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Old 04-02-08, 05:15 PM
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Its 08. Typo.

It's not a typo.
In Oct O8 it will air on Directv. In Jan.(winter) 09 it will air on NBC.
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Molly Shannon is 8 years older than Selma Blair and she's playing her mother on "Kath & Kim".
Molly can pass for pretty old, though. One of the fugliest bitches on tv, bar none.
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Originally Posted by Septemberbaby
It's not a typo.
In Oct O8 it will air on Directv. In Jan.(winter) 09 it will air on NBC.
Ok. EARLY WINTER of 09, not LATE WINTER (Christmas) like some people continue to think
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More on NBC's new season:


NBC vows to be fresh all year long

By RICHARD HUFF
DAILY NEWS TV EDITOR

Thursday, April 3rd 2008, 4:00 AM

NBC has ordered a spinoff of its hit "The Office" for next season and will bring back the critical darling "Friday Night Lights" as part of a new, year-round programming concept.

Network officials vowed yesteday that they'll offer new fare 52 weeks a year, rather than the traditional 36-week season, and will change up the schedule several times a year with new show launches and returning favorites being worked in.

NBC Entertainment President Ben Silverman said one goal will be to bring the family together at the 8 o'clock hour and to have shows with hope, heroism, inspiration and escapism.

"They're values I personally believe in," he said. "There's no question there's this zeitgeist going on; we've watched a lot of dark stuff not work and we've learned from that, and we've also realized it's tough out there."

Earlier, in describing the philosophy, Silverman said: "We will not be doing 'Moment of Truth' on NBC."

Notable departures from the lineup are "Scrubs" and "Bionic Woman."

Back will be "ER" for its 15th and final outing.

"Friday Night Lights" will return through a deal with DirecTV that will have the football drama air there at the start of the season and move to NBC later.

Among the other returning shows are "Lipstick Jungle," "Law & Order, "Law & Order: SVU," "Life, "Biggest Loser," "Celebrity Apprentice," "30 Rock," "The Office," "Medium," "My Name Is Earl," "Deal or No Deal," "Chuck" and "Heroes."

New to the lineup, and launching over the course of the year will be the dramas "My Own Worst Enemy," a drama starring Christian Slater as a mild-mannered family man who is also a government operative; "Knight Rider," a series from the movie that aired this season; "Crusoe," a drama based on the Daniel Defoe novel; "Kings," a series starring Ian McShane set in a modern metropolis under siege; "Merlin," an hour-long fantasy set in Camelot; "The Philanthropist," an hour drama about a billionaire who uses his wealth to help people in need, and "The Listener," a drama about a paramedic who can read people's minds.

"Kath & Kim" will star Molly Shannon and Selma Blair as a mother and daughter living together and is based on an Australian comedy. And in the fall, there will be four "SNL" specials with the cast of "SNL" poking fun at the elections.

Silverman wouldn't disclose the concept of "The Office" spinoff, only saying it would air after the Super Bowl and be produced by the same team behind "The Office."

NBC will also roll out two miniseries this season.
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And from the NYT:

At NBC, Supersizing the Season
By BILL CARTER

Here are some of NBC’s big promises: fewer reruns, 65 weeks of new shows, the return of sentimental favorites like “E.R.” and “Friday Night Lights” — and more product placements from advertisers in its programs.

A glimpse of the network’s plans for prime time came Wednesday when NBC invited advertising executives and journalists to hear about its program lineup and new philosophy.

After the Hollywood writers’ strike ended in February, NBC broke ranks with the other networks by saying that it was scrapping various television traditions, including the mass introducing of shows in the fall. This week the network, which has sagged in the prime-time ratings for most of the last four years, is fleshing out its vision of the network of the future.

After saying earlier that it would replace the fall season with a 52-week schedule of show introductions, NBC went a step further on Wednesday, announcing what it labeled a “superseason” of programs that will fill 65 weeks, from this June through August 2009.

Among the shows NBC intends to sprinkle throughout that expanse are a spinoff of its hit comedy “The Office,” a revival of the 1980s series “Knight Rider,” an adaptation of the classic novel “Robinson Crusoe,” and a Americanization of the most successful Australian comedy ever, “Kath and Kim.”

Saying that it would double the amount of original programming it offered 10 years ago, NBC promised a season of far fewer repeats, with none at all among the shows to appear at 10 p.m. on Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Sundays. It also committed to the old concept of keeping the 8 o’clock hour devoted to programming that a family could watch together.

Ben Silverman, the co-chairman of NBC Entertainment, acknowledged that the network is doing everything it can to try to capitalize on the big events it will control over the next year, like the Summer Olympics from Beijing and the next Super Bowl.

“I really personally believe this is the opportunity for us to make that big move,” said Mr. Silverman, who led the presentations on Wednesday. “It’s why NBC is backing us so hard with investment in original programming, and why we’re scattering the original programming all around.”

The show that will carry the biggest load is the comedy “The Office,” which Mr. Silverman originally brought to the network as a producer. NBC has ordered 28 half-hours of the show, well above the usual top network order of 24, and it is asking the same production team to create the spinoff, the details of which Mr. Silverman declined to reveal.

NBC is giving its best drama position — Monday at 10, after “Heroes” — to a new drama, “My Own Worst Enemy,” with Christian Slater, making his debut as the main character in a television series, playing a family man with an alter ego as a Jason Bourne-like super spy.

NBC will try to break comedy into a new night — Tuesday — by slotting “Kath and Kim,” the story of a mother and daughter with big personalities and bad accents (Molly Shannon and Selma Blair will play the roles), after 90-minute episodes of “The Biggest Loser.”

The idea of breaking the boundaries of the traditional season is not new. The Fox network has for years unveiled a lineup of shows in May intended to cover most or all of the next year. Invariably, that schedule has undergone huge upheaval as shows fail quickly and have to be replaced. Mr. Silverman said he was aware that “adjustments will have to be made,” but argued that advertisers were looking more and more for a longer-range sense of how to reach consumers.

Executives at NBC, a part of the NBC Universal unit of General Electric, emphasized that the main purpose of their presentations this week was to bring the advertisers into the process earlier than before and in more creative ways. The other networks will hold their analogous presentations next month, when they will parade their new shows in front of advertisers in ceremonies known as upfronts.

“I think they accomplished what they wanted to,” said Harry Keeshan, executive vice president for national broadcast at PHD in New York, a media agency owned by the Omnicom Group. “Most of our clients thought it was well worth the time.”

Mr. Keeshan said that some PHD clients were now interested in discussions “that might not have been in sync if NBC had waited another four to six weeks.”

One new deal NBC announced Wednesday was a joint promotion with the Liberty Mutual insurance company to back a new drama called “Kings,” a modern-day retelling of the David and Goliath story. The themes of the show are meant to be consistent with Liberty Mutual’s “Responsibility Project,” which promotes personal responsibility.

NBC is striving to stick to positive messages in its programs, Mr. Silverman said, noting that a common thread in its shows was people “trying to make the world a better place.”

As a contrast, he cited the hit Fox reality show, “Moment of Truth,” in which people reveal embarrassing details of their personal lives to win money. “There will be no ‘Moment of Truth’ on NBC,” he said.

That said, NBC will still offer plenty of opportunities for people to humiliate themselves. A full roster of reality shows will include new versions of “Deal or No Deal,” “The Biggest Loser,” and “Celebrity Apprentice,” and two cycles of “American Gladiators.”

NBC will also rely heavily on its “Saturday Night Live” franchise, opening the show’s season earlier than usual, on Sept. 14, and adding four original prime-time half-hour versions in October pegged to the presidential election.

Despite all the time it wants to fill with original content, NBC did not announce an inordinate number of new series — only eight until a year from this summer. But it will bring back almost all the shows that had been marginal ratings performers, including the first-season dramas “Life” and “Lipstick Jungle,” as well as one of the oldest dramas on television, “E.R.” which will be back for what is formally being called its final season.

Among the shows that will not return are last fall’s most-promoted newcomer, “Bionic Woman,” which flopped after a strong start, and the comedy “Scrubs,” which is expected to be picked up by a rival network, ABC, for a final season.

NBC also made a deal to return the much praised but low-rated drama “Friday Night Lights,” but with a twist: The satellite service DirecTV will run the series this fall for its subscribers, then NBC will start broadcasting it in January.

NBC had made much of its plan to blow up the spring tradition of unveiling a fall television schedule in May for huge audiences of advertisers. It called its event on Wednesday an “infront,” twitting its competitors, who will be sticking to the May dates.

Guy McCarter, an executive at another Omnicom agency, Greenroom Entertainment, who attended the Wednesday morning presentation, said NBC made “an impressive start.”

“I do think with Ben it’s more than just talk,” said Mr. McCarter, managing director at Greenroom Entertainment in New York.
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I skipped this season of ER (only one I missed) but since next season is the last I guess I could jump back in. I doubt I've missed much.
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I skipped this season of ER (only one I missed) but since next season is the last I guess I could jump back in. I doubt I've missed much.
The Last NBC Primetime Schedule w/o E.R.
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Carusoe sounds like NBC's answer to LOST.
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Originally Posted by zekeburger1979


It's damn funny seeing all the crazy shows that have come and went since ER began. Murder She Wrote, Coach and Full House were still on! That's crazy. Hell we are seven seasons into a different Superman related series while Lois & Clark was still on when ER began.
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Okay, this thread is now turning into an NBC fall schedule thread, when there is already another one going at the same time.

Going back to the original topic:

I assume the 13 episode order for season 3 is pretty set it stone. I haven't read any indication that there could be a 22 episode season.

Also, does anyone think the Directv premiere could hurt the numbers for NBC's run in January? I know not everyone in the U.S. has Directv, but it's bound to hurt overall viewership. Or does it not matter at all since the bill for this season is being split?
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Originally Posted by DJariya
Okay, this thread is now turning into an NBC fall schedule thread, when there is already another one going at the same time.

Going back to the original topic:

I assume the 13 episode order for season 3 is pretty set it stone. I haven't read any indication that there could be a 22 episode season.
Well 13 episodes would work great if they went back to following the football schedule.
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13 repeated Eps from DirectTV is better none!

I'll take it!
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Also, does anyone think the Directv premiere could hurt the numbers for NBC's run in January? I know not everyone in the U.S. has Directv, but it's bound to hurt overall viewership. Or does it not matter at all since the bill for this season is being split?
Does Neilsen DO ratings for a channel that specific? And does DTV even show commercials on that channel except for its own stuff?
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Wow, next season is ER's final...

I will admit that I stopped watching somewhere around season 11, but knowing that this is the final season I'll probably start checking sometime around a year from now to see how it all wraps up... hopefully they have a BANG for their final episode.
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Originally Posted by DJariya
Also, does anyone think the Directv premiere could hurt the numbers for NBC's run in January? I know not everyone in the U.S. has Directv, but it's bound to hurt overall viewership. Or does it not matter at all since the bill for this season is being split?
I'm wondering what Dtv is going to do to promote this and lure in new subscribers. It's on the front page of their website already. I'm also wondering if Dtv is going to give us subscriber's something the NBC viewers in January won't get. NOt for nothing.. but switching from cable to Dtv is a major step for alot of people.. why should they do it? It's only 3 months until it premieres on NBC.. or (gasp!)they can download it illegally...why should they go through all the trouble of switching? I happen to think that FNL is a great show and everyone should be watching... but I have to say, if it was going to the Dish Network instead.. I wouldn't switch.. I would just wait until January... UNLESS there was something I couldn't refuse. I'm not sure what that would be.. I don't think they're going to give it away for free to new customers.. but they would really have to make it worth my while.

And yes.. I think that Dtv is paying huge bucks for this and NBC is willing to take the risk of the lower ratings in January... and I for one, will probably tune in again in Jan. but I don't have a Nielson box.
Speaking of that.. At least Dtv will be able to give TRUE ratings.. they will be able to tell exactly how many of their subscribers are tuning in.. something NBC or any other Network can't say.

One more thing... if Dtv was smart.. they would have worked out a deal w/ TPTB to re-air both seasons so their subscribers who never watched .. can.

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Mmm more Julie.
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Great little interview with Jason Katims, the showrunner for FNL. Gives alot of details about season 3 and the DTV deal. It's pretty clear here that it's only a 13 episode season.

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...iday/800036898
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Cool. Sounds like they will have a great 3rd season. However, I do not have DirectTV and will simply not wait for NBC to air them. I will, much like many other's I'm sure, be finding other ways to watch these episodes. Luckily I am not a Nielsen home so my ratings do not matter, but I would obviously prefer to watch these in HD through NBC vs questionable quality on my laptop.
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All i can say is ....

I am stoked.
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Props to DTV for helping bring this great show back. As a long-time subscriber, I can't wait to torture my Comast co-workers...
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Luckily I am not a Nielsen home so my ratings do not matter, but I would obviously prefer to watch these in HD through NBC vs questionable quality on my laptop.
I will watch it OTA for HD as well...

Originally Posted by Septemberbaby
Speaking of that.. At least Dtv will be able to give TRUE ratings.. they will be able to tell exactly how many of their subscribers are tuning in.. something NBC or any other Network can't say.
And with THAT to consider, I may just DirecTivo all 13 episodes to give them ratings. Nielsen might not be interested in counting me, but I'm sure DirecTV will be!

And as for Ausiello griping about 13 and wanting a back nine? Screw that. There are plenty of FX shows that seem to BENEFIT from a shorter, tighter season (see The Shield or Damages?!?!). With less fluff needed to puff the show out to 22 episodes, the writers can concentrate on some meat this year unlike last season!

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Just saw a commercial over at my parents house for Friday Night Lights Season 3. DirecTV mentions it being "exclusively on DirectTV". Can't wait!

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