"Gee, I wish I had one of them temporal weapons!"
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Pike wasn't marked wrong. Not sure why you can't access page 25, I'm not having any problems. How many posts per page are you set at?

While my guy is out grabbing bagels I'm checking in on this thread. I am insane.

Pike wasn't a wrong answer.

With the evidence presented, Bajoran should count. I'll change it when I have time.

Romulan still shouldn't count because he was not in the Delta Quadrant.

Riker isn't counting, he was an admiral in "All Good Things..." and we all fucking know it.

If any more fucking old people bring up the lack of TOS-specific questions I will dock you 1701 points. Some of us were born in the '80s.

That is all. The game will probably finish on Sunday.

I'm impressed you said 1701 rather than 1701-D or more. I wasn't sure if you knew it came without letters.

17 point swing!

Kool (& the Gang)

Your new score:

Red Dog 1694

Cool. Now I'll have a shot at finishing at 1701.

I'm not asking for "All Good Things", my evidence he was a Captain is from "Best of Both Worlds Pt2".

That was clearly a temporary field promotion, which were explicitlty excluded in the rules.

At the time, it wasn't clear that it was temporary though. For all intents and purposes, Picard was dead and unlikely to come back. I thought about answering Riker too, and I still think he should count as a right answer. I didn't stick with it because these questions tend to bite me in the ass.

As I mentioned earlier, if Starfleet had intended for the promotion to be permanent, they would have let Riker retain his rank (even if that meant he was on another ship) when Picard was brought back.

Despite vehemently disagreeing with the decision regarding my Riker answer, I'm not going to continue to derail this any further. Therefore, I withdraw my protest.

Let's all move on. Thank you.

It would still be a field promotion, though. What makes it a field promotion is the way it happened. Picard was gone. Somebody had to lead. It was Riker. There is no indication that Riker would have retained the flagship even if he were promoted to Captain (and not just a Commander who was captain). Indeed, putting Jellico in charge later in the series tends to argue that he would not have retained that command. In fact, the Picard-Jellico transfer of power is a beautiful contrast to this one. Picard was relieved of command by Starfleet. It was permanent (except that it wasn't, due in universe to the way Jellico handled the transition, I guess, and in reality because there was no way Stewart was going anywhere).

ETA: I have been meaning to mention that the best Captain Riker argument is from Parallels. I believe in that episode, there may have been one universe Worf jumped into with Riker as Captain and another at the end with all the mirror universe Enterprises where an Enterprise terribly damaged by conflict with the Borg was commanded by Riker, who indicated Picard was dead. I think the latter could very well be a field promotion, but the former seemed to me to be of permanent nature.

ETA2: Yes, in "act 4", Captain Riker meets with Worf and Worf asks how long he has been Captain. He says 4 years. 4 years is clearly not a temporary field promotion.

Good catch, JJ. I almost went with captain of the NX-01 in the alternate universe ST:Enterprise episode(s) "In the Mirror, Darkly", but then I remembered that there was no 'Starfeet', but a 'Terran Empire' instead. And then I also remembered I couldn't remember the name of the captain.

FYI, I added a (crappy) spreadsheet to Everything sheep game.

That's an intriguing point, I might lean towards counting Riker given that.

While I'm not overly concerned about the points lost, I still don't understand your criteria for this. He was in the Delta Quadrant, albeit for a short period of time. Voyager beamed him aboard (sure, from the Alpha Quadrant, but the point being he was in the Delta as well). Maybe I'm missing something.

In honor of the Riker question I just ordered this:


http://www.shopafx.com/afxexsttrtng.html

Actually I ordered it as a bundle with a replica regular Enterprise-D as well, but the All Good Things version is just so damn cool.

"In the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Parallels" Riker is clearly shown to be captain of the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D for a period of no less than FOUR YEARS!"

"Therefore, Chew's answer of "Riker" is correct!"

Thanks, Phoenix! Good defending there.

Riker will be changed to a Correct Answer.

Huzzah!

This is the greatest thread ever!