Lost: The Final Season -- "The Substitute" -- 02/16/10
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- "The Substitute" -- 02/16/10
You could be right, but why couldn't he kill James? I know James' name was on Jacob's list of candidates, but MIB doesn't care about Jacob's list or protecting the island. If he was referring to James, then I wonder why it would be against the rules for MIB to kill him.
I wonder if the show will end like the finale began last season with Sawyer (white)vs whoever MIBs replacement is at the beginning of there time on the island?
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- "The Substitute" -- 02/16/10
How come no one is asking who the candidate to replace Jacob will be???? I would think Locke if it weren't for the whole dead thing (but Flocke shouting "Don't tell me what I can't do" might mean something... maybe Locke has infected Smokey). My next guess would be Hurly.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- "The Substitute" -- 02/16/10
I wonder if the show will end like the finale began last season with Sawyer (white)vs whoever MIBs replacement is at the beginning of there time on the island?
Spoiled just in case:
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- "The Substitute" -- 02/16/10
Why would MIB take any part in the replacement of Jacob or even bring it up if it took him so long to kill him in the first place? And was that little cave there for both of them to use or is the MIB making his first trip there now that Jacob is gone? Were these two at least amicable where they could walk amongst each other and discuss the players in "the game"?
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- "The Substitute" -- 02/16/10
White and black is a type of "good and evil." Jacob was the good and the other guy was the evil. Jacob is now dead so the stone representing him can now be thrown out.
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Do we really have a measure on good and evil in this game though?
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Why would MIB take any part in the replacement of Jacob or even bring it up if it took him so long to kill him in the first place? And was that little cave there for both of them to use or is the MIB making his first trip there now that Jacob is gone? Were these two at least amicable where they could walk amongst each other and discuss the players in "the game"?
And why does everyone think the bomb immediately sank the island killing everyone? Maybe little Ben and some 'others' got off after the bomb exploded, but before the island sank.
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I believe they were amicable in the beginning based on the scene with them together watching the Blackrock and Jacob telling Hugo he was "killed by an old friend who grew tired of my company."
And why does everyone think the bomb immediately sank the island killing everyone? Maybe little Ben and some 'others' got off after the bomb exploded, but before the island sank.
And why does everyone think the bomb immediately sank the island killing everyone? Maybe little Ben and some 'others' got off after the bomb exploded, but before the island sank.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- "The Substitute" -- 02/16/10
Also, MIB said he used to be a man. I thought that this was quite a reveal. Sort of rules out my "alien beings" locked in an epic battle theory...
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I was half expecting Locke to show Sawyer his spaceship when they went in to the cave. Then I thought no it would be to early in the season for that kind of reveal.
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Lostpedia has a list of the possible candidates. Lots of the crash survivors seem to be listed. Interesting that there seems to be no mention of Kate.
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jacob%27s_candidates
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jacob%27s_candidates
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Perhaps, Jacob was able to protect the island from natural disasters (tsunami's, earthquakes, volcanoes, etc) in the past by moving it.
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I think you are on to something here. Maybe the NC timeline is really a NJ (no Jacob) timeline? That would make sense given all of the other changes we have seen in the new timeline...maybe it is a better world without Jacob. Maybe Jacob is not such a good guy/thing...
Also, MIB said he used to be a man. I thought that this was quite a reveal. Sort of rules out my "alien beings" locked in an epic battle theory...
Also, MIB said he used to be a man. I thought that this was quite a reveal. Sort of rules out my "alien beings" locked in an epic battle theory...
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- "The Substitute" -- 02/16/10
As far as we know, Hurley didn't encounter Jacob until after his return as one of the Oceanic 6. It was when he got out of jail in 2007 that Jacob approached him. Unless that wasn't the first meeting between the two, one would assume his switch from unlucky to lucky was affected elsewhere.
Plus without Jacob around, he isn't able to protect the island from whatever sunk the island. (I'm thinking it wasn't the bomb that sunk the island).
Just a thought.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- "The Substitute" -- 02/16/10
I also think that the last scene in the cave may be MiB's place and not Jacob's.
Other than MiB suggesting it was Jacob's place, how do we know it was Jacob's?
Other than MiB suggesting it was Jacob's place, how do we know it was Jacob's?
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- "The Substitute" -- 02/16/10
I can see Jack taking Smokie's role and Sawyer the protector. Just because Sawyer is with him now, I don't think it will end that way.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- "The Substitute" -- 02/16/10
According to Lostpedia, apparently two of the names crossed out on the wall were Littleton and Straume. Miles and Claire/possibly Aaron?
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- "The Substitute" -- 02/16/10
Most of the series have been about Jack vs Locke, science vs faith, etc. Although Locke is suppose to be dead (dead is dead, right?), I'm not sure if that matters for being the new MiB.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- "The Substitute" -- 02/16/10
I don't think that I want to see people taking Jacob and MIB's place as it will leave a feeling that nothing has really been resolved.
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Good call. Sawyer has demonstrated a transition into the role of protector throughout the series. Even becoming the head of security for Dharma. Mark my words: Sawyer is the hero of this story.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- "The Substitute" -- 02/16/10
It's clear that Hawkeye sees Sawyer as Jacob's replacement. This is why he wants him off the island.



