Glee -- "The Rhodes Not Taken" -- 9/30/09
10-01-09, 04:11 PM
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Re: Glee -- "The Rhodes Not Taken" -- 9/30/09
But yeah, the ep was about her and how she stole the focus/Spotlight from the kids so it would seem the point was made.
10-01-09, 09:35 PM
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Re: Glee -- "The Rhodes Not Taken" -- 9/30/09
Was this the first time Quinn didn't wear her cheerleader outfit? I'm reminded of Claire in the first season of Heroes.
10-01-09, 10:42 PM
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Re: Glee -- "The Rhodes Not Taken" -- 9/30/09
I don't think anyone else has said it, so I will: Thank you for the very detailed and thought-provoking post. That's good stuff.
The overtly sexual themes are what bother me about this show the most, especially since they set this up pre-season as being a family show. In a pre-season interview with the director, he indicated he expected parents to be watching this with their 8-year-olds. Methinks that he's a bit permissive on that route.
That said, I suppose I can get past their pre-season marketing, but I'm just really not enjoying the sexually-oriented stuff, because the show isn't as outlandish as American Pie. It still tries to take itself too seriously on other counts, which, I think, confuses us as viewers, leaving us wondering if we're watching a farce or a standard comedy/drama. That's why I said, I'm seeing I just have to "go with it" until they settle on a direction. I'm willing to give them time.
Actually, I'm kind of surprised about the sexual themes in the show. First it was Rachel lecturing the Celibacy Club about not discussing protection. That would have made more sense if it had been in a abstinence-only sex education class. But a club that chooses to wait is getting lectured?
Then it implies that the guest star was having sex in the locker room with minors. In a show that's trying to deal serious with teenage pregnancy, the issue of promiscuous sex and STD's isn't addressed. Perhaps it will be, but it seems more like they're going the American Pie route.
Then it implies that the guest star was having sex in the locker room with minors. In a show that's trying to deal serious with teenage pregnancy, the issue of promiscuous sex and STD's isn't addressed. Perhaps it will be, but it seems more like they're going the American Pie route.
That said, I suppose I can get past their pre-season marketing, but I'm just really not enjoying the sexually-oriented stuff, because the show isn't as outlandish as American Pie. It still tries to take itself too seriously on other counts, which, I think, confuses us as viewers, leaving us wondering if we're watching a farce or a standard comedy/drama. That's why I said, I'm seeing I just have to "go with it" until they settle on a direction. I'm willing to give them time.
10-01-09, 11:27 PM
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Re: Glee -- "The Rhodes Not Taken" -- 9/30/09
I don't think anyone else has said it, so I will: Thank you for the very detailed and thought-provoking post. That's good stuff.
The overtly sexual themes are what bother me about this show the most, especially since they set this up pre-season as being a family show. In a pre-season interview with the director, he indicated he expected parents to be watching this with their 8-year-olds. Methinks that he's a bit permissive on that route.
That said, I suppose I can get past their pre-season marketing, but I'm just really not enjoying the sexually-oriented stuff, because the show isn't as outlandish as American Pie. It still tries to take itself too seriously on other counts, which, I think, confuses us as viewers, leaving us wondering if we're watching a farce or a standard comedy/drama. That's why I said, I'm seeing I just have to "go with it" until they settle on a direction. I'm willing to give them time.
The overtly sexual themes are what bother me about this show the most, especially since they set this up pre-season as being a family show. In a pre-season interview with the director, he indicated he expected parents to be watching this with their 8-year-olds. Methinks that he's a bit permissive on that route.
That said, I suppose I can get past their pre-season marketing, but I'm just really not enjoying the sexually-oriented stuff, because the show isn't as outlandish as American Pie. It still tries to take itself too seriously on other counts, which, I think, confuses us as viewers, leaving us wondering if we're watching a farce or a standard comedy/drama. That's why I said, I'm seeing I just have to "go with it" until they settle on a direction. I'm willing to give them time.
It is definitely not Saved By the Bell.
I do think they are trying a lot of different styles here and it's still trying to find it's groove.
10-02-09, 01:24 AM
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10-02-09, 07:09 AM
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Surprisingly, this was probably my least favorite episode of the series so far. I loved KC on Pushing Daisies, but something just seemed off about her here. She was overly tanned. Did no one else notice just how bad her skin looked? I also liked her performances better on Pushing Daisies as well. I thought Rachel had a much better performance in the duet. It may be just personal preference. Plus, her drunk act was not very funny, and I am a fan of most of the humor in this show.
I also wasn't a big fan of the songs in this episode for some reason. They just didn't strike a chord for me.
Also, Flinn is just not good. Is it only me? I said it in the pilot, and I will say it here, his voice is too weak for people to be going to apeshit over him in the show.
Give me more Quinn. Just have her on screen the entire time, and I'm happy. She is just gorgeous.
I also wasn't a big fan of the songs in this episode for some reason. They just didn't strike a chord for me.
Also, Flinn is just not good. Is it only me? I said it in the pilot, and I will say it here, his voice is too weak for people to be going to apeshit over him in the show.
Give me more Quinn. Just have her on screen the entire time, and I'm happy. She is just gorgeous.
10-02-09, 11:50 AM
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Surprisingly, this was probably my least favorite episode of the series so far. I loved KC on Pushing Daisies, but something just seemed off about her here. She was overly tanned. Did no one else notice just how bad her skin looked? I also liked her performances better on Pushing Daisies as well. I thought Rachel had a much better performance in the duet. It may be just personal preference. Plus, her drunk act was not very funny, and I am a fan of most of the humor in this show.
I also wasn't a big fan of the songs in this episode for some reason. They just didn't strike a chord for me.
Also, Flinn is just not good. Is it only me? I said it in the pilot, and I will say it here, his voice is too weak for people to be going to apeshit over him in the show.
Give me more Quinn. Just have her on screen the entire time, and I'm happy. She is just gorgeous.
I also wasn't a big fan of the songs in this episode for some reason. They just didn't strike a chord for me.
Also, Flinn is just not good. Is it only me? I said it in the pilot, and I will say it here, his voice is too weak for people to be going to apeshit over him in the show.
Give me more Quinn. Just have her on screen the entire time, and I'm happy. She is just gorgeous.
Who's going apeshit over Finn in the show? He has a decent voice, and Will is just trying to help him improve it. I think that was the idea of casting this kid in the part. His voice is okay, and there's room to make it better, just like his character. I'm sure he's taking vocal lessons between shooting, and I'm sure we'll see improvements as he gets better, and as his character gains more confidence.
10-02-09, 12:07 PM
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It didn't look like makeup. It looked like she would look terrible in real life as well as her part.
I guess considering he's the male lead and he gets the main role in songs needing a male voice, even over the mohawk kid, that they must think he is better.
Look, I'm a fan of the show. I'm just not as familiar with some of the songs this week as the rest of you are so that may have led to me not liking them as much.
Also, I just didn't really like her character, and I didn't like the way she was singing the cabaret song. I'm not saying it to rag on the show, I like the show. That was just my feedback.
I guess considering he's the male lead and he gets the main role in songs needing a male voice, even over the mohawk kid, that they must think he is better.
Look, I'm a fan of the show. I'm just not as familiar with some of the songs this week as the rest of you are so that may have led to me not liking them as much.
Also, I just didn't really like her character, and I didn't like the way she was singing the cabaret song. I'm not saying it to rag on the show, I like the show. That was just my feedback.
10-02-09, 01:07 PM
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Re: Glee -- "The Rhodes Not Taken" -- 9/30/09
Probably been posted elsewhere, but the soundtrack is out in a month (spoilered because some of the tracks will be on upcoming episodes):
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10-04-09, 03:45 PM
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Re: Glee -- "The Rhodes Not Taken" -- 9/30/09
So I just got hooked and burned though all five episodes this weekend. Can someone answer this for me though: obviously they are dubbing, but are they dubbing the songs with studio tracks of the actors really singing? Or are the singing voices completely different people?
10-04-09, 05:28 PM
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I'm still fascinated by the complaints about dubbing. Glee is a musical, and every movie or TV version of a musical has always been dubbed...from Singing in the Rain to Buffy's Once More With Feeling to Hairspray. Live vocals just wouldn't sound good at all, and I've been a singer for years. The music just wouldn't be as effective, and it never even phased me to hear the music performed this way.
I'm just amazed anyone would have an issue with it. The alternative would be terrible.
I'm just amazed anyone would have an issue with it. The alternative would be terrible.
10-04-09, 07:29 PM
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Re: Glee -- "The Rhodes Not Taken" -- 9/30/09
Yeah there was an interview with Cory and Lea for an Australian radio station where they mentioned that they record the songs in a studio a day or two before filming. Then when the show is filmed they actually sing along (not just lip syncing) with the recording of themselves. But what we hear on television is that studio version.
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Re: Glee -- "The Rhodes Not Taken" -- 9/30/09
I'm still fascinated by the complaints about dubbing. Glee is a musical, and every movie or TV version of a musical has always been dubbed...from Singing in the Rain to Buffy's Once More With Feeling to Hairspray. Live vocals just wouldn't sound good at all, and I've been a singer for years. The music just wouldn't be as effective, and it never even phased me to hear the music performed this way.
I'm just amazed anyone would have an issue with it. The alternative would be terrible.
I'm just amazed anyone would have an issue with it. The alternative would be terrible.
He's no Lea Michele, but he's the best they have. I'll go out on a limb with a blatant and potentially offensive generalization: it's easier to find talented women for this kind of activity than it is to find talented men. Sort of like coed softball in reverse.
10-04-09, 09:44 PM
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I just realized that Lea was in Spring Awakening...I knew she looked familiar. That means I've seen her naked...yay.
Everyone on this show is so talented, I had no idea I'd like it so much. It's really a lot of fun.
Everyone on this show is so talented, I had no idea I'd like it so much. It's really a lot of fun.
10-05-09, 10:10 AM
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I'm still fascinated by the complaints about dubbing. Glee is a musical, and every movie or TV version of a musical has always been dubbed...from Singing in the Rain to Buffy's Once More With Feeling to Hairspray. Live vocals just wouldn't sound good at all, and I've been a singer for years. The music just wouldn't be as effective, and it never even phased me to hear the music performed this way.
I'm just amazed anyone would have an issue with it. The alternative would be terrible.
I'm just amazed anyone would have an issue with it. The alternative would be terrible.
10-05-09, 11:23 AM
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Re: Glee -- "The Rhodes Not Taken" -- 9/30/09
I'm pretty sensitive to lip-synching (I watch shoulders to see if they are taking breaths) and I think it's fine. Looks like they are singing along for the most part.
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Re: Glee -- "The Rhodes Not Taken" -- 9/30/09
I don't have a problem that they aren't singing live. I wouldn't expect them to. I just don't understand why it looks so off in this show. It's like they don't match the recordings properly, or the lips aren't moving the way they should, but it is way more noticeable than I have noticed on other musicals.
10-07-09, 02:15 AM
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Re: Glee -- "The Rhodes Not Taken" -- 9/30/09
I wonder if there's any connection between the part on Glee and the video she did for funnyordie.com. In Glee she was April Rhodes, an alcoholic, and in the video she did for funnyordie she played an interventionist, which was written by Amy Rhodes.
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