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Old 06-22-08 | 03:16 AM
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Clerks 2 really wasn't that bad, nothing really happens on screen and the dialog isn't that raunchy, ass the mouth and a donkey show, oh no.
I'd say it was raunchier than the first, which only escaped an NC-17 after Miramax threw a public shitfit and hired two of the most prestigious lawyers on the planet to handle their appeal. The sequel landed an R rating on the first go-around, which even Smith wasn't expecting.

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I don't have full blown examples, but have heard it mentioned many times and if you were to go make an indie flick that described sexual acts for 2 hours you wouldn't be getting an R rating.
Unless we're counting instructional videos here, the movies fitting this description number somewhere around zero, so I don't see how this proves that it's "easy" to get an NC-17 for language. I'll grant The Aristocrats, but what you're basically saying is a movie made up predominantly or entirely of naughty language can get an NC-17, whereas it takes only a few seconds of sex or gore.

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Old 06-22-08 | 09:12 AM
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Old 06-23-08 | 11:15 AM
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Orgazmo -- it has the PG-equivalent in some European countries, but a ridiculous NC-17 rating here.
Old 06-23-08 | 04:34 PM
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Heavy Metal was originally rated X wasn't it? Of course... that had more than just language.
Old 06-23-08 | 04:56 PM
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Regular network programming is not subject to FCC regulations after 10 PM either. Remember when NYPD Blue got in trouble for airing partial nudity after 9 PM in a different time zone? The entire reason they put the show at 10 PM was so they could push the envelope and not be in violation. The affiliate screwed up.

Any network can air whatever they want after 10 PM. They self-censor.
Can you direct me towards a source on this? I'm not saying you're wrong - I've just never known this about network TV, and I'd like to read more on it.
Old 06-23-08 | 05:09 PM
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Can you direct me towards a source on this? I'm not saying you're wrong - I've just never known this about network TV, and I'd like to read more on it.
Originally Posted by The FCC
Indecent material is protected by the First Amendment, so its broadcast cannot constitutionally be prohibited at all times. However, the courts have upheld Congress' prohibition of the broadcast of indecent material during times of the day in which there is a reasonable risk that children may be in the audience, which the Commission has determined to be between the hours of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. Indecent programming is defined as “language or material that, in context, depicts or describes, in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards for the broadcast medium, sexual or excretory organs or activities.” Broadcasts that fall within this definition and are aired between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. may be subject to enforcement action by the FCC.
Source: http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/decdoc/p...oadcasting.pdf

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Old 06-23-08 | 09:24 PM
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That is exactly what I was looking for, thanks!!
Old 06-23-08 | 09:39 PM
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From that same source: http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/decdoc/p...oadcasting.pdf

Obscene material is not protected by the First Amendment and cannot be broadcast at any time.
To be obscene, the material must have all of the following three characteristics:
  • an average person, applying contemporary community standards, must find that the material, as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest;
  • the material must depict or describe, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable law; and
  • the material, taken as a whole, must lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
So Network TV is subject to FCC regulation between 10pm and 6pm. They can't air "whatever they want," like cable can.

Incidentally, while reading about George Carlin's death today, I learned that his "7 words you can't say on TV" was ruled indecent by the Supreme Court, but not obscene. So his 7 words could be said on Network TV after 10pm.
Old 06-23-08 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay G.
From that same source: http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/decdoc/p...oadcasting.pdf

So Network TV is subject to FCC regulation between 10pm and 6pm. They can't air "whatever they want," like cable can.
It's extremely hard to prove in court that anything lacks artistic value. Ask 2 Live Crew.
Old 06-23-08 | 11:19 PM
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It's extremely hard to prove in court that anything lacks artistic value. Ask 2 Live Crew.
Be that as it may, I think if NBC aired hardcore pornography, they wouldn't be winning that court case.
Old 06-24-08 | 01:25 AM
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Be that as it may, I think if NBC aired hardcore pornography, they wouldn't be winning that court case.
It would probably help their ratings though.
Old 06-24-08 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay G.
Be that as it may, I think if NBC aired hardcore pornography, they wouldn't be winning that court case.
I'd have to disagree with that, as long as they aired it during the 10PM-6AM timeslots. I think the Supreme Court would rule in NBC's favor, because even hardcore porn is considered art (although not by everyone).

NBC would have to worry more about the loss of advertising, because that's where it would hurt.

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