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Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
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Wasn't expecting this to be on the par of the last two and I certainly infer that from the synopsis. I have faith this won't retcon too much ;) |
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
Originally Posted by pinata242
(Post 9263977)
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Wasn't expecting this to be on the par of the last two and I certainly infer that from the synopsis. I have faith this won't retcon too much ;) |
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
rotfl
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
Very excited about this episode after that preview. "I remember everything"...we'll see. Actually I'm just as excited every week who am I kidding?
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
Daniel was an artist, Starbuck was doing those paintings a few episodes back. It is a bit thin.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
Holy moly, that was a lot of exposition in one episode. Poor Sam, he probably had more dialogue in this episode than his entire run on this show.
Wait till Ellen and Boomer find out about Saul and Six's baby. Someone is going to want to "jump" away ASAP. |
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
I've loved the return of BSG. The first two eps didn't rush pass emotions to get to the next fight, and when that fight came it was bad-ass on the level we expect from the show, but this was like the scene with the Architect in Matrix Reloaded stretched out over 44 minutes. I actually tuned out at the end because it was just too much. I don't know what happened in the last three minutes even though I was staring right at the screen.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
OUCH!! My brain hurts from taking all of that information in.
I noticed that my theory from last week about the ship is getting some more legitimacy. Too much to discuss about the episode right now, I think I have to watch it again. But how did you guys like the opening? I had to rewind it because I wasn't paying full attention at first. |
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
We have ALOT to talk about that was discussed IN THIS episode so Im not Spoilering anything...
So...the final five...aren't Cylons? They are humans who perfected cloning/mind transference...hence Cylons/Resurrection? |
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
It was good but holy moly retcon city.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
Having got in to BSG at the mid/end-point of Season 3, I can't say for certain what is retconned, but sound like the origin is:
Spoiler:
But if that's the case then... Spoiler:
Great episode though, as far as having to think and second-guess the storyline. |
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
Originally Posted by Shazam
(Post 9266007)
It was good but holy moly retcon city.
Spoiler:
Originally Posted by gmanca
(Post 9266080)
Having got in to BSG at the mid/end-point of Season 3, I can't say for certain what is retconned, but sound like the origin is:
Spoiler:
But if that's the case then... Spoiler:
Great episode though, as far as having to think and second-guess the storyline. Spoiler:
It was very exposition-heavy, but damn, I loved every minute of it. I was geeking out like CRAZY. |
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
Originally Posted by SterlingBen
(Post 9265888)
Daniel was an artist, Starbuck was doing those paintings a few episodes back. It is a bit thin.
It actually sort of fits... there's the missing number seven, "twelve models" - only twelve if one of them is no longer active, and it sort of makes sense for there to be thirteen Cylons (with thirteen colonies, one of them missing). |
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
Originally Posted by Patman
(Post 9265889)
Wait till Ellen and Boomer find out about Saul and Six's baby. Someone is going to want to "jump" away ASAP.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
Originally Posted by cornflakeguy
(Post 9265999)
We have ALOT to talk about that was discussed IN THIS episode so Im not Spoilering anything...
So...the final five...aren't Cylons? They are humans who perfected cloning/mind transference...hence Cylons/Resurrection? |
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
I am so fraking confused about who built whom. I need a flow chart to understand what all that explanation was in this episode.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
As far as I can make of Sam's ramblings --
It all started on Kobol. The Kobol humans built Cylons to use as robotic servants. Then there was some kind of catastrophe on Kobol (natural? Cylon uprising?) and Kobol was abandoned. Thirteen colonies were founded, twelve with humans, and one with Cylons on a place they called "Earth." (I'm still not convinced that the "Earth" Starbuck led them to is/was out Earth.) On Earth, the Cylons "evolved" to become more human-like, and there was some kind of war on Earth that wiped them all out. In the meantime, the twelve colonies started making Cylons again. Back on Earth, there were five skinjobs (Ellen, Saul, Tori, Galen, and Sam) who saw the war coming and developed resurrection technology. After the war, they left Earth at sublight speeds to return to the twelve colonies to warn them not to start making Cylons again because they will eventually rise up against their masters. They didn't get there in time, and arrived in the middle of the human-Cylon civil war. In order to end the war, the "final five" gave the Cylons resurrection technology and helped them create "skinjobs." (We had already seen the Cylons attempting to make themselves appear human in Razor.) One of the skinjob models, John Cavil, resented his human form and erased the memories of the final five and sent them to live as humans among the colonials in order to make them suffer. I'm assuming that the upcoming TV movie, "The Plan," will flesh this backstory out in detail. |
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
Originally Posted by golden_rod
(Post 9266196)
How so? They didn't really change any previously established facts within the show. It was just lots of exposition to fill in what we didn't know.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
interesting, albeit confusing. Hopefully it becomes clearer the next few episodes.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
Originally Posted by Shazam
(Post 9266411)
Just the part where Cavill and Boomer knew who the final Cylon was 10 months ago and never bothered to tell anyone.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
(Post 9266297)
As far as I can make of Sam's ramblings --
It all started on Kobol. The Kobol humans built Cylons to use as robotic servants. Then there was some kind of catastrophe on Kobol (natural? Cylon uprising?) and Kobol was abandoned. Thirteen colonies were founded, twelve with humans, and one with Cylons on a place they called "Earth." (I'm still not convinced that the "Earth" Starbuck led them to is/was out Earth.) On Earth, the Cylons "evolved" to become more human-like, and there was some kind of war on Earth that wiped them all out. In the meantime, the twelve colonies started making Cylons again. Back on Earth, there were five skinjobs (Ellen, Saul, Tori, Galen, and Sam) who saw the war coming and developed resurrection technology. After the war, they left Earth at sublight speeds to return to the twelve colonies to warn them not to start making Cylons again because they will eventually rise up against their masters. They didn't get there in time, and arrived in the middle of the human-Cylon civil war. In order to end the war, the "final five" gave the Cylons resurrection technology and helped them create "skinjobs." (We had already seen the Cylons attempting to make themselves appear human in Razor.) One of the skinjob models, John Cavil, resented his human form and erased the memories of the final five and sent them to live as humans among the colonials in order to make them suffer. I'm assuming that the upcoming TV movie, "The Plan," will flesh this backstory out in detail. |
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
I liked PC-guy as the neurosurgeon.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
Originally Posted by golden_rod
(Post 9266196)
How so? They didn't really change any previously established facts within the show. It was just lots of exposition to fill in what we didn't know.
-Ellen's been on the Basestar since the liberation of New Caprica. -Boomer knew about Ellen when the Cylon Civil War began. -There's a brain surgeon in the fleet. Remember when Doc Cottle was the only doctor for the entire fleet? Now we've seen two additional MDs. -It was all Cavil's dastardly plan for Anders to become a resistance leader, and Tigh to be the XO of the one surviving Battlestar, etc. -Tigh never served in the Cylon War. Only the last one had the least bit of set-up, and even that was laid out after Moore decided to make teh Final Five fleet members. |
Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
Ellen not being on the basestar since the liberation of New Caprica was an established fact within the show?
As far as the surgeon goes, Cottle could have trained someone offscreen during the last year. It's possible! |
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