things.

1) Richard Hatch - he set the rules for how to win the game. He was the first of his tribe to be voted out in All-Stars because he is a major threat. If the Heroes vs Villians cast would have watched Samoa, Russell would have been in the same position

2) Tom Westman - His challenge performance alone puts him on this list.

3) Brian Heidek - One of the few "villians" to win the game. Doing so by taking along the most undeserving finalist is just genius.

4) Earl Cole - Great control of the game, super nice guy personality, I wish he would return just to see how far he could get in an all-star game.

5) Sandra - Her first win was against Lil, who was hated by the jury. However playing twice and winning both times is pretty hard to argue against no matter how she got to the end.

6) Russell Hanz - Finding Hidden idols without clues and having major control of both games he played puts him on this list.

Natalie (and Sandra) were in the final TC, so by definition they were eligible to win, that doesn't mean they deserved to win.

You could have a senile grandma who is eligible to be elected President of the United States. But even though she remembers your birthday every year and just might know more about your kids than you do it doesn't mean she deserves your vote for president just because someone else entered her in the race. But if enough clowns vote for her as a joke then I guess you are saying that all changes.

Fixed...


Best player ever is still Richard Hatch. He told everyone on day one he was going to win, then he did.

Surprised by the lack of Ethan love.

Eh...Ethan was a nice guy, but what we saw on TV was Lex running that alliance. He only won b/c Kim Johnson liked him more than Lex as she figured she would lose to both of them.