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MrX 11-29-09 10:04 AM

Dexter - "Lost Boys" - 11/29/09
 
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"Lost Boys"
Spoiler:
Dexter finally believes he understands the beast known as Trinity. But when a ten-year-old boy goes missing, Dexter is forced to question everything he's learned up to this point. It's a race against the clock. And with each step forward, Dexter has to confront the real possibility that he may have more in common with Trinity than he'd like to admit. Secrets abound - from Cody, who is forced to defend one of Dexter's lies, Masuka, who can't bring himself to confess what he witnessed at Thanksgiving, and Debra, whose recent discoveries force one of Miami's finest into making an impossible decision


2 more episodes left in the season after tonight

EdTheRipper 11-29-09 10:15 AM

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Looking very forward to tonight's episode.

Blu Man 11-29-09 12:43 PM

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Pumped for this episode. I haven't been this excited for a TV episode in a long time.

Coral 11-29-09 12:45 PM

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Lost Boys? Shit, they're going with a vampire theme now as well? ;)

slideways 11-29-09 08:57 PM

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ARGH!!! my receiver isn't recording tonights ep. but instead is recording it on Tuesday. DTV...WTH gives????

Jazzbutcher 11-29-09 09:00 PM

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Good episode! Can't wait for the final two. I just wish they wouldn't give away so much in the upcoming scenes.

Spoiler:

like Trinity coming to the police station

EdTheRipper 11-29-09 09:09 PM

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Another really solid episode. This has been an amazing season.

majorjoe23 11-29-09 09:53 PM

Re: Dexter - "Lost Boys" - 11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by slideways (Post 9861734)
ARGH!!! my receiver isn't recording tonights ep. but instead is recording it on Tuesday. DTV...WTH gives????

Same thing that happened to me. I went out to walk the dog, came back 10 minutes into the episode and it hadn't recorded.

clckworang 11-29-09 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tdirgins (Post 9861744)
Good episode! Can't wait for the final two. I just wish they wouldn't give away so much in the upcoming scenes.

Spoiler:

like Trinity coming to the police station

I agree, those upcoming scenes gave away a lot. But I have to admit that it made me want to see those next 2 episodes RIGHT NOW!!

Like many here, I was very skeptical about how they were going to be able to drag this storyline out for the duration of the season, especially considering how quickly things were developing earlier in the season, but they have certainly kept a great tempo. Now I wish there were more than just 2 episodes left! Like Jimmy Smits last season, John Lithgow has really brought a lot to this season. It will be tough when/if we lose him from the show.

PopcornTreeCt 11-29-09 11:34 PM

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Great episode. Love seeing Dexter go into hero mode.

bluetoast 11-30-09 12:04 AM

Re: Dexter - "Lost Boys" - 11/29/09
 
Holy shit what an episode! And I agree, those previews make me want to see the next two immediately.

Larry C. 11-30-09 12:09 AM

Re: Dexter - "Lost Boys" - 11/29/09
 
This show just keeps getting better and better. Love it...

dino88 11-30-09 03:04 AM

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Big spoiler in the preview, so if you didn't see or notice it DO NOT READ.
Spoiler:
Trinity's daughter/reporter dead in the bloody bathtub. I was actually guessing this was how tonight's episode was going to end, but then figured she was safe after they arrested her. Guess not. That's going to be extra creepy if he gets in the tub with her. Or she may do it herself???

Doc Moonlight 11-30-09 08:32 AM

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I remember a few years ago, when Lithgow won one of his Emmies for "30 Rock" he was belittling himself for winning an award for broad comedy. I think this year he's got a real shot at winning one for drama.

Geofferson 11-30-09 09:17 AM

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Awesome episode last night -- kept the momentum from last week's. Overall, I think this season has been pretty solid. It started off strong, stumbled for a few episodes in the middle, but has picked up steam here with the final episodes.

kgrogers1979 11-30-09 10:24 AM

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When they get the DNA off of the reporter's toothbrush, how are they able to match it and determine that she is related to Trinity when they never got Trinity's DNA?

superfro 11-30-09 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 9862047)
Great episode. Love seeing Dexter go into hero mode.

I don't. :(

I really liked the way they were going with the Trinity stuff and Dex completely planting himself in his personal life, as it was a completely unexpected twist, which is kind of on par for the Dexter storytelling. However the way it's playing out now is a bit odd to me. Way too comic-booky. All of a sudden it's Batman vs. Joker or something. Even down to Dexter hitting Arthur with the shovel, saving the boy, and turning around to find Arthur gone. Really? He wouldn't have attempted to stop Dexter with his back turned? Then Dex just returns home at night after a crazy day at the office with the child napping thing all wrapped up with a nice bow. Oh our zany serial killer superhero! What a crazy day! :rolleyes:

I'm hoping this episode was just a speed bump to how the final 2 shows play out.

Groucho 11-30-09 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 9862434)
When they get the DNA off of the reporter's toothbrush, how are they able to match it and determine that she is related to Trinity when they never got Trinity's DNA?

They have Trinity's DNA from the saliva in the ash. Remember the big sweep they were doing?

kgrogers1979 11-30-09 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 9862453)
They have Trinity's DNA from the saliva in the ash. Remember the big sweep they were doing?

I remember the sweep when they had checkpoints set up where they were taking DNA samples from older men, and "Kyle" warned Trinity about them so that he was able to avoid them.

I don't remember the saliva in the ash though.

superfro 11-30-09 10:45 AM

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I did love that the murders were a pattern of 4 though. That was a great little twist/revelation last night.

Slumbering Fist 11-30-09 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 9862469)
I don't remember the saliva in the ash though.

They even included it in the opening "previously on Dexter" recap... The sweeps would have been utterly pointless if they didnt know whose DNA they were looking for.

Good episode. Most of the complaints seem to be putting a tad too much reality into it. Its a fine line as the show is definitely not realistic but also not fantasy. Thats why I also call it a pulp show. Dexter always skews realism if it is to the benefit of some kind of audience-serving action (thrills, moving the plot faster, etc).

Raul3 11-30-09 02:05 PM

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Yeah I loved the episode too.

And agree, Dexter can't be 100% realistic, it has never been. But this season it's going more for a pulp show, taking more liberties. That's fine for me, I'm not looking for a 100% realistic show.

superfro 11-30-09 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Slumbering Fist (Post 9862557)
Dexter always skews realism if it is to the benefit of some kind of audience-serving action (thrills, moving the plot faster, etc).

I can get behind this, but I felt the conclusion of last night was at the price of dragging the story out. Maybe it also adds more drama, but I didn't see that as serving the audience.

Also, what was done with the boy? How did he get home? How did the scene get taken care of? None of the end made sense to me. It was all just wrapped up entirely off screen with no clarifcation and topped off with it already being a feel good ending on the news by the time Dexter got home. Really?

vman69 11-30-09 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 9862469)
I don't remember the saliva in the ash though.

He had to lick his thumb to put the ash on the wall.

Jeremy517 11-30-09 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by superfro (Post 9862849)
Also, what was done with the boy? How did he get home? How did the scene get taken care of? None of the end made sense to me. It was all just wrapped up entirely off screen with no clarifcation and topped off with it already being a feel good ending on the news by the time Dexter got home. Really?

I assume he eventually woke up and got himself out of the bag the rest of the way. The boy couldn't be allowed to see Dexter when he woke up, so presumably Dexter was just watching from a distance to make sure that Trinity never came back.

Another possibility is that it could have been just as simple as Dexter making an anonymous 911 call from a nearby pay phone.

What happened after in between Dexter getting him out/Trinity leaving and the boy being reunited with his parents wasn't really important.

Groucho 11-30-09 02:42 PM

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On recent episode, they showed Dexter leaving his house. In the very next scene, they were inside the police station and he came out of the elevator. How did he get from his house to the elevator? Did he just teleport in there?

superfro 11-30-09 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy517 (Post 9862882)
What happened after in between Dexter getting him out/Trinity leaving and the boy being reunited with his parents wasn't really important.

Considering the boy would have a full description of Arthur and made his "escape" from the site of a house he was working on, I would think it would be. It's just completely sloppy when they're dealing with a guy that's already in the crosshairs. Of course I'm sure he'll be dead soon enough anyhow. I guess I'll see how they close it up in the next few shows.

SexualPudding 11-30-09 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 9862889)
On recent episode, they showed Dexter leaving his house. In the very next scene, they were inside the police station and he came out of the elevator. How did he get from his house to the elevator? Did he just teleport in there?

I lol'ed.

SexualPudding 11-30-09 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by superfro (Post 9862890)
Considering the boy would have a full description of Arthur and made his "escape" from the site of a house he was working on, I would think it would be. It's just completely sloppy when they're dealing with a guy that's already in the crosshairs. Of course I'm sure he'll be dead soon enough anyhow. I guess I'll see how they close it up in the next few shows.

We'll just have to wait and see. The stuff you mentioned could very well be something that plays out in the next episode.

clckworang 11-30-09 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by superfro (Post 9862890)
Considering the boy would have a full description of Arthur and made his "escape" from the site of a house he was working on, I would think it would be. It's just completely sloppy when they're dealing with a guy that's already in the crosshairs. Of course I'm sure he'll be dead soon enough anyhow. I guess I'll see how they close it up in the next few shows.

I think you're placing too much importance on the boy. He was there to show a wrinkle in Trinity's pattern that we didn't otherwise see and gave an opportunity to show Dexter (and the audience) part of the difference between him and Trinity. It doesn't really matter that the boy can give a description of Trinity, especially since the police already have his DNA and his daughter in custody. Focusing more on the boy's story, especially the aftermath, shifts the focus too much away from Dexter and Trinity, who are the primary driving force of the show. This is Dexter, not another CSI or Law & Order. We don't need to know all that other stuff.

superfro 11-30-09 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by clckworang (Post 9863121)
I think you're placing too much importance on the boy. He was there to show a wrinkle in Trinity's pattern that we didn't otherwise see and gave an opportunity to show Dexter (and the audience) part of the difference between him and Trinity. It doesn't really matter that the boy can give a description of Trinity, especially since the police already have his DNA and his daughter in custody. Focusing more on the boy's story, especially the aftermath, shifts the focus too much away from Dexter and Trinity, who are the primary driving force of the show. This is Dexter, not another CSI or Law & Order. We don't need to know all that other stuff.

I know why it was there, and liked it actually. I just think it was poorly done. That's my problem with the whole thing. It made sense why it was there, and the act of it happening was important, but the resolution was kind of shit. I found it lazy and irritating. But honestly it's the villainesque Arthur disappearing act while Dexter's back was turned that was the most nonsensical. It was just a lot of factors that hit me all at once that made the show, which is usually not very pedestrian, all of a sudden feel like just another CSI or Law & Order. The Trinity they've shown us thus far would've come to, knocked out Dexter, finished his job, and then did whatever with Dex afterwards. It made no sense for the character IMO. That's really more my issue than the boy, it's just all wrapped up in to them not having any sort of an ending for that scenario other than "Dexter goes home". Again though...I'll see how they wrap it all up. Maybe they'll explain Arthur taking off. I still love the show. :cool:

Jeremy517 11-30-09 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by clckworang (Post 9863121)
It doesn't really matter that the boy can give a description of Trinity, especially since the police already have his DNA and his daughter in custody.

The boy cannot give a description of Trinity, he can only give a description of a kidnapper. The police haven't tied the two together; only Dexter has. The boy wouldn't have been anywhere near Detective Deb or anyone working the Trinity case, he would have been with a detective working who was working on the missing persons case. There was no need to show us any of that.

Coral 11-30-09 08:04 PM

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Great episode.

I still don't like the angle of the reporter being the shooter. And it still doesn't make sense why she put Trinity at risk with that article. Maybe they'll give us reasons in the next episode... and it better be good.

I agree that the whole hitting Trinity with a shovel, save the boy, Trinity disappearing is lame. Either Dexter hits him enough to knock him out, or Trinity fights back when Dexter goes for the kid... the combo they gave doesn't work.

Someone called it a few threads back that there may be a 4th victim in the cycle. Good call.

It looks like Deb investigating Moser may be back on going by Harry's CI/love interest coming back this episode. It also looks like the kid seeing Dexter leaving the camp thingie may bite him in the ass soon.

We may just have a few suspicious eyes on Dexter next season. Should be a doozy.

dsa_shea 11-30-09 09:20 PM

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I'm starting to wonder after just watching the episode if Trinity doesn't take Dexter out somehow by the end of this season. He may not kill him but might put him into a corner that he can't get out of.

Osiris3657 11-30-09 09:51 PM

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This season is really ending on a strong note...can't wait to see what the writers do with the final two episodes.

Blu Man 11-30-09 09:56 PM

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This episode was good, but I think last weeks was better. However, next week and the season finale look like they will be incredible. This season is just good and maybe even better then the first season.



Originally Posted by dsa_shea (Post 9863552)
I'm starting to wonder after just watching the episode if Trinity doesn't take Dexter out somehow by the end of this season. He may not kill him but might put him into a corner that he can't get out of.

No, doubt it. The show hasn't been scheduled to end. And Dexter dieing, or being put in jail would definetly end the show.

Poink 11-30-09 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 9863416)
I still don't like the angle of the reporter being the shooter. And it still doesn't make sense why she put Trinity at risk with that article. Maybe they'll give us reasons in the next episode... and it better be good.

Christine (the reporter) doesn't REALLY know everything about her father; she witnessed one of his bathtub killings as a child, and it was only when it happened again that she was able to know "for sure" that what she witnessed was real. She likely has no idea about his "cycle" or anything of that sort. The article that she wrote that seemed to infuriate Arthur last episode was about the murder with the hammer; which to her was just a completely unrelated killing.

I'm still putting my bet on the cops catching Arthur before Dexter gets to him. With a side order of Arthur going after Cody due to being denied killing the kid in this episode. It's anyone's guess where it goes from here though...

dino88 11-30-09 11:31 PM

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^I'm almost positive she knows everything about her dad, Trinity, and the cycle. She's been following his every step lately.

MrX 12-01-09 12:53 AM

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I thought it was good.

I liked was happy all the Rita, Angel/LaGuerta, and Deb issues got put on the back burner this episode.

DeputyDave 12-01-09 03:17 AM

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Those of you who are complaining about Trinity simply running while Dexter saved the boy must have never been knocked by a shovel to the head before. I have been knocked out before and there was no way I could have continued to fight or anything else. In reality the only thing he would have been thinking about was getting away, not continuing a fight with a healthy man, half his age, who has twice proven he can kick Trinity's ass.


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