Jericho---"Oversight"---3/4/08
 

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Brand spanking new episode alert for those of you who cheated and downloaded the 1st 3 episodes!

Synopsis:

I find myself looking more and more forward to this show every week.

Spaces in thread titles! :)

second season has been pretty boring for me..i wish they would have taken the skirmish between jericho and the neighboring town a bit farther this season. It was much more interesting

DVR missed the last one, dangit. I'll have to find that first.

I totally disagree. The new government, it's politics and the apparent coup d'etat, and Hawkins working against it are far more interesting to me.

Yeah I think this is the natural progression of the story. We're done with the 'Jericho is isolated, fighting it's neighbors after the bomb' part. It's about bringing down the conspiracy and new government, though I'm not sure they can do all that in 8 or whatever episodes.

And let's face it - the Jericho being isolated plotline - they way they handled it anyway - was ridiculous. They made post-apocolyptic nuclear war look like a cakewalk....what time does the bar open?

Go to CBS.com to watch the previous episode.

Thanks for the reminder! It's been so long since I saw the 1st 3 eps.

Hot damn, that episode certainly ratcheted things up quite a bit. The first episode of the season was by far the weakest, and I think they have been getting better and better each time. These episodes require a suspension of disbelief because it's pretty obvious they have to take a number of story shortcuts to fit everything they want to cover into 8 episodes, but it's not so bad.

I do have to say that I really rather liked the standoff with the deaf girl. If she could hear, she probably wouldn't have been so eager to go out. If she could hear, it would have also been far more plausible for her to go out. When she chose to run out the house before Mimi could stop her, it made it pretty obvious somebody else had to have been there. I just don't quite get why they didn't find Mimi. That was a loose end I just don't see Ravenwood guy leaving.

OK - we had nasty downpours here and it screwed up my dish btwn the :45 and :55 of the episode. Can someone say what happened btwn when the Ravenwood guy started questioning Mimi and when Hawkins was on the cell phone with Deep Throat?

HOLY SHIT! These past two weeks have had me nervous as hell while watching.

I think it was mostly that deaf girl had a shootout with Ravenwood at the farm. No, that's not a joke.

You saw them get Dale out, right?

I just went back and looked at the map of the 25 sites. They make far too little sense if you think about it. You don't need to nuke Chicago and then waste one of your 25 on Indianapolis. You don't need to nuke both Columbus and Pittsburgh, particularly when you are also hitting Detroit. Worse than those geographic issues is the lack of any bombs in a contiguous 8 state belt from Virginia (which, I grant, would feel a heavy impact from the DC nuke) down to Louisiana. If nothing else, you ditch Indy and bomb Memphis just to contaminate more area.

I hope this show gets picked up for another season. It's really getting interesting now. I still can't believe what happened tonight!

Yeah - I saw them get Dale out and I saw her corpse. It's the part in between I'm fuzzy on. :lol:

I'm really pretty sure that's all that happened. They pulled up in their Hummer, Goetz or whatever his name is called for anybody inside to go out. Mimi told Bonnie (I'm looking up names) that they were there and Bonnie decided to go tell them Mimi wasn't there. Goetz told her he was coming in, and she ran back inside. Mimi hid in what looked like a pantry while Bonnie got out the boomstick and finished off about 4 Ravenwood guys with 5 shots of the trusty double barrel before we heard one final shot, saw that Mimi had been clipped by bullets that came flying by, and that was that.

During the time you missed, CBS took a local news break and also had a national primary break.

BTW, am I the only one utterly depressed that the AI thread has 4 times the traffic this one does? Disgusting.

What did Ravenwood honcho say to Mimi? That's when I got cut off. Did they go to the farm to basically kill everyone? What happened to Ravenwood honcho in the shootout?

We are left by the number of shots and the shot of Stanley holding Bonnie to believe that the Ravenwood guy killed Bonnie and left without discovering Mimi. I'd guess he has the ledger Mimi had at the farm. I don't see him leaving without finding and taking care of Mimi, but it appears that's what we are left to assume happened.

Before that, Ravenwood guy asked Mimi for her ledger, and she said she needed to be independent if she was going to do an independent audit. He insisted she bring the ledger in, and she clearly very grudgingly agreed to bring it in the next day for "safekeeping".

Honcho said that he wanted her ledger. They went to the farm to get it, and Bonnie told Mimi what they had done to Dale. Honcho shot Bonnie.

I'm pretty sure Bonnie was hit with an early shot through the wall and the shotgun footage from her was in her head as she lay dying from her wounds. It's how she wish things had gone.

Then why were there so many shots fired that Mimi saw? I have to say I like your creativity because that's a shooting performance that is a bit tough to swallow, but I don't think that's the way the show actually wanted us to take those events.

ETA: Besides, why wouldn't she kill the Ravenwood guy if this was a fantasy?

OK Thanks.

If they repeat these on cbs.com, I'll have to watch that part again; sigh, hopefully I can FF.

I thought that as well. But what if the purpose of the targets was to allow for the greater opportunity of a western )non California) government to be able to take hold by weakening the East (and central east), while still having some "random" elements to make it look a little haphazard as though it was terrorists?

That may be crap, but it was a thought.

And....that was a great episode. Pisses me off that people would rather watch crappy dancing, people opening boxes, crappy singing, etc. over good original programming.

Another great episode!! They just keep getting better. Only 3 left. Is that really the end of the series??

I would guess so. It's been averaging the same amount of viewers that it had when they canceled it initially last May.

Hey, all. I'm new to these threads, as I just got caught up on Jericho last weekend. Fantastic show (which is going to be all the more frustrating if they cancel it again after I've invested the time), but still and all, I'm glad I put in the effort.

I will miss the "Town on its own, post-apocalypse, surviving against threats internal and external" aspect, but I am digging the "Two Americas" conspiracy angle, and Hawkins continues to just get more and more badass.

Random thoughts:

Stanley rejoining the rebellion and going all "Hulk Smash" on Ravenwood will be fun.

Is Mrs. Greene no longer on the show?

I have never, and will never be able to buy Dale as the John Connor of the "Visitors."

This show could just be about Jake and Hawkins, with no one else in the town, and I'd still watch it.

As someone else stated - It seems hitting the East Coast was more of a priority. Plus, look at it from this vantage point... While Pittsburgh isn't a very politically important US city, it's still a HUGE producer of Steel for the country... a manufacturing necessity should a war suddenly break out between east and west...
Washington and Philadelphia are symbolic victories (both capitals at one point, both symbols of the birth of the US) As for Indianapolis, well again - as stated previously - that's a city in the west, but not a very important one... nuke it to keep up appearances... as for the belt of states you mentioned... notice a lot of farmland has been left unsullied? This new government is going to need a bread basket, afterall...

Or maybe I'm just looking way too far into this.

Anyway, great show, and I really hope it doesn't get canceled... the peanuts thing probably won't work again, right?


-Doc

They killed Deaf girl? This show has been canceled.

That was sad. I had to go back and watch her boobies in Weeds just to make me feel better.

Actually, it's been averaging 1.5 to 2M less compared to last year. Last nights #'s of 5.88M is one of, if not the lowest viewership it's had.

I really really doubt this will be picked up for another season. Even though they said last night that there are only 3 episodes left this season.

And as sad as the death of the deaf girl was, it will be the rallying point for the town to start fighting back against the corporation / government. The tide has turned.

Chris

it's on at freakin' 10pm...what did they really expect?

great show..love it love it...what a tragedy if it's canceled again...aargh, just wanna rip my hair out and scream to America: WHAT THE F IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE????

You have to wonder what reaction Cass from JFC will have. She was friends with Bonnie, and she knows the whole thing about Mimi. Or maybe D.B. Sweeney will try to bump her off too.

It's sad that they've made the show so entertaining that I'll actually miss it now. Even though it did get better towards the end of last year I still wouldn't have missed it if hadn't come back. Damn them!

Probably look forward to this show more than any other right now.

This is how it should have been from the start!

That's the way I feel. I didn't care about the initial cancellation because, frankly, the 1st season wasn't good, and I thought the nerdish nuts campaign was ridiculous. I would have never missed it. Then they brought it back, refocused the show in a very entertaining way, and threw it in a shitty timeslot so it would underperform to justify its ultimate execution just to fuck with me.

The problem is that most of the hardcore fans who sent in the nuts don't have the Nielsen box. I've visited the CBS forum for Jericho and noone there has the box.

It's not a problem involving who has the box. It's statistical modeling. It's not perfect, but it's better than any other system for how much it costs.

The problem is that the public as a whole chooses to watch dreck.

So what about the 3-5M additional Americans who are indeed watching the show live, but don't own the box. The 5.88M viewers that Nielsen estimated could easily be much more. The system is flawed.....estimating mass viewership from such a small population stinks and hoses alot of good shows like this.

I just read the new press release that said over 1.5M more Americans watched the season premiere of Jericho via DVR which increased viewership to over 8M.

What is 1.5M DVR viewers added on compared to other shows? Also, why would a network care bout DVR people who are likely skipping commercials?