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Old 11-19-09 | 09:02 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Ballad" -- 11/18/09

I just came in to say,
Spoiler:
”I have to go or they’re going to think I’m pooping.”
Old 11-19-09 | 09:03 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Ballad" -- 11/18/09

Yup, the original song would have definitely been the opposite of what Will wanted, but by changing just one word, it worked perfectly.
Old 11-19-09 | 10:42 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Ballad" -- 11/18/09

Originally Posted by brayzie
I didn't know she said, "You're the babies daddy."

I still don't see how it's not messed up.

She's okay with Quinn lying to Finn to make him think it's his baby when it's not.

She admits that Quinn chose Finn, despite it being Puck's child.

Puck needs to accept that Quinn is choosing to lie about the babies father?

Puck messed up Quinn's life? Mercedes is not privy to how it happened, so why would she accuse him of messing up her life, when normally it's a mutual act?

You say that as if a man has any real rights or say when he knocks up a chick.
Old 11-20-09 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by The Infidel
Mercedes differentiates...someone who, even if the secret comes out to everyone, will love the baby like it's his own and provide for it, because he cares for Quinn and doesn't shirk his responsibilities.
But she doesn't know if he'll still take care of the baby if the secret is out, not to mention he's a nice guy but he doesn't even have a job unlike Puck.


She's not saying accept the lie itself, but accept that Quinn has chosen a father for her baby
That sounds pretty strange and wrong. She's saying that Puck should be an accomplice in the deceit by keeping his silence.

I think when she said he "messed up her life", she was referring to the simple fact that Puck got her pregnant
Again, pretty messed up since she's accusing him of messing up Quinn's life when she was also a partner in the choice to have sex.

They may not know every little detail about each other, and sometimes they act without knowing all the facts, but they're trying.
Oh, I get that, but it's still messed up, despite the characters good intentions. Obviously Puck is hurting because Quinn doesn't want him in their child's life.
Old 11-20-09 | 01:26 AM
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You say that as if a man has any real rights or say when he knocks up a chick.
Or when he doesn't in Finn's case.
Old 11-20-09 | 02:10 AM
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Re: Glee -- "Ballad" -- 11/18/09

Originally Posted by brayzie
...but it's still messed up, despite the characters good intentions. Obviously Puck is hurting because Quinn doesn't want him in their child's life.
I agree, the whole situation is definitely messed up, and it's affecting lots of people in less than good ways. But your initial statements made it seem like there was some evil intent to purposely deceive everyone involved for no good reason, and I just think that's putting a bit too much into the interpretation of the whole scenario.

Puck, in his own way, is hurting, there's no doubt about that. He may be a bit of a smarmy douchebag, but I think he really cares about Quinn, and he wants to do the right thing, he's just not completely sure how to go about it. He is who he is, and he's going to have to do some changing before he can win over Quinn. Quinn cares about Puck, too. You can see it in the way she looks at him from time to time. Not wanting to say the show is predictable in any way, but I really believe they're going to wind up together in the end. Or maybe not. This show is constantly surprising me at every turn.

With the whole Puck/Quinn/Finn thing, like I said before, they're young, and with youth comes fickleness. You think you're head over heels in love with someone, but someone comes along who just blows you away in a whole new way, and it's incredibly easy to forget about what you loved about the first person in the first place. Sometimes it's not so easy, and that's the kind of things they're dealing with here.

People lie, or just "hold the truth back" for whatever reason, no matter whether we're high school kids or seasoned adults out in the world. We feel the reason or reasons are for the best, especially when we're trying to protect someone. A lot of times that backfires, and only more hurt results. But that's life. Those are the lessons we learn when we're trying to figure out who we are, and how we deal with what life throws at us.

That's what going on with the kids of the Glee Club right now.

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Old 11-20-09 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by The Infidel
I agree, the whole situation is definitely messed up, and it's affecting lots of people in less than good ways. But your initial statements made it seem like there was some evil intent to purposely deceive everyone involved for no good reason, and I just think that's putting a bit too much into the interpretation of the whole scenario.
I get you what you're saying now. My bad on the way I came across.

That said the show just gets better.
I'm happy that Rachel got a chance to be playful and actually smile instead of being mopey.

I also thought that the Pepper angle was going to turn into A VERY SERIOUS EPISODE of GLEE, especially with that background music. Pleasant surprise.
Old 11-20-09 | 03:29 AM
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Re: Glee -- "Ballad" -- 11/18/09

Originally Posted by brayzie
Or when he doesn't in Finn's case.
That's my point; and pretty much what Mercedes was saying.
Old 11-20-09 | 09:20 AM
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Really like the way they handle the "previously on Glee" bit at the opening of each episode. No nonsense, narrated and only the relevant parts. Kinda like the way a friend would quickly fill you in. Nice.
Old 11-20-09 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by The Infidel
...With the whole Puck/Quinn/Finn thing, like I said before, they're young, and with youth comes fickleness. You think you're head over heels in love with someone, but someone comes along who just blows you away...
Or even just blows you.
Old 11-20-09 | 10:09 AM
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Old 11-20-09 | 12:16 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Ballad" -- 11/18/09

I waited the whole episode for Kurt to sing his song to Finn. At least we know what the song was going to be and Finn got the message anyway, but I really wanted to see it done in song.
Old 11-22-09 | 02:13 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Ballad" -- 11/18/09

Originally Posted by shaun3000
I just came in to say,
Spoiler:
”I have to go or they’re going to think I’m pooping.”
Best line of the night.
Old 11-22-09 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rkndkn
I waited the whole episode for Kurt to sing his song to Finn. At least we know what the song was going to be and Finn got the message anyway, but I really wanted to see it done in song.
I really wanted to see that too.
Old 11-23-09 | 08:08 AM
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I was hoping the Quinn pregnancy secret was going to go on for a while, because I kept wondering how she intended to keep it from her parents, especially in the last trimester.
Old 11-23-09 | 02:40 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Ballad" -- 11/18/09

I still find it ridiculous especially these days that a kid would fall for getting a girl pregnant in a hottub without penetration. Forget glee club, Finn needs to sign up for sex education classes.

And I hope those two don't get married. I mean really...they will be Finn and Quinn as a couple.
Old 11-23-09 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by big whoppa
I still find it ridiculous especially these days that a kid would fall for getting a girl pregnant in a hottub without penetration. Forget glee club, Finn needs to sign up for sex education classes.
It is EXTREMELY unlikely but technically possible:

Can pregnancy occur if ejaculation takes place in water? It is not likely that tiny sperm could travel through the vast area of water that would fill a pool, bath tub or hot tub to reach the vagina and result in pregnancy. If ejaculation occurred in plain warm water, sperm could survive for a few minutes. If ejaculation occurs in very hot water, or water filled with pool chemicals, bubbles or other substances, sperm would not be able to survive for more than a few seconds. Pregnancy occurring from this is very unlikely and in most cases is not possible at all.

http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pre...yfaqmyths.html
Old 11-24-09 | 02:23 AM
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Re: Glee -- "Ballad" -- 11/18/09

I think Finn has a small clue about it, considering he tried to tell her dad "We didn't even have sex". Finn's problem is he just simply doesn't think Quinn could possibly have been with someone else, so if she's pregnant, it has to be his. He's uneducated in these matters, and he's trusting in what Quinn wants him to believe, to the point of gullibility.

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