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Old 05-14-10 | 01:40 AM
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Didn't they do a Law and Order: London recently? Why not show that over here?
Old 05-14-10 | 02:00 AM
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They did a UK edition, but they've only made 13 episodes and they reused scripts from the early years of the original series. They retooled the scripts obviously. The plot points are largely the same but there were technological and cultural adjustments and stylistically it was less strait procedural and more dramatic.
Old 05-14-10 | 03:30 AM
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They did a UK edition, but they've only made 13 episodes and they reused scripts from the early years of the original series. They retooled the scripts obviously. The plot points are largely the same but there were technological and cultural adjustments and stylistically it was less strait procedural and more dramatic.
I liked the UK version a lot. I hear they are doing a second season of 13 episodes, and they're all going to be new stories this time.
Old 05-14-10 | 08:05 AM
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It's been a nice run, but the last 10 seasons paled in comparison to the first 10. I'd rather watch the old eps on DVD and reruns than new ones anyhow.
Old 05-14-10 | 09:58 AM
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This would suck if it is going to be cancelled. Law & Order has become good again after some not so good years. I think Sisto and Anderson have great chemistry together and Roache has been great as Cutter.

Law & Order is one of those shows that could go on forever IMO. It's never been a show that goes into the detectives and prosecutors personal lives that often and when the cast changes it's just like in real life when people get a different position or are fired, etc.
Old 05-14-10 | 10:06 AM
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I agree with others that it's gotten a lot better in the past few seasons. I'd much rather see any of the spin-offs get canceled before the original.
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It's official: Original 'Law & Order' to end
NBC renews 'SVU,' picks up 'L&O: Los Angeles'
By MICHAEL SCHNEIDER

NBC has scrapped 11th hour plans to save "Law and Order," which has been cancelled after 20 seasons.

Peacock simultaneously confirmed that it remains deep in the Dick Wolf business, picking up "Law and Order: Los Angeles," commonly known as "LOLA." "Law and Order: SVU" also secured a pickup.


News came a day after word leaked that "Law and Order" would be canceled. But Wolf and NBC were still in talks late Thursday, and it appeared possible the show might be saved.

In the end, though, NBC opted to go out with the old and in with the new.

"Law and Order" will now conclude its 20th season on Monday, May 24, at 10 p.m. with a series finale.

But that won't quite be the end for "Law." The network said it plans to talk to Wolf after the upfronts about finding a way of providing the show more closure.

That might include bringing the "Law and Order" characters on to "LOLA's" premiere episode, offering a passing of the torch. Or "Law and Order" could always wrap with a TV movie.


"The full measure of the collective contributions made by Dick Wolf and his 'Law & Order' franchise over the last two decades to the success of NBC and Universal Media Studios cannot be overstated," said NBC U TV Ent. Chairman Jeff Gaspin. " The legacy of his original 'Law & Order' series will continue to make an impact like no other series before."

Added NBC primetime entertainment topper Angela Bromstad: "'Law & Order' has been one of the most successful franchises in the history of television, which is why it is so critical that we continue this important brand and our relationship with Dick Wolf and his team with 'LOLA' and 'Law & Order: SVU.'" According to insiders, talks went deep into Thursday night to keep "Law and Order" alive, and give it some sort of brief order. But various creative, scheduling and financial models didn't pan out.

NBC U had apparently been hoping that Turner might step in and foot the bill for some first-run segs, but TNT -- which made a play for the show in 2007 -- wasn't interested this time.

"Law and Order" is already produced efficiently, so attempts to bring down costs were also difficult to pull off.

In the end, it appears that "Law and Order" may not be able to beat "Gunsmoke's" 20 season record, and will have to settle for a tie.

"LOLA" will follow a similar crime drama structure to "Law and Order" -- but this time on the streets of L.A. Wolf and Blake Masters ("Brotherhood") are exec producers. Show is still being cast.
Old 05-14-10 | 12:40 PM
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Come on, they couldn't give it ONE more season to break the record?!?! If it's doing so poorly, why add ANOTHER spin-off?
Old 05-14-10 | 12:57 PM
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Multiple sources are saying that the long-running drama will not return next season to break the "Gunsmoke" record...

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/05/13...d-by-nbc/51332
Haven't watched in several years...but the Jerry Orbach/Chris Noth/Benjamin Bratt time frame was a blast.
Old 05-14-10 | 01:53 PM
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Ok NBC has gone full retard. They are going to cancel the original yet launch another spin-off...um...huh?
Old 05-14-10 | 04:00 PM
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I guess I can understand why they did this but I'm just annoyed that they did this so late in the season. It would be much better for closure of the series and bringing back old characters (Adam Schiff, Rey Curtis, Mike Logan etc) to give it a proper send off.

NY is a big part of Law and Order I'm not sure LA will have that much of an impact on the spinoff, which I will not be watching.
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Originally Posted by KnightLerxst
Ok NBC has gone full retard. They are going to cancel the original yet launch another spin-off...um...huh?
And if LOLA flops theyve lost big time. Dumb asses.
Old 05-14-10 | 05:46 PM
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Peacock simultaneously confirmed that it remains deep in the Dick Wolf business, picking up "Law and Order: Los Angeles," commonly known as "LOLA."
Will the Kinks do the theme song?
Old 05-14-10 | 09:02 PM
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NBC seems intent on finding new ways to stay at the bottom of the pack .......
Old 05-14-10 | 09:41 PM
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I think this is the only current nbc show I watch (regular and SVU, and CI but that's USA now) now that ER is gone.
wait, Trauma was NBC wasn't it? but that got canned
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This is definitely a bad thing for the NY acting scene. If you were a working actor in NYC in the last 20 years, chances are you've been on L&O at least once.

I don't watch on NBC that much, but I do frequently watch the reruns on TNT. Is there any specific reason why I never see the Michael Moriarty episodes?
Old 05-15-10 | 06:49 AM
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I don't think they like showing the early episodes because nobody would watch the later stuff if they remembered how awesome the early stuff was. That's my explanation, at least.
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I don't watch on NBC that much, but I do frequently watch the reruns on TNT. Is there any specific reason why I never see the Michael Moriarty episodes?
Because of the 'dated' cars, fashions and technology from the early 90's (typewriters, DOS computers, etc.) TNT chooses to only air "L&O" episodes from 1994-1995 on in the daytime. The Moriarty-era TNT episodes are shown weekend overnights (Friday overnight/early Sunday morning and Saturday overnight/early Sunday) between 3 and 7AM. Check your listings tonight/tomorrow morning and you'll see Season 1-4 Ben Stone episodes airing regularly on the weekends (or you can program a VCR/DVR to tape them).
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Nice work, man. Now I might actually try to record some Stone-era L&O. I love that shit.
Old 05-15-10 | 08:01 PM
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Yeah, they pretty much bury the S1-S5 Law and Order eps in the extreme early morning hours where you have to be either a hardcore fanatic or an insomniac to catch it. They always run the crappy S12-current stuff in the prime time hours.
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If you really need your Michael Moriarty fix, there's always this:

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Originally Posted by marty888
NBC seems intent on finding new ways to stay at the bottom of the pack .......
L&O was a 20 year old show. C'mon. It's not like they kept Trauma, Mercy or Heroes either.
Old 05-16-10 | 09:41 AM
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This is definitely a bad thing for the NY acting scene. If you were a working actor in NYC in the last 20 years, chances are you've been on L&O at least once.
New York's faces: `Law & Order' showed 'em all
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Since television was born, TV shows have been set in New York City. From "The Honeymooners" all the way to "30 Rock," generations of New Yorkers have grown up seeing their hometown used as a backdrop, or even a central character, in everything from sitcoms and cartoons to edgy dramas.

Some shows depict a New York that simply doesn't exist (try and find two struggling Manhattan twentysomethings with a "Friends"-sized apartment). Others offer a window into a single corner of New York life: Fashion-obsessed women really do sip cocktails in trendy bars, just like on "Sex and the City."

But most TV fare offers up a mere sliver of New York City. For two decades, until it was canceled Friday, NBC's "Law & Order" did something different. It showed the world not just one New York but hundreds.

We saw wealthy criminals who could afford to get away with their felonies. We saw immigrant communities, middle-class families and people of all stripes struggling, sometimes stumbling through their day. We saw Manhattan and the far boroughs. We saw New Yorkers who didn't care enough to report crimes and people who risked their lives to save strangers.

Made in New York by people who lived there, "Law & Order" never trafficked in Gotham cliches.

"A New York City institution," mayor Michael Bloomberg called the show Friday. He praised producer Dick Wolf for "helping showcase the city's depth and versatility."

Many New Yorkers would agree. They made room for "Law & Order" in their lives. And the show's unique structure, partnering gritty police drama with high-stakes legal scheming, made room for the entire city in return — and employed a whole lot of its people.

If your neighbor or cousin or favorite bartender was an actor, chances are at some point they turned up on "Law & Order." The show hired actors for as many as 700 speaking roles each season; that's 14,000 roles over its tenure.


Lorraine Rodriguez, a theater actress and native New Yorker, grew up watching the show. She earned her Screen Actors Guild card appearing on "The Sopranos," but "Law & Order" was always her goal. She auditioned four times for "day player" roles on the show but had yet to land one when she heard it had been canceled.

"The first thing my dad said when I started acting was, `When are you gonna be on Law & Order?'" Rodriguez says. "It's a big deal when they call you in."

"Other shows aren't like that," she says. "They brought in the `The Good Wife' to shoot here, but that's set in Chicago. ... You audition and they say Do you have a Chicago accent?' But with Law & Order, you felt like you can be you if you're from New York."

Wolf's long-running procedural, of course, wasn't the first show to feature the NYPD and the lawyers who help them put bad guys behind bars.

Across genres, and with varying degrees of authenticity, the territory was staked out by "Naked City," "Car 54, Where Are You?," "Kojak," "Barney Miller," "Cagney & Lacey" and "Life on Mars." And along with "NYPD Blue," "New York Undercover," "Third Watch," "CSI:NY" and spinoffs "Law & Order: SVU" and "Law & Order: Criminal Intent," there will be plenty more to come.

But this one belonged to New York like no other.

When New Yorkers stumble across a film shoot in progress, it often brings more inconvenience than excitement. Sure, you may see a famous face or two. But odds are the sidewalks will be cordoned off, the film crew will have taken all the parking spaces and harried production assistants will bark at you to keep your distance.

Not so "Law & Order." For two decades, an epoch in television time, the show quietly and seamlessly shot scene after scene on the streets of the city. A mutual respect developed: They didn't close your block, and you didn't stare at the camera or the actors as you walked through a shot on your way home.


With so many scenes shot outdoors, details of New Yorkers' lives, from the breakfast bagel cart to the subway station, were forever popping up on the show. That's part of what gave it street cred for actors — and for agents and casting people, who saw it as a crucial stepping stone.

"It's always been a barometer to find out if you were going to have some sort of credibility as an actor in New York," says Henry Ravelo, an acting teacher and theatrical manager. "At a certain point, casting directors and agents and managers look at your resume and see if you have a `Law & Order' on your resume. If an actor doesn't, then they've got to ask themselves, `What am I doing in New York?"


In production for much of the year, the show also employed a steady flow of extras and stand-ins for every episode. For fledgling SAG members, that meant a few hundred dollars toward the rent and a chance to get familiar with life the set of a major network series.

With "Law & Order" closing up shop, its new spinoff being shot in Los Angeles and soap operas folding or leaving town, young New York City actors are wondering where the breaks will come.

"All My Children," produced in New York for nearly 40 years, moved to LA in December, shortly after "Guiding Light" bit the dust. Even Woody Allen has left town, preferring London as a backdrop over his native New York in recent years. That gives the departure of "Law & Order" all the more sting.

"A show like this was a gift," says Marc Isaacmann, who founded a service called "One on One" that introduces actors to the city's casting directors. "`Law & Order' launched so many careers. ... We were spoiled."

Murray Pomerance, writing in the preface to "City that Never Sleeps: New York and the Filmic Imagination," says typical New Yorkers stick to their block and their neighborhood. "For the tourist, each moment in New York is, at least potentially, a sparkling treasure, an immensity of experience; for the New Yorker, there is a comforting mundanity to everyday life, a predictability and a delicious smallness."

It was that "delicious smallness," in the context of epic stories of good and evil, that "Law & Order" did so well.
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TNT will have a ten-hour marathon of classic "L&O" on Monday, May 24th, leading up to the series finale on NBC: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post18668251. Some Moriarity "L&O" early in the afternoon!

Noon “Point of View” – first episode featuring Jerry Orbach’s character, Detective Lennie Briscoe.

1 p.m. “Sanctuary” – favorite episode of Michael Moriarity, who plays ADA Ben Stone.

2 p.m. “Competence” – episode in which Lt. Anita Van Buren (S. Epatha Merkerson) is shot.

3 p.m. “Pride” – last regular episode featuring Chris Noth’s character, Detective Mike Logan.

4 p.m. “Terminal” – favorite episode of Sam Waterston, who plays ADA Jack McCoy, and Steven Hill, who plays DA Adam Schiff.

5 p.m. “Gunshow” – first and favorite episode of Jesse L. Martin, who plays Detective Ed Green.

6 p.m. “C.O.D.” – final episode for Jerry Orbach’s Detective Lennie Briscoe.

7 p.m. “Burn Card” – final episode for Jesse L. Martin’s Detective Ed Green.

8 p.m. “Illegal” – fan favorite.

9 p.m. “Zero” – fan favorite, with memorable ending in which Jack McCoy refers to Adam Schiff

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