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Found this link off of Rainn Wilson's twitter:



It actually blew my mind how calculated the writing and delivery is for the later inclusion of the laugh track.

It's also a bit sad when you look back at an older show like M*A*S*H where the laugh track was a studio mandate and actually makes the show hard to watch.

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Why would it blow your mind? It's a perfectly logical way to structure the show. Actors do the same thing with a live studio audience - they pause during big laughs before delivering the next line.

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Eh, the pauses in that clip seem a lot longer than stuff I've seen from some live audience shows. I get the concept of pausing for the big laugh, but it seems like they expected the big laugh at least four times in that clip.

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By the way, I agree with you on M*A*S*H. The laugh track is unnecessary and cringe-inducing.

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I only see two unnecessarily long pauses in that scene. Of course, two in that time span is bad enough. I think the other two pauses are actually probably related to the way that show is structured and the awkwardness of the characters. That's from seeing the show maybe 5-6 times (mostly thanks to TiVo -- I love it when it finds something I don't usually watch that is watchable).

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This is not pre-laugh track. The laughs have just been dubbed out. BBT is filmed in front of a studio audience, so the laughs are real. Listen carefully & you'll notice all background noise is removed between lines (as well as the laughs). You can even hear some laughter over one of the lines near the end when the dialouge starts back up for the line "there, problem solved".

I hate laugh tracks as much as anybody but there's a world of difference when the laugh track is inserted vs. people actually laughing in the studio.

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Ah, well that makes sense. My mistake.

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People actually laughed at that?

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There's definitely a difference between the two, but I don't know how authentic the laughter is from a studio audience when there's an applause sign telling them when to laugh.

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Wow, that clip made me appreciate Arrested Development, The Office, 30 Rock, Scrubs, etc... even more than I already do.

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The only good show with a laugh track was Seinfeld.

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The dvd series lets you chooose a non laughing soundtrack.

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Amen to that.


All in the Family was great as well. Often, even during a huge laugh, the actors would just power on through to the next line.

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Which is awesome. If only they had done the same for the first season of Sports Night.

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To be fair, M*A*S*H's producers fought CBS tooth-and-nail about the laugh track. The only concession they ever got was no laugh track in the OR sequences.


I'd include Taxi and Cheers on that list. Those were two great shows filmed in front of a live studio audience.

You've got to remember that the one camera, filmed on closed set sitcom is a relativity new thing. You can't hold it against older shows that they have genuine laugh tracks, as that's how it was done. These days it seems archaic (like when Scrubs tried the technique in a Cheers tribute), but back in the Seventies and Eighties, it was standard practice. Now it's just standard on CBS.

If you want to really appreciate a laugh track, watch an old Brady Bunch episode. Not only is the laughter obviously canned and added later, but it usually comes in the total absence of any joke -- as if any mildly pithy comment would erupt waves of hysterical laughter.

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I'm not exactly sure what this clip is supposed to prove???

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I never heard about that. Pretty cool that they would give that option.

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The episode of 8 Simple Rules for Dating My Teenage Daughter they did without a laugh track after John Ritter died was incredibly awkward.

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Fuck that, Titus fucking owned.

And I think you mean "live studio audience," and not "laugh track." As has been pointed out, M*A*S*H had a laugh track, as have many other quality shows that had a laugh track, either against or according to the producers' wishes.

Not true. Leave it to Beaver was a one-camera, closed-set sitcom. Also, shows like The Beverly Hillbillies, The Andy Griffith Show, and My Three Sons.

Of course, the more fantastical sitcoms were one-camera shows as well, like Bewitched, I Dream of Jeanie, and Mr. Ed.

All these shows had laugh-tracks though, so maybe what you meant was that the one-camera laugh-track-free sitcom is relatively new. Shows like The Monkees and Sledge Hammer dropped their laugh tracks partway through their runs, but a one-camera sitcom that aired from the beginning without a laugh-track didn't really gain steam until the 90s.

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Thank you. That's what I meant -- the single camera, closed set, canned laughter-free sitcom. For the longest time the networks wouldn't allow comedies to air without laugh tracks for fear that the audience wouldn't know where the jokes are (a legit fear for a bulk of the crappy sitcoms on the air -- my daughter watches those Disney Channel sitcoms and I'm stunned at what the "audience" is laughing at, literally every other line).

I think The Wonder Years might have been the first one I was aware of. Either that or The Simpsons, not sure which came first.

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The applause sign is used more for talk shows like Leno, and they're used more to tell people when not to applaud.

For sitcoms, at least for the one I went to, you're not told when to laugh. The applause sign would go on at act breaks, but again it's done more to let the audience know when its OK to make noise than telling them "hey laugh at this!"

If they want a laugh for a certain joke, they go in during post and "sweeten" the laughs with a track.

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You're obviously not familiar with Sheldon or The Big Bang Theory. Within the context of the show, this scene is hilarious.

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The problem isn't confined to TV shows. There are lots of movies where the editors leave long pauses after laugh-lines, anticipating that the theater audiences would be yucking it up. The problem is, it's awkward when you're watching the film on TV.

A perfect example is inSpaceballs, during the "Comb the desert!" scene -- when the black guy says, "I ain't found shit," the camera lingers on him extra long.

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I'm no expert on the show, but as a casual viewer who gets what makes it a funny scene, it's not quite as hilarious as a couple of those pauses make it out to be.

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^there's also the scene in Airplane, where Kareem goes off on the kid. The directors admit they held on the kid for a while to make room for the riotous laughter in the theaters

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I always thought that scene was "long" just for the reaction on the kids face.

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The Wonder Years premiered in 1988, While The Simpsons did in 1989. The Simpsons did start as a series of shorts on The Tracey Ullman show in 1987.

Regardless of which was first, The Simpsons is a good example of one genre of TV where the use of the laugh-track has almost universally be removed, animated show. Before The Simpsons, a lot of animated shows had laugh tracks, like The Flinstones, The Jetsons, Scooby Doo, etc. I can't think of [b]any[b] current animated show that has a laugh track.

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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092373/

I thought Hooperman might be the first.
They called it a dramedy back then.

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I'm a fan of Big Bang Theory, but I do think they go overboard with the audience laughter relative to other modern shows... it's annoying when a joke falls flat but you still have to hear several rounds of riotous laughter before the dialog continues.

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Did Seinfeld have a laugh track? I thought it was a live audience.

There are many scenes in Seinfeld where the actors have to wait for a very long time for the laughter to die down before they go on with their lines. In a lot of situations it almost looks like they try to say the next line, but can't because the laughing is still going on.

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Seinfeld was a live audience for the general, on-set locations. It used a laugh track for exteriors and location shots, which there were a lot of.

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I always hated that about Seinfeld. I've always thought the off set scenes were very poorly done. Bad body doubles, bad voice editing, etc.

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It seems some people don't understand that a laugh track and a live audience are not synonymous.

Exactly. There's even an interview tidbit on one of the dvds about how they had to tell the audience not to go overboard when Kramer entered Seinfeld's apartment.

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I remember that. I think Jerry was a little upset about that.

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People in this forum are constantly accusing shows that don't have laugh tracks of having them, and vice-versa. And it's often people that should know better. It's mind-boggling. I guess it's a tribute to the shows themselves that they can fool so many.

Case in point, the OP.

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One of the docs I saw mentioned they showed some of the stuff not done on set to the audience to record their reactions. I think it was part of the Season 6 or 7 extras.

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The first season of Sports Night had a laugh track forced upon it. Mercifully it was gone Season 2. Too bad that DVD set doesn't have a choice of tracks.

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We did the whole M*A*S*H series last year without the laugh track, and it made an incredible difference. Towards a latter season, there's a two part episode where they didn't have the original films and had to use a broadcast master with the laugh track and it stuck out like a sore thumb. When we catch an OTA ep now after doing the whole series "clean", it's like night and day.

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They can't remove the laughter from the first season of Sports Night because it's from a live studio audience, not a laugh track.

http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/i...ng_the_pi.html

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That's pretty surprising as it sounds very much like a laugh-track added after the fact, as the way the audience laughter would cut off right when the next line of dialog began.