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pinata242 03-06-09 08:46 AM
Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2158/...0e59cfbd_b.jpg

Spoiler:
As Galactica continues to deteriorate, Adama resists the need to abandon the ship and Baltar emerges as an unlikely voice of hope.



The end is coming quick. Only 3 more weeks / 4 more hours.

cleaver 03-06-09 09:36 AM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Help me out please with Earth.
Spoiler:
Was the 13th tribe, which settled on Earth, made up of humanoid cylons or humans? And if they were humanoid cylons was it just the 5 or 6 who discovered how to download, or was it humans who discovered how to live forever? And who was the 13th tribe fighting that nuked Earth? And when they got back to Cabol were the 1st 12 tribes fighting with the Centerion cylons?

Thanks

aintnosin 03-06-09 11:25 AM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Originally Posted by cleaver (Post 9309663)
Help me out please with Earth.
I think we're still waiting for the answers to those questions.

cleaver 03-06-09 02:39 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Originally Posted by cleaver (Post 9309663)
Help me out please with Earth.
Spoiler:
Was the 13th tribe, which settled on Earth, made up of humanoid cylons or humans? And if they were humanoid cylons was it just the 5 or 6 who discovered how to download, or was it humans who discovered how to live forever? And who was the 13th tribe fighting that nuked Earth? And when they got back to Cabol were the 1st 12 tribes fighting with the Centerion cylons?

Thanks
I found some answers here and here.
The key paragraph for me
Spoiler:
When Anders mentioned that the 12 Tribes' Centurions had already begun their attempt to create flesh bodies, this did not seem to surprise Anders. This may hint to the 13th Tribe's origins as they may have begun the same way. They as Cylons developed "flesh" bodies and the organic memory transfer technology on Kobol. However, after they found and settled on Earth, this resurrection technology was lost to time and had to be reinvented. The Final Five's negotiated deal with the 12 Tribes' Centurions seemed to be motivated by their desire to not repeat the cycle by giving the Centurions what the 13th Tribes ancestors had achieved. However, their reasoning for not allowing biological reproduction in the 8 humanoid models seemed to indicate a plan to bring Cylon and Human together.

Ayre 03-06-09 02:56 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
I am struggling to make it to the end of this series. It's too freaking convoluted and slow. The show has shown its potential many times in the past, but the last episodes have been more of a let down than a build up.

gmanca 03-06-09 04:06 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
According to a different promo:
Spoiler:
The Ship of Lights may be in this episode

Jason 03-06-09 04:49 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Speaking of Earth, are they still there? They can't jump and they have nowhere else to go. Are they just in orbit/in the solar system, or are they just aimlessly wandering in the great void of space? You know, kinda like what the writers are doing?

Sean O'Hara 03-06-09 10:02 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Another episode with next to no plot advancement.

But about the ad for next week (no spoilers) I'd love a poster of the shot of the hangar deck.

golden_rod 03-06-09 10:37 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Originally Posted by cleaver (Post 9309663)
Help me out please with Earth.
Spoiler:
Was the 13th tribe, which settled on Earth, made up of humanoid cylons or humans? And if they were humanoid cylons was it just the 5 or 6 who discovered how to download, or was it humans who discovered how to live forever? And who was the 13th tribe fighting that nuked Earth? And when they got back to Cabol were the 1st 12 tribes fighting with the Centerion cylons?

Thanks
All of those questions were answered in "No Exit."

Spoiler:
1. The 13th tribe were humanoid Cylons, created on Kobol.

2. The "Final Five" were tasked with re-discovering how to resurrect because the 13th tribe had lost the ability to do so with each successive generation because they had found a way to reproduce.

3. The 13th tribe built their own Centurions, which revolted and nuked them.

4. The "Final Five" never went back to Kobol, nor did anyone from the 13th tribe.

Cardiff Giant11 03-06-09 10:38 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
man talk about a "meh" episode. They sure are sputtering towards the finale rather than revving it up like they did with the Mutiny episodes. I have a funny feeling the final payoff just isn't going to be worth it but I hope I'm wrong.

Patman 03-06-09 10:40 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Wow, could they hammer it home anymore that humans now have a way (unknown for now) to resurrect themselves a la Starbuck? Wouldn't the cylons be jealous of such a process?

Binger 03-06-09 10:49 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
I couldn't help but laugh when Adama and Roslyn were smoking a blunt in the medical bay.

gmanca 03-06-09 11:39 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
^ yeah and after one puff comes the existential "whoa" question: "What is home?"

If you were expecting tons of revelations, like I was for a bit, you might feel let down but it really was a good episode of BSG. The shot of Tigh and Adama drinking to Galactica was awesome.

The Canadian promo showed only half of that Cylon colony, with the spikes, so I thought it was the Ship of Lights, as possibly alluded to in Starbuck's drawings.

Draven 03-07-09 12:15 AM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Loved it from start to finish. I really feel like things are drawing to a close, all bets are off and anything goes.

This is how you build to a finale. Big changes (abandoning ship), small moments (Laura and Adama remembering their time on New Caprica) and some cool stuff (the dying 8's line from "All Along The Watchtower").

Cannot wait to see what happens.

grrr 03-07-09 12:17 AM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Roslin dying painfully slowly, though lucidly and wisely? Check.
Adama sobbing, throwing things, and generally acting like an out-of-control teenager? Check.
Irritating, incredibly foolish Baltar who can't recall a female officer he nailed? Check.

Yes, it's still post-season 2 BSG.

MrX 03-07-09 01:35 AM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
This episode felt like I was watching last weeks all over again.

Super X 03-07-09 07:28 AM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
And are we supposed to feel any sympathy for Boomer at this point? Any that might have been left was pretty much done with after last week's episode.

Jason 03-07-09 08:33 AM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Originally Posted by Super X (Post 9311451)
And are we supposed to feel any sympathy for Boomer at this point? Any that might have been left was pretty much done with after last week's episode.
I think she is supposed to be a villian.

The episode wasn't bad, except when you remember that we only have a few left. I guess next weeks will be posturing about
Spoiler:
abandoning ship
and everything will happen in the big finale.

I can see how a lot of the characters will get closure
Spoiler:
mostly by dying
, but I don't see how they can ever resolve the actual premise of the show. Disappointing.

Sean O'Hara 03-07-09 09:31 AM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Originally Posted by gmanca (Post 9311251)
If you were expecting tons of revelations, like I was for a bit, you might feel let down but it really was a good episode of BSG.
The show's suffering the same problem as DS9 -- the final run of episodes is full of plots that do nothing to move us towards a conclusion, that would've been good in the first or second season but are disappointing when you want everything wrapped up.

Red Dog 03-07-09 10:18 AM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Originally Posted by MrX (Post 9311329)
This episode felt like I was watching last weeks all over again.
This whole season has seemed like the same episode over and over again.

Cardiff Giant11 03-07-09 10:23 AM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Originally Posted by grrr (Post 9311283)
Roslin dying painfully slowly, though lucidly and wisely? Check.
Adama sobbing, throwing things, and generally acting like an out-of-control teenager? Check.
Irritating, incredibly foolish Baltar who can't recall a female officer he nailed? Check.

Yes, it's still post-season 2 BSG.
I agree I've had enough of Adama's sobbing and fits of rage. I also totally forgot that Baltar nailed Starbuck, thanks for the reminder. That really makes his playing the "who are you" kind of dumb.

pezsoup 03-07-09 11:24 AM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Originally Posted by grrr (Post 9311283)
Irritating, incredibly foolish Baltar who can't recall a female officer he nailed? Check.
Give him a break, she had short hair then.

TGM 03-07-09 11:39 AM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
I figured out exactly what Kara Thrace is...

Spoiler:
an annoying twat

Kdogg 03-07-09 11:45 AM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Originally Posted by Red Dog (Post 9311584)
This whole season has seemed like the same episode over and over again.
Well that is an underling theme of the series. :) All This Has Happened Before...

riley_dude 03-07-09 12:14 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Originally Posted by Binger (Post 9311189)
I couldn't help but laugh when Adama and Roslyn were smoking a blunt in the medical bay.
I thought it was a cigar at first.
I guess its legal there?
Yeah, pretty slow episode. We still get it. They are all miserable.

Joe Schmoe 03-07-09 12:56 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
The stuff with Roslin and Adama was boring. So was the toast at the end with Tigh and Adama. I'm sick of watching Adama throw hissy fits. I'm also tired of watching him give very stern orders only to change his mind soon after... he flat out said no cylon technology on his ship, then he said ok... he didn't want to abandon ship, then after a short chat with Roslin he said ok... wasn't it Dee who, with just a few simple words, got him to change his mind about reuniting the fleet with the people on New Caprica? And before that, he witnessed Billy and Dee together in the CIC and that little moment got him to change his mind about chasing the Cylons (or something like that).

Gunde 03-07-09 02:26 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
This episode bored me out of my skull. Nothing at all interesting happened and we learned nothing new (of interest)

I checked the time at 0:15, 0:21, 033, 0:36, 0:38, 0:38:30 and every 10 seconds from there and it just wouldn't end :(

Sean O'Hara 03-07-09 02:32 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Originally Posted by Joe Schmoe (Post 9311813)
The stuff with Roslin and Adama was boring. So was the toast at the end with Tigh and Adama. I'm sick of watching Adama throw hissy fits. I'm also tired of watching him give very stern orders only to change his mind soon after... he flat out said no cylon technology on his ship, then he said ok... he didn't want to abandon ship, then after a short chat with Roslin he said ok... wasn't it Dee who, with just a few simple words, got him to change his mind about reuniting the fleet with the people on New Caprica? And before that, he witnessed Billy and Dee together in the CIC and that little moment got him to change his mind about chasing the Cylons (or something like that).
That's not as bad as the hypocrisy he showed with Helo -- remember when Starbuck was stranded on the planet, and he wouldn't halt the search and rescue operations until Roslin chewed him out, and afterwards he confessed that he would never have given up if Lee had been the one stranded; and then there's the time last season when he took a raptor to search for Roslin and the Basestar. But Helo wants to find his daughter and it's abso-frakkin'-lutely no.

Gunde 03-07-09 03:19 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
BTW how do they get a little girl to cry like that?

runner001 03-07-09 03:34 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
I'd cry too if I were kidnapped by a murderer who looks freakishly like my mom.

Sean O'Hara 03-07-09 03:34 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Originally Posted by Gunde (Post 9312013)
BTW how do they get a little girl to cry like that?
Watch the special features for "Meet Me in St. Louis." It usually involves threatening to kill small furry animals.

boogieman03 03-07-09 03:41 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Gotta agree with most everybody's comments. Pretty brutal episode. At this point...I just along for the ride 'till the end.

DarkestPhoenix 03-07-09 04:23 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Originally Posted by runner001 (Post 9312041)
I'd cry too if I were kidnapped by a murderer who looks freakishly like my mom but.
This sentence made me think maybe the other number eight is really Candlejack in disguise and she ma

Jason 03-07-09 09:32 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Originally Posted by Gunde (Post 9312013)
BTW how do they get a little girl to cry like that?
they told her she still had three more episodes of this bullshit to shoot?

Superman07 03-08-09 08:57 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
This episode was rather slow. However, you can still see that they are showing progression of the characters as they are continually forced to come to grips with the situations at hand and in turn change even though they don't want to (e.g. Adam's 'change of minds' throughout the years).

Something I hadn't really thought about in a while were the computers for the cylon ships. What are they called again? Didn't somebody ask at one point who they were and how they arrived in their roles; only to be told the history was unsure?

Just when I think Baltar is going to chagne and redeeem himself (to an extent) he goes and plays the same part again and again. I suppose that was Six's comment to him, and us the viwer? I thought Starbuck was reaching out to him for answers only to have him turn back around use it for his own means to further his religious zealotry goals.

Did we ever get an answer for the Six in his head? Was it this projectial transference, but somehow stuck? Still doesn't explain the randomness of it.

Assuming the final 3 hours are amazing I'm going to have to go back and rewatch this series one day. If Galactica is jumped into that massive ship of "John's" as her final move, that will go a long way towards making it awesome. Speaking of which, when was the last time we had a massive space battle - the cylon civil war?

Palaver 03-08-09 09:59 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
So, Chief was oddly out of the picture during this episode. Was there not an investigation as to how Boomer escaped? I hate how they will completely ignore a plot point until the writers are ready to address it.

DarkestPhoenix 03-08-09 10:03 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Who the hell was Adama talking about when he said "I lost a son today, but I understand if you don't want to come to the funeral?"

gmanca 03-08-09 10:45 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
I thought he said he lost a son, too. Otherwise I have no idea.

BartleyR7 03-08-09 11:02 PM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Originally Posted by Palaver (Post 9313927)
So, Chief was oddly out of the picture during this episode. Was there not an investigation as to how Boomer escaped? I hate how they will completely ignore a plot point until the writers are ready to address it.
Looks like it was just something that got cut. Found the information below at the Battlestar Galactica Wiki entry for the episode.

Chief Tyrol was no where to be seen in this episode. Even crewman Dealino gives a report to both Admiral Adama and Colonel Tigh of what the attitudes of the Cylons, particularly the Leobens, thought as to how many jumps Galactica had left in her. Bear McCreary reveals there is an extended scene on the DVD which shows Chief Tyrol is being held in Galactica's brig for his part in Boomer's escape.

golden_rod 03-09-09 01:33 AM
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "Islanded in a Stream of Stars" -- 03/06/2009 -- 3 Left
 
Originally Posted by Palaver (Post 9313927)
So, Chief was oddly out of the picture during this episode. Was there not an investigation as to how Boomer escaped? I hate how they will completely ignore a plot point until the writers are ready to address it.
He's supposedly in the brig, but the scene was cut. There's going to be Olmos' "director's cut" of this episode on the DVD.


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