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WallyOPD 08-19-09 05:41 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Originally Posted by JasonF (Post 9656403)
(But seriously people -- I posted an interview of her saying in her own words that she was fired. What more do you want!?)
I didn't realize that Gates McFadden looked so much like Joan Rivers. ;)

Rockmjd23 08-19-09 05:43 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Hmm..must thing of a golf analogy for Palaver...Is he the Roberto De Vicenzo of Sheep?

Palaver 08-19-09 06:03 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Originally Posted by Rockmjd23 (Post 9656444)
Hmm..must thing of a golf analogy for Palaver...Is he the Roberto De Vicenzo of Sheep?
:lol: I have absolutely no idea if I was just insulted or complimented.

Rockmjd23 08-19-09 06:10 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Originally Posted by Palaver (Post 9656473)
:lol: I have absolutely no idea if I was just insulted or complimented.
Actually it is a bad analogy and makes little sense. In the 1968 Masters, his playing partner Tommy Aaron put the wrong score for De Vicenzo's 17th hole, and he didn't notice the error before signing it. He then missed out on a playoff with eventual winner Bob Goalby by one stroke.

Basically he got screwed out of winning, like you ;)

wmansir 08-19-09 06:12 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Originally Posted by WallyOPD (Post 9656440)
I didn't realize that Gates McFadden looked so much like Joan Rivers. ;)
I could see splitting that hair if there were other sources that said she quit but, IIRC, the "She quit" side put up zero evidence to support the claim.

The Bus 08-19-09 06:37 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Originally Posted by WallyOPD (Post 9656309)
Evidence was presented, but it was somehow determined that millions of people randomly decided to purchase DVDs for a show they had no interest in, then network executives were fooled into thinking those people might be fans of the show and thus brought it back, and then the Nielsen company was fooled into thinking enough of those people actually tuned in to the revived show to keep it on the air for the next several years. ;)
No, evidence was not presented. For the 195th time (and nor this did not sway anyone, hence it continues not being evidence), buying the DVDs did not merit enough of a "fan action" especially since the original question was talking about writing letters, which is much more pro-active than hitting a few mouse buttons on a browser and adding a DVD to your cart.

Afterwards, while we looked through the Wiki evidence, we saw that there was actual action made to save the show: letter-writing, petitions, etc. You were so blinded by your thought that merely buying a DVD or having a station tuned to a channel merited fanatical action that you failed to capitalize on an opportunity.

Evidence was there, but it was never presented.

WallyOPD 08-19-09 06:48 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Originally Posted by The Bus (Post 9656531)
No, evidence was not presented. For the 195th time (and not this did not sway anyone, hence it continues not being evidence), buying the DVDs did not merit enough of a "fan action" especially since the original question was talking about writing letters, which is much more pro-active than hitting a few mouse buttons on a browser and adding a DVD to your cart.
I am quite honestly baffled by how anyone could not interpret fans buying massive amounts of DVDs as not being action. It feels like I'm arguing with people about whether or not Tom Brady is on the Patriots.

It's not just clicking a few mouse buttons, it's shelling out hard earned cash which seems much more pro-active than firing off a form letter. I know you and Red Dog and others are being quite sincere, but if I didn't know better I'd swear I was being Punk'd.

Jimmy James 08-19-09 07:06 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Massive amounts of DVDs? Did people shingle their roof with copies of the DVD? Did they build Stewie statues out of the discs?

WallyOPD 08-19-09 07:27 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
They sold 2.2 million DVDs in one year. If you don't think that's a massive amount then I guess I'm not sure what else to say.

Jimmy James 08-19-09 08:42 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
I'm trying to figure out if the fans bought massive numbers. Are there people out there who bought 30 sets, for instance?

JasonF 08-19-09 08:46 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Originally Posted by WallyOPD (Post 9656610)
They sold 2.2 million DVDs in one year. If you don't think that's a massive amount then I guess I'm not sure what else to say.
:shrug: Lots of DVDs sell 2.2 million units.

http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/chart.../thisweek.php-

WallyOPD 08-19-09 09:32 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Originally Posted by Jimmy James (Post 9656782)
I'm trying to figure out if the fans bought massive numbers. Are there people out there who bought 30 sets, for instance?
Are you just being difficult for difficulties sake now? No, individual fans were not frequently buying multiple sets. I do believe the average number of sets purchased per fan was much closer to 1.0 than most other shows. That's just a guess, but given the extraordinarily high DVD sales it seems like a reasonable one.

Originally Posted by JasonF (Post 9656800)
:shrug: Lots of DVDs sell 2.2 million units.

http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/chart.../thisweek.php-
Looking at the 2008 sales chart the top selling TV DVD is The Office - Season 4 at 1.05 million units (while Family Guy - Blue Harvest sold 1.14 million units that same year). Family Guy was the top-selling TV DVD for 2003 which is pretty impressive for a show that was canceled, and Fox agreed. A Fox exec said "When we saw the way the fan base reacted, it obviously got us thinking there was a very pure audience that would follow it anywhere."

Jimmy James 08-19-09 09:49 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Stress the word "follow" above.

Supermallet 08-19-09 10:01 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Even into mediocrity and crappy recurring jokes. :(

RKillgore 08-19-09 11:18 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet (Post 9654928)
I'm unsure what to do with this new information, especially since it (apparently, I haven't checked) will change the final standings.

Can I have people weigh in?

Should we revisit question 1? Yes or no?

http://home.comcast.net/~ron.killgor...s/pike_off.jpghttp://home.comcast.net/~ron.killgor...es/pike_on.jpghttp://home.comcast.net/~ron.killgor...s/pike_off.jpghttp://home.comcast.net/~ron.killgor...es/pike_on.jpghttp://home.comcast.net/~ron.killgor...s/pike_off.jpg

The Bus 08-19-09 11:26 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
I own Family Guy DVDs. I'm not a fan of the show. I would not do anything if it was cancelled.

Now, Venture Bros. on the other hand...

Count Dooku 08-20-09 11:58 AM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
My question would be for Tracer Bullet--

When you asked the question, what, in all honesty, did you think the possible correct answers would be?

The Bus 08-20-09 12:42 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
I don't see TV up. :mad:

Tracer Bullet 08-20-09 02:42 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 9658472)
My question would be for Tracer Bullet--

When you asked the question, what, in all honesty, did you think the possible correct answers would be?
I didn't think of Family Guy, which I assume is your point. Actually, I thought of Jericho, and that was about it.

Tracer Bullet 08-20-09 02:43 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Originally Posted by The Bus (Post 9658620)
I don't see TV up. :mad:
I haven't even started working on it yet :lol:

Count Dooku 08-20-09 03:14 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet (Post 9658928)
I didn't think of Family Guy, which I assume is your point. Actually, I thought of Jericho, and that was about it.
I'm surprised that you asked questions that you didn't already know the correct answers (to).
Perhaps you should take that into consideration if you do another game.

Tracer Bullet 08-20-09 03:59 PM
Re: Star Trek Sheep: The Next Generation
 
Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 9658979)
I'm surprised that you asked questions that you didn't already know the correct answers (to).
Perhaps you should take that into consideration if you do another game.
On behalf of anyone who has ever run a Sheep game:

rotfl


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