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Old 02-09-10 | 02:15 PM
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

I hope Kreuk is a spy just so we can get her "prepping for a mission in lingerie" scene.
Old 02-09-10 | 05:37 PM
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

So let me see if I have the timeline correct...

Sarah works with Bryce and hooks up with him.

Sarah works with Chuck, has feelings for him, but doesn't hook up with him because it would be unprofessional.

Sarah works with Shaw and hooks up with him.

What am I missing?
Old 02-09-10 | 06:07 PM
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

The English MI-6 agent from season 2 who she would have run off with if she didn't have feelings for Chuck.
Old 02-09-10 | 06:22 PM
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Sarah is a spy-whore.
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

Originally Posted by mwbmis
So let me see if I have the timeline correct...

Sarah works with Bryce and hooks up with him.

Sarah works with Chuck, has feelings for him, but doesn't hook up with him because it would be unprofessional.

Sarah works with Shaw and hooks up with him.

What am I missing?
Define "hooking up."

If by hooking up you mean engaging in semi-intimate personal contact (kissing, for example), then she's hooked up with Chuck, Bryce, and Cole Barker (the MI-6 agent). Using a liberal interpretation of that definition (semi-intimate contact while undercover), she's also hooked up with a swanky millionaire (Chuck Verses the Crown Vic), a computer nerd (Chuck Versus the Nacho Sampler), and Shaw (the only real intimacy they've shown was Shaw massaging her shoulders at the end of this episode - that may change).* Chuck, by same definition, has hooked up with Sarah, Jill, Lou (Rachel Bilson's character in season 1), and Hannah; in the liberal sense, Sylvia (Jenny McCarthy's character in season 2) and (only in an extreme, life-threatening sense) Casey. Carina (the DEA agent played by Mini Anden) did try to seduce Chuck in season 1.

If "hooking up" is sexual activity, then Sarah (as far as we know) has only hooked up with Bryce. Chuck has hooked up with Jill. Sarah and Chuck nearly hooked up in Season 2, but Morgan foils that with a note.** Heck, Casey hooked up with an old flame (Chuck Versus the Undercover Lover).

Ironically, by the "hooking up is sexual activity" definition, Morgan has both of them beat in 3 seasons - he hooked up with Anna and Carina.

*I'm sure that list isn't complete, they just happen to be the only ones that come to mind.

**I may go as far to say that Sarah and Chuck have had only one sexual partner each. Sarah uses a lot of intimate contact on certain male assets to get information, but she's never (as far as we know) had sex with an asset (unlike her friend Carina). Chuck has never talked about having an active sex life outside of Jill - he did allude to a sexual encounter with Sarah, but only as a cover. (He confesses to Devon that he and Sarah never had sex with each other in "Chuck Versus the Angel de la Muerte".)

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Old 02-09-10 | 09:29 PM
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

Okay, spy stuff = good.

Superman reference = great. I would have been very disappointed if they didn't go there at some point.

Ellie and Morgan was fun as well. I hope this wasn't the only episode where they're going to be looking into Chuck's other life. I agree that Morgan looked crushed, but that's because he explicitly said to Chuck that he was into her. However, as is more often these days Chuck wasn't paying attention to his good friend.

With that out of the way - WTH is up with Chuck and Sarah?

I know Chuck is "spy" now, but old Chuck would not have given up so easily. He would have tried to slowly and surely won Sarah's trust back and her heart. Instead, and you can tell, halfheartedly going after Hannah. And he most certainly not have given that weak speech at the end about, "Oh well. At least you'll be with a good guy."

And really what is up with Sarah? She totally calls out Shaw and you could tell by her face that she was having none of that. Same goes for the cover at the art function. Then all of a sudden they get gassed and she "realizes" her feelings?! Where was pissed off Sarah from earlier? Where was Agent "Excuse me while I pine over my dead wife" Shaw?

Aside from the pairings, what pisses me off the most about that is the writers forcing the scenario. If you are going to go there - and obviously they were - why wouldn't you build up references to attraction? Instead it was like an on off switch.



I can only hope that the episode title was also eluding for their "feelings" for Hannah and Shaw respectively.
Old 02-09-10 | 10:39 PM
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

Originally Posted by stingermck
Its true. And it may be her being off of Smallville for a while, but Kristin looks even better than before.


Looks aside, I've been very impressed with her role.

Originally Posted by Superman07
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I know Chuck is "spy" now, but old Chuck would not have given up so easily. He would have tried to slowly and surely won Sarah's trust back and her heart. Instead, and you can tell, halfheartedly going after Hannah. And he most certainly not have given that weak speech at the end about, "Oh well. At least you'll be with a good guy."
What? Sarah's given Chuck nothing but the cold shoulder for 3 years. Hannah, like Bilson, liked Chuck for who he is and he had no problems working the bases with them. Times change. Chuck has a hottie all over him, and after three years of abstinence he's going to turn his back on that for someone that won't get remotely intimate with him? The Chuck and Sarah seesaw has run its course. I want them together in the end, but it's time for a break.

However, the Shaw & Sarah angle seems way too forced.
Old 02-10-10 | 08:57 AM
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

I'm still very bitter about this episode. Anyway, on more of a lighter note:

NBC announces season finale date through a two-hour "Chuck" (Monday, May 24, 8-10 p.m.).
Old 02-10-10 | 09:44 AM
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It looks like a nuclear bomb went off over at Alan Sepinwall's blog posts about Chuck. I haven't seen fans this worked up over a non-relationship in a long time.

The way I look at it is, Chuck is becoming more and more like a cold blooded spy and is trying to retain a sense of humanity by hooking up with a civilian whereas Sarah is becoming more and more human and trying to get back to her cold blooded spy roots by hooking up with a fellow spy.

Of course, that begs the question, if they're going in opposite directions, why don't they just hook up with each other in an attempt to reverse course?

I like Casey's frustration at not being able to blow anything up.

I'm surprised a customer or Buy-Morian hasn't found the trap door leading to the Castle.

I think you guys who think that KK is hotter than YS are nuts. KK is definitely hot, but YS blows her out of the water. Then again, I'm a blond man.

After the promo monkeys at NBC showed that Devon was okay in the previews after the episode where it looked like he was a dead man, I've refused to watch the promos.

Is it March 1st yet?

Old 02-10-10 | 10:05 AM
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

Well this is a really good read. It put my mind at ease on some things, but their hedgeyness on other things was irritating. Their unwillingness to admit to some things was annoying since it wouldn't 'spoil' anything.

You may as well call this a mini episode. Chuck vs the Backlash. http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2010/0...ntroversy.html

Bad picture too zeke. I'd go with something such as this:

Old 02-10-10 | 12:37 PM
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

Originally Posted by Superman07
You may as well call this a mini episode. Chuck vs the Backlash. http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2010/0...ntroversy.html
I liked the title to the LA Times blog about the fan response

New 'Chuck' romances destroy television, life itself
Old 02-10-10 | 01:31 PM
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

Chuck is my favorite show on TV. This nerd rage is brilliant. I want more.

The NBC/Chuck forums are too good for words.

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Old 02-10-10 | 01:59 PM
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

The backlash is horseshit. Those people need to chill the fuck out.
Old 02-10-10 | 02:01 PM
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

Amen to that. Sit back and enjoy the ride, it's not like this is Heroes or something.
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

Originally Posted by LickTheABCs
The NBC/Chuck forums are too good for words.
I could only spend three minutes on that thread.

Jesus wept.
Old 02-10-10 | 02:11 PM
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That thread is fucking ridiculous. I went through 3-4 pages and had to quit out of disgust with the nonsense those fairweather Chuck fans were posting.
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

My problem isn't with where they are taking the characters, but how they're doing it. I keep telling myself this is the result of an original 13 episode season, but it still sucks. I just can't buy that both Chuck and Sarah are so quick to give up on each other. It doesn't jive with the characters we've come to know over 2 seasons.
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

Did these same people freak out in season 2 when Chuck was seeing Jill?

I still think by the end of this season, Sarah and Chuck will finally admit their feelings to each other. Then it will be a reverse of the 2nd season situation - Sarah/Chuck's cover is that they are friends, but in reality they are a couple. That would be the ideal way to continue the show, IMO.
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

Originally Posted by Superman07
My problem isn't with where they are taking the characters, but how they're doing it. I keep telling myself this is the result of an original 13 episode season, but it still sucks. I just can't buy that both Chuck and Sarah are so quick to give up on each other. It doesn't jive with the characters we've come to know over 2 seasons.
Honestly, if I were Chuck I would have told Sarah to take a flying fuck during the season premiere. And if someone like Hannah came into my life I certainly wouldn't pine away for the girl that gives me a cold shoulder ever time I get close to her.

And from Sarah's perspective...she doesn't think she can have (or deserves) Chuck, so she goes for the safe spy dude that has worked for her in the past.

I'm fine with what they are doing, and anyone who doesn't think that Chuck and Sarah will eventually end up together has never seen a TV show before.
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

What's with Sarah falling for almost every Male Spy she works with? This is the third that I can remember. I know they are going for a will they wont they thing with Sarah and Chuck, but it's getting old.
I like that they are giving Elle and Morgan something to do as well.

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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

It's pretty funny considering Schwartz has said in an interview if they get a fourth season

Spoiler:
Chuck and Sarah will be a couple
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

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It's pretty funny considering Schwartz has said in an interview if they get a fourth season

Spoiler:
Chuck and Sarah will be a couple
or, I dunno, the fact that they're guest stars should give it away that these relationships aren't going to last..

God damn, these people are fuckin' annoying.
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Originally Posted by Superman07
You win.
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10



Just for fun.
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Re: Chuck -- "Chuck Versus the Mask" -- 02/08/10

Now Zachary and Adam are talking about it, with Zachary showing the perfect way to handle the situation.

Originally Posted by Zachary Levi
So what's all this hubbub I'm hearin about the last ep?
http://twitter.com/ZacharyLevi/status/8944688586

Originally Posted by Adam Baldwin
@ZacharyLevi 'Hubub'?!: "Chuck: Schwartz and Fedak vs. the controversy..."
http://twitter.com/adamsbaldwin/status/8944909585

Originally Posted by Zachary Levi
Hmmm, I see. Question: did anyone think that Han would be stuck in carbonite forever at the end of Empire?
http://twitter.com/ZacharyLevi/status/8950160194

And a big spoiler picture from an upcoming episode:
Spoiler:

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