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DJariya 11-05-09 01:26 PM

Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
<a href="http://s110.photobucket.com/albums/n104/djariya/?action=view&current=FlashForward.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n104/djariya/FlashForward.jpg" border="0" alt="Flash Foward"></a>

Synopsis:

Spoiler:


An MI6 agent (Alex Kingston) helps Mark, Demetri and Gough investigate a Blue Hand club and its possible link to some suicides. In other events, a former Army pal of Aaron's daughter visits him; Demetri confesses to Zoey about his blank flash-forward; and Nicole and Bryce figure out the mystery of his vision while volunteering at the hospital.



Actually sounds like an interesting episode that will answer some questions.

pinata242 11-05-09 01:30 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
Callum Keith Rennie :drool:

MrX 11-05-09 08:00 PM

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/MrX23/sleep.jpg

whotony 11-05-09 08:44 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
"Actually sounds like an interesting episode that will answer some questions."

No answers just more questions.

Good episode this week.
finally some character stuff that was interesting.

Deftones 11-05-09 09:10 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
yeah, it was actually pretty decent. so now we know you can change the future.

Groucho 11-05-09 10:08 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
Best episode since the pilot. Not hard to do, but still...

SmithsGuy 11-05-09 10:12 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
Very interesting. My wife said, how bout now they just stop investigating and go onward...

Draven 11-05-09 10:29 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
Nice episode - loving this show more and more every week.

Interesting they killed off Jett Jackson. Puts a nice twist on things.

MLBFan24 11-05-09 11:15 PM

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great episode. More like this please.

dom56 11-05-09 11:42 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
I type in www.alreadyghosts.com and just take me to the show site. Lame.

Good episode.

Neeb 11-06-09 01:13 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
Improved. But still kind of limping along...

gmanca 11-06-09 04:00 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 9819552)
Best episode since the pilot. Not hard to do, but still...

Agreed; As much as they want to make Dominic Monaghan and Jack Davenport the bad guys, it'd be really interesting to see them not go that route. If they did an experiment without knowing it would cause a blackout, what can they really be charged with?

The whole Already Ghosts/nihilist stuff was pretty good.

SteelWill 11-06-09 07:14 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
This was a decent episode, and I'm glad it was finally established that the future can be changed, but it lost points from me by using such a contrived & overly dramatic event to do it. Plus the last thing this show needs is less characters who are actually interesting.

Draven 11-06-09 07:39 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by SteelWill (Post 9819930)
This was a decent episode, and I'm glad it was finally established that the future can be changed, but it lost points from me by using such a contrived & overly dramatic event to do it. Plus the last thing this show needs is less characters who are actually interesting.

But isn't that one of the only ways something like that could be proven right now? The alternative is just to wait until FlashForward day to prove anything, and by then it might be too late.

And remember that he found out his actions between now and then killed someone and made their kids orphans. He decided to take his own life instead of risking hers. Seemed pretty noble to me actually.

Timber 11-06-09 11:26 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
The geek in me is question whether the future would self correct and the mother would die a different way. I doubt they would go that route but still.

Groucho 11-06-09 11:30 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by Timber (Post 9820377)
The geek in me is question whether the future would self correct and the mother would die a different way. I doubt they would go that route but still.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/661...ayl8573077.jpg

"Whatever happened, happened."

Patman 11-06-09 11:55 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
Can they kill off the Gabrielle Union character, please?

Draven 11-06-09 01:20 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by Patman (Post 9820433)
Can they kill off the Gabrielle Union character, please?

Good god no. She's the best-looking one on the show.

SteelWill 11-06-09 01:23 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 9819964)
But isn't that one of the only ways something like that could be proven right now? The alternative is just to wait until FlashForward day to prove anything, and by then it might be too late.

And remember that he found out his actions between now and then killed someone and made their kids orphans. He decided to take his own life instead of risking hers. Seemed pretty noble to me actually.

Killing yourself is a pretty damn drastic move for something you *might* do in the future that apparently is an accident. If the guy was suicidal anyway and this put him over the edge then fine, but they gave no indication of that. It just strikes me as sloppy writing & cheap shock value.

Patman 11-06-09 01:29 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 9820665)
Good god no. She's the best-looking one on the show.

Kinda sad, that being the case.

DJariya 11-06-09 01:30 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 9820665)
Good god no. She's the best-looking one on the show.

I like her, but personally for me Peyton List is the hottest one of the show.

jonnyquest 11-06-09 01:37 PM

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I see his suicide as majorly selfless act. Not only to save Celia, but to give a giant dose of hope to those who experienced a problematic FlashForward.
But, on the flipside, it could be a bummer to those who had a pleasant FlashForward.

AtomicFyre 11-06-09 07:41 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
I honestly thought for a second he was going to jump off the building and land on top of the mom as the future corrected itself. I think that might have been a bit too bleak though and slightly funny.

chrisih8u 11-06-09 08:08 PM

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Maybe she will have a flash forward now.

whotony 11-06-09 11:12 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by chrisih8u (Post 9821477)
Maybe she will have a flash forward now.

How?

chrisih8u 11-06-09 11:27 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by whotony (Post 9821713)
How?

I dont know. Maybe when the FBI agent died, she passes out and has a flash forward since she might live now. Just a guess.

Jadzia 11-07-09 12:46 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by AtomicFyre (Post 9821449)
I honestly thought for a second he was going to jump off the building and land on top of the mom

I thought the same thing :lol:

mnementh 11-07-09 04:08 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
Is the bird crashing into Alex Kingston's window a sign that another experiment takes place in the future?

Giantrobo 11-08-09 05:06 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
That was a really good ep. I really liked that young agent and I hated to see him go.

I'm so confused about the DWP guy's daughter. She's Alive! No, she's dead...Wait! She's Alive!! No wait, false alarm....

Alex Kingston :drool: Oh how I've missed you.

johnglass 11-08-09 08:24 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by Jadzia (Post 9821797)
I thought the same thing :lol:

Same here.

calhoun07 11-08-09 10:55 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by mnementh (Post 9821869)
Is the bird crashing into Alex Kingston's window a sign that another experiment takes place in the future?

Only if the show gets renewed for a second season. Seriously...I am not joking. At least that's my guess. I read that they have the story line planned to wrap up this season if it only goes one season, but if they continue the show, there will be a second flash forward, and the bird may be a foreshadowing of that. It makes sense that their flash forward would take them to the moments right before they pass out again for another mass flash forward.

I think this episode was rather weak up until the end. What I think has been the weakest part of the entire show so far is that NOBODY has tried to deliberately change their future. You can't expect me to believe that Jett Jackson was the first one to see a future so bleak that he did not want to live it out and deliberately went about to change it. I would imagine that there would have been folks immediately following the flash forward who saw futures so horrible that either they ended it all soon thereafter or saw somebody in their flash forward doing something so heinous that they sought the person out and killed them as a preemptive measure. It didn't have to dominate the series...perhaps just have the FBI agents investigating a few suicides or murders that were somehow related to the flash forwards and debating if the future could be changed. To me, this concept in the series came too late.

Deftones 11-08-09 11:00 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by calhoun07 (Post 9823515)

I think this episode was rather weak up until the end. What I think has been the weakest part of the entire show so far is that NOBODY has tried to deliberately change their future.

Ummm, the future is 6 months in advance. I completely disagree with your statement. We've seen that several of the people have taken steps now to hopefully ensure their future changes. From what we know of the people on the show now, there isn't much they can do immediately to prevent their future from happening. Sans maybe moving to another country or something.

Goat3001 11-08-09 11:27 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
This show is definitely picking up here. I was ready to bail as I had the last 3 episodes saved on DVR and I had very little interest in watching it... but I bucked up and watched them all and it has drawn me back in. :up:

Patman 11-08-09 02:41 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
"Fate is what we make."

calhoun07 11-08-09 08:07 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 9823519)
Ummm, the future is 6 months in advance. I completely disagree with your statement. We've seen that several of the people have taken steps now to hopefully ensure their future changes. From what we know of the people on the show now, there isn't much they can do immediately to prevent their future from happening. Sans maybe moving to another country or something.

Wrong. We haven't seen ANYBODY change the future so far. And from what we know now, the future can obviously be changed.

Deftones 11-08-09 08:33 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by calhoun07 (Post 9824422)
Wrong. We haven't seen ANYBODY change the future so far. And from what we know now, the future can obviously be changed.

I never said anyone has changed it. My point is that knowing what they know now isn't going to change shit if they do something right now unless they do something extremely drastic. That's why some of them seem to be doing little things over time that might cause some sort of change.

calhoun07 11-08-09 09:38 PM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 9824444)
I never said anyone has changed it. My point is that knowing what they know now isn't going to change shit if they do something right now unless they do something extremely drastic. That's why some of them seem to be doing little things over time that might cause some sort of change.

And my point was that it took this show a long time to get to somebody with the balls to actually deliberately change it (which would require suicide/murder.) You disagreed completely with me, leading me to believe you saw something in previous episodes that was contradictory to what I said, which led me to believe you were wrong.

So apparently what you completely disagreed with me on was a snippet of a larger body of text, thus taking what I said out of context and construing it into an imaginary debate? Go back and read my entire post before taking what I said out of context next time, please.

Palaver 11-09-09 09:47 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by calhoun07 (Post 9824541)
And my point was that it took this show a long time to get to somebody with the balls to actually deliberately change it (which would require suicide/murder.)

While it wasn't as drastic as murder or suicide, Mark did burn the bracelet that his daughter gave him with the distinct attempt at changing his future. Of course, she could always make another one, I guess.

But I do agree with what you are saying. Everybody seems to be blindly going along with whatever their flash ordained for them. The most ludicrous is Mark's flash. His flash shows him being totally frustrated, trying to make sense of his clue board. Why is he meticulously trying to replicate it? Maybe making this clue board isn't the best route to go there, Mark.

JLB 11-09-09 10:48 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 9820382)

:)

http://www.accesshollywood.com/conte...ay-on-lost.jpg

RickerOne 11-09-09 11:35 AM

Re: Flash Forward -- "The Gift" -- 11/05/09
 
Anyone catch the "shout-out" to Generation Kill?

In the military flashback of what happened to the DWP guy's daughter's humvee, the call signs being used are 'Godfather' and 'Hitman'.

They used these same call signs in Generation Kill, unless these are common US Marine call signs. (Although I think 'Godfather' referred to the commander's raspy voice due to throat cancer)


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