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Originally Posted by MoviePage
Also just wanted to add that I cracked up my friends who were watching this episode with me. When Desmond was calling Penny at the end and the phone kept ringing, I said, "Hello...you've reached Penny. Please leave a message and I'll get back to you. If this is Desmond calling, I went out for pizza."
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Originally Posted by Flave
I don't get the "too out there" comments. I'll be the first to admit that my theories may be wrong. But I can almost 100% guarantee you one thing: No matter what the final explanation will turn out to be, it will definitely be "out there". Trust me. Whatever is going on on this island cannot be explained by any rational ordinary "in here" plot device.
Oh well. Ok, I give up. But if in two years time I'm proven to be right, I've got a lot of "I told you so"s saved up. :) |
Originally Posted by MoviePage
Also just wanted to add that I cracked up my friends who were watching this episode with me. When Desmond was calling Penny at the end and the phone kept ringing, I said, "Hello...you've reached Penny. Please leave a message and I'll get back to you. If this is Desmond calling, I went out for pizza."
I think "Last Comic Standing" is auditioning soon. With your horrible jokes and even worse timing, you'll be a shoe-in! |
Originally Posted by C00Ki3
It seems that only the mind travels, not the body. Therefore, Walt's present body would have to still be on the island right by Locke. Unless Walt has some other power beyond what we have seen so far from Desmond.
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Originally Posted by magiccmom
I'm probably not going to get this until I watch all episodes in a continuos matter. I have too many gaps to fill.
Desmond is an amazing actor. Has he ever gotten any recognition for this role? Emmy nods? |
Originally Posted by Baron Of Hell
I think walt is something different but I think the body might be able to travel also. I think the guy in the cabin might be stuck jumping through time at a fast rate of speed.
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Originally Posted by hahn
By "too out there", we mean that it doesn't really fit at all with the "feel" of the story as told, thus far. It's not believable because none of the show thus far hints at space travel being involved. Not even the altered sky comment. It's far too contrived, and as a result, the audience would feel cheated. And the reason is because it's too much of a left turn from where the story's been leading us. The only person who get any satisfaction out of your theory would be you, and only because you came up with it.
Why make this personal? Yes, of course I would get a certain amount of satisfaction if this theory turned out to be true. Just as I get a certain amount of satisfaction when I complete a crossword puzzle. It's an intellectual exercise and it's fun. But I think many other people (except you obviously) would find this scenario more than interesting. Just like a lot of people found Contact very interesting. I've reviewed the clues and I have almost no doubt now: The wormhole theory is almost certainly correct and if this doesn't appeal to you, well, you have two years to prepare. |
Originally Posted by Flave
I've reviewed the clues and I have almost no doubt now: The wormhole theory is almost certainly correct and if this doesn't appeal to you, well, you have two years to prepare.
As others have said, your theory is very unique and well thought out, but for many of us too many of the elements are inconsistent with what the show has put forth to date. We understand that you feel the evidence is there, but many respectfully disagree. |
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Originally Posted by Superman07
I think the big problem you are getting into here is that your are telling people that they are wrong so long as they do not believe your theory now as if it is already proven true. Frankly, I think that's starting to grate on a lot of the poster and turn the comments from them personnal.
As others have said, your theory is very unique and well thought out, but for many of us too many of the elements are inconsistent with what the show has put forth to date. We understand that you feel the evidence is there, but many respectfully disagree.
Originally Posted by Flave
I've reviewed the clues and I have almost no doubt now: The wormhole theory is almost certainly correct and if this doesn't appeal to you, well, you have two years to prepare. |
Originally Posted by Superman07
I think the big problem you are getting into here is that your are telling people that they are wrong so long as they do not believe your theory now as if it is already proven true. Frankly, I think that's starting to grate on a lot of the poster and turn the comments from them personnal.
We're having a discussion here. You tell me why you think I'm wrong, and I tell you why I think you're wrong. This is how a dialog works, no? I'm not pushing anything on anybody and if anyone took it that way, my apologies. Well, this has gone completely off the rails. No need to discuss this any further. |
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I don't think anyone is discounting a wormhole theory. It's the floating island in space run by higher beings bit that is off-putting, which you conveniently left out of that post. And again, the bold part, is that really needed?
I didn't conveniently leave anything out -- "wormhole theory" is just shorthand and you know it. A traversable wormhole can't be built by just chimps. If you buy the wormhole, you buy the advanced civilization. And the bold part was meant to be light-hearted. Ciao. |
Originally Posted by Flave
I'm not telling anyone they're wrong. I'm just proposing my theory and then defending it -- as a matter of discourse not as a personal attack.
Until then, what you dig out of your ass is just as good as what anyone else comes up with that isn't directly contradicted by the established canon (which, unlike the forces that rule the real universe, the writers can change at any time as they see fit). |
Maybe it's the central hub of the Bermuda Triangle! :eek: Or the output of the wormhole that is the Bermuda Triangle. ;) (Sorry!! Couldn't help myself. :) )
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Originally Posted by Superman07
Maybe it's the central hub of the Bermuda Triangle! :eek:
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
The remaining five episodes of this season resume on with Episode 4.09:
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Originally Posted by Mordred
Are you saying this was the last episode for 6 weeks? NOooooooo.....
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Originally Posted by lotsofdvds
Yeah the post didn't make any sense to me either. What it actually means is that they will film five more episodes for this season and the first of these new episodes will air in April.
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
The remaining five episodes of this season resume on with Episode 4.09: on April 24, 2008
Originally Posted by lotsofdvds
What it actually means is that they will film five more episodes for this season and the first of these new episodes will air in April.
Those say the same thing just worded different. |
Originally Posted by Flave
I see someone above blithely talking about teleportation and yet a wormhole is contrived? You're willing to accept the concept of time travel, yet a wormhole is contrived?
You still aren't getting the difference. They have shown us time travel with Desmond. They have shown us teleportation with the rabbit. Those theories have been given to us. We can go off those and accept them. You are taking the shadows of the island, star patterns and a 30 minute time differential and turning it into an island in space run by an advanced civilization. Your theory is different and it's as good as any other I suppose, but with what they have given us it just doesn't fit the confines the show has established. You were specifically talking to me so I must say(again), I have no problems with a wormhole theory, but why does it have to end up in space with future beings? Why not another part of the earth? I've actually loved the Bermuda Triangle aspect of it since season one. Can't find the island? It's actually 4,000 miles away through the wormhole/storm. |
Originally Posted by Superman07
Maybe it's the central hub of the Bermuda Triangle! :eek: Or the output of the wormhole that is the Bermuda Triangle. ;) (Sorry!! Couldn't help myself. :) )
it's the VILE VORTICES! seriously! this has been a theory since season 1. http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Vile_Vortices_(theory) http://www.deepinfo.com/WorldGrid.htm |
Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux
it's the VILE VORTICES! seriously! this has been a theory since season 1.
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Vile_Vortices_(theory) http://www.deepinfo.com/WorldGrid.htm |
haven't seen anything with them denying the BT possibility, but they've denied a lot of things. i wouldn't be surprised if it's out there.
i'd like to believe them, too... but would they honestly reveal the secret behind LOST if someone guessed correctly? I doubt it. |
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
You still aren't getting the difference. They have shown us time travel with Desmond. They have shown us teleportation with the rabbit. Those theories have been given to us. We can go off those and accept them.
So, are you saying that you refuse to consider my theory because it's never been talked about on Lost? Isn't that silly? The whole point is that they want to surprise you at the end; they're not going to telegraph the final explanation, no matter what it is.
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
You are taking the shadows of the island, star patterns and a 30 minute time differential and turning it into an island in space run by an advanced civilization.
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I have no problems with a wormhole theory, but why does it have to end up in space with future beings? Why not another part of the earth?
But I agree with you on one point Michael. We're beating a dead horse so let's move on. P.S. To the idiot above who was trying to educate me on the use of the word "Theory" please allow me to educate you. The word theory has several meanings. It can be used to mean a scientific framework that explains observed phenomena (as in "Theory of General Relativity"). Or it can be used to propose a hypothesis ("I have a theory about who killed the butler"). What I have written is neither a scientific "Theory" nor a scientific "Conjecture". It is speculation on what's happening on a stupid little TV show. |
Originally Posted by Superman07
Hence my half joke. :) However, if I recall correctly, the discussion a few seasons back of BT talk was quickly dismissed by the writers.
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