Does that really matter?

When Desmond told him he thought it was 1996 and Daniel Faraday (the character) told him to get on a train and meet him at his school, I think that works better than if Jeremy Davies (the actor) told him to get on a plane and meet him on the set of Twister.

YES!! Last nights episode solidified this theory even more! The timelines, the path, Penny knowing about the island because her father got the book from Hanso, Desmond... It's all here. I am still waiting for someone to discount this theory, but it's not happening

THIS IS THE ONE!! - DO NOT READ THIS UNLESS YOU WANT TO KNOW THE PREMISE OF THE SHOW!!!

http://www.lostreview.com/2007/05/an...-abcs-lost.cfm

They would have had to with what we've seen.

Nah, that story is still just excellent fan fiction. We've already dissected it in previous threads.

This fits pretty well if the speculation that the Black Rock was pulled into the island by electromagentism is true. It would probably be powerful enough to make them sick, then.

Maybe I'm missing something, but wasn't the calendar just marking off the days as they passed? Many people I know do this.

Great episode, though. The actor who plays Desmond is fantastic.

For me, this was a top 5 all time episode of Lost. So good from start to finish.

Can't wait to see where they go from here. (I never watch the previews and try to avoid spoilers, I think the best way to enjoy this show is just to let it come to you).

Same here. Occasionally I'll accidentally see part of a preview in a commercial, but I've avoided spoilers like the plague since S2, and I personally enjoy the show even more since then. I don't even like to know whose flashback/forward we are getting in the coming week. Just one more thing to be a surprise Thursday night.

Since Desmond made contact with Penny, he's ok? And for how long? Do you think he'll need to talk to her periodically? And does he remember Sayid now?

Unbelievably good episode, that last little snippet between the two of them didn't sit right for me.

:thumbsup: Fantastic delivery of that line! Great, great epsiode.

Anything behind the days being crossed off in different colors?

Calendar

That's what it looks like to me as well: http://bp2.blogger.com/_pG1kU-zfuxM/...capture-11.jpg

At least I didn't complain because it didn't answer enough questions!

My main complaint is that it took the whole episode to explain what was going on, when I figured it out right away. I was waiting for the other shoe to drop but it never did.

Also, I'm not sure why, after explaining that the constant is something that you really care about, Faraday picks Desmond -- a dude he barely knows (in either timeline).

Well, maybe he does know more about him now? When we see his notepad in 2004, it has been 8 years since he met him.

Similar to Lorraine meeting Calvin Klein in 1955 ;)

Anyone who has teh hot for Penny should rent some of the HBO series Tell Me You Love Me. There are a couple episodes where she shows A LOT. ;)

Excellent episode.

I hope Henry Ian Cusick win an Emmy for this episode.

I think you're on to something with this.

I guess I saw it as Desmond validating his life's work, so to him, that's what he represents.

Exactly.

So, yeah, I'm not reading the whole thread, but I was finally able to watch the ep this morning at work.

Wow - that was pretty fucking good.

I took it to mean that it wasn't his 2004 conscious leaping back to 1996, but rather his 1996 conscious leaping forward to 2004. This is why he didn't know anyone in 2004, because he hadn't met them yet and the drastic shift in the reality he was living at the time caused his paranoia.

The final scene with his 2004 self calling Penny while we see his 1996 self walk from the apartment showed, to me, that his timeline continued from that point through everything else we've seen and he's whole again on the freighter in 2004.

I think he's fully aware of the intervening 8 years now - including "his friend Charlie" that Penny mentioned on the phone.

This episode blew my mind and I loved every second of it.

Mind blowing episode. Not sure if it tops the season 3 finale, but damn, definitely top 3. I'm damn glad I'm caught up. I've missed being a part of the discussions. :lol:

I was thinking that while watching the episode. If this was a 2nd or even 3rd season episode, everything that happened in "the Constant" would have been drawn out to 2-3 episodes. The pace has certainly been elevated. Makes me wonder if two more seasons is enough to cram it all in. :lol:

:lol: Behind Jin/Sun and Sayid, Desmond has remained a favorite of mine, I'm with you. I hope to hell he gets reunited with Penny.

Good call back. Nice. The ship would have definitely been pulled right through the Mist and not on a particular course leading to them all getting sick and not just one. Then the question becomes, how did Danielle escape getting sick? (speaking of, we have a Danielle and a Daniel, wtf)

Successful/unsuccessful attempts to get through the mist? We know at least one crew member got sick, so they had to attempt it at least once before.

I think a guy sent from your future self to meet you in the present to prove your time travel theory would be something he would certainly care a great deal about. Probably more than anything in the world.

Time and mind releases would explain the voices that people hear on the island. Those folks are trapped in a time they can't exist in yet still think they're on the island... maybe??

Since I was behind what was the consensus on the full plane found underwater?

Maybe I'm late to the party on this as well, but does anyone else think the opening title is a metaphor for the show? Starts off blurry gets crystal clear and blurs again towards the end. The plot starts off confusing as hell, we start to get some answers and it appears to be getting clearer only to leave us wondering when it's all said and done.

I liked this episode a lot, but there is an issue with the mouse. Faraday zapped the mouse, her conciousness went into the future where he had taught her to run the maze, and so she was able to run it when her conciousness came back. But the mouse died before Faraday teaches her to run the maze, so she never learns how to run it, and thus wouldn't have known how to run it after the expiriment. I know, time paradox and it should probably just be written off, but maybe there's more to it.

Nah, we don't know when the mouse died. The only point of reference we have is that Des was out for like 75 minutes, but we don't know when that bout of unconsciousness started. That at least covers the hour that Faraday was talking about.

Now I'm not going to say that you can just teach a mouse to run a maze in 15 minutes to an hour, but there was still enough room in the narrative of the show to allow for the instruction without causing this paradox.

Maybe Faraday is in deep love with Desmond? What else do he have? His mouse is dead.