I don't remember it like that at all. What happened to imply that he was really there? I don't think anybody else saw him.

I think it's far simpler. Was he ever really "at peace" on the island? Since day one, his goal has been rescue. I think he just feels guilt at having to leave so many people behind to save his own ass.

Can anyone summarize this "Dark Tower" theory that has been mentioned a few times?

Oh no you didn't! Don't bring those guys up as a part of the 6. You'll get scolded because you aren't privy to the Lost spoilers!!!!!

Not bothering to read this entire thread, with a chopper like that, there's only a limited range it could fly. It would need a boat to take off from/refuel and such, unless there is another island close by. Anyone mention that? Not that it really matters to the overall plot, but it would seem to indicate there are more people closeby. If they mentioned it in the show, I must've missed it.

[edit]Ok, Ben said something about having a spy on their boat, after I posted this, so guess that confirms that.

I assumed the chopper took off from the freighter they mentioned. Remember Naomi was apparently piloting a chopper and it started going down, so she bailed. And there are obviously more people on the freighter.

I'm glad Deftones mentioned the other island: It has been brought up on other boards that the Hydra island is a good place for Team Locke to hide out if the Barracks don't work out. I'd assume if the covert team is Dharma they will know about and go to the Barracks first.

Oddly enough, remember during the six part story arc of S3 the Others had Sawyer and Kate helping to build a runway on Hydra island. What for?

That's for the aliens, remember?

The island is Scientology.

Where do you get that Naomi's peopke know about Penny's people? I don't recall anything that alluded to that.

The fact that she had the photo of both Desmond and Penny wasn't a big enough allusion for you?

Oh yeah. I feel dumb now. I usually catch/remember that stuff. It has been May since I've seen that episode.

Also, to be fair a lot of stuff seem to "remember" stuff around these parts that often never actually happened.

It is not necessarily true that the Covert team led by Naomi knew about Penny or her team, which so far equates to two guys in an artic base. Maybe Charles Widmore swiped the picture of Desmond from Penny without giving anyone the details about his daughter's activites. Maybe he doesn't even know what she's been up to.

The question is why did Naomi have a picture of Desmond while Miles has a picture of Ben? I personally think it goes back to the Swan station being destroyed.

Flight of the Navigator dude. That's the theory.

Why does Naomi have that same picture of Desmond and Penny? Didn't the two of them get that taken on the street - I thought Desmond had the copy.

We don't know that yet. Another Desmond or Penny flashback/flashforward may explain this. We still havn't found out the exact circumstances of Desmond going from the service to jail either.

Remember that the season 2 finale ended with Penny getting the call from her team stating they think they found 'it', presumably the island. Next to Penny's bed was the same exact photo Desmond had. This happened directly after the Swan was destroyed which was AFTER Desmond turned the failsafe key and relived parts of his life. They just didn't show what happened to Desmond until Season three. The photo at the end was a clue that Desmond changed things somehow.

ok, seriously - there has to be SOME significance to the pictures on the wall. I don't think it's eko in the pictures. I'm talking about the frames. I re-watched this episode again last night, and they definitely make a point of focusing on the pictures. The frames are definitely different. No way it's a continuity error. If it is, the LOST people should be ashamed, knowing how people pick this show apart.

I can buy it's a continuity error if and only if they somehow had to go back out on location and re-shoot either the scene going up or the scene coming down. They're in a rush, dealing with a homeowner who isn't happy to see them back, and they just want to get the damned shot and be out of there. Perhaps in that situation they don't worry about the pictures and figure they can fix the issue at a later date using some sort of cheap and easy effects work. The WGA strikes, the showrunners walk, and everybody forgets about it.

It's definitely NOT a continuity error.

The first time we see the pictures, we pan left from Ken Leung's head to the pictures the producers want us to see. We also see the same pictures with the same frames in two wide shots, once as Leung first comes in and the second when Leung goes up the stairs.

When Leung is finished ghostbusting, he comes down the stairs but it cuts before he gets to the pictures we've seen before. That's an interesting place to cut. The next time we see the pictures, Ken Leung looks up and it CUTS to the wall with part of the stair railings and the pictures have different frames.

If it was a continuity error, then the easy way to fix it is in the editing. When Leung says, "Not as tricky as I thought it was going to be," cut to him reaching in his pants and explaining that he's returning some of the money.
But, no, we cut to Leung's close-up looking up and then an insert shot of the pictures with different frames. Definitely deliberate.

This show is officially making me nuts. I was always curious about the brief scene with Daniel Farady at home crying at the initial news coverage of the crash for several reasons. First, why is he emotionally losing it for no apparent reason when he doesn't even know? Next, the woman, who is Dan's caretaker (as the pop-up info gives us) never shows us her face as she walks from the window (after closing it) to the kitchen to grab some eggs from the fridge. Whenever Lost doesn't show a character's face, we are guaranteed to know that actor from a previous episode which they are trying to hide from us.

I started watching this scene frame-by-frame and it seemed like this woman was holding something in her right hand as she was walking by. I got to thinking, maybe someone passed her an object from outside the window, then she immediately took it around the corner and hid it before grabbing the eggs and asking Dan what was wrong. This could be Elsa and Dan could be the Economist. Or I could simply be insane from watching this program.

My wife was watching the last ep of last year and came up with something interesting. Everyone was talking about a short casket leading to who the character inside is, what if it's a character who loses his or her legs between the Island and them getting back? Maybe in the escape? Then it could be anyone.

Another passage just sparked my interest from this episode:

[Miles calls the freighter to speak with Makowski]

Regina: Hello?
Miles: Regina, it's Miles, I need to talk to Makowski.
Regina: Makowski can't come to the phone right now.
Miles: It's important. Go get him.
Regina: Miles, he can't come to the phone right now. (adamant)
Miles: (reluctantly) Alright. Have him call me when he can.
Regina: I gotta go. (abruptly hangs up)

[Miles frustratingly disconnects the phone]

On the surface, this could seem like a throwaway scene but compare it to a similar scene on the island when Makowski is talking with Naomi and she is supposedly covering for Kate but using code as she is dying. We haven't heard from Makowski in a while and I think Regina was under duress while on the phone with Miles. Possibly at gunpoint. Maybe the man that Ben has on the boat has turned the tables and taken some hostages. Hopefully, we'll see the freighter real soon.

Maybe Regina should have said, "By the way, Miles, tell my sister I love her."

Anyway, this conversation along with Frank's order to Faraday that he hang up if Machowski answers the phone makes the "freighties" seem more interesting than on the surface.

Miles needs to talk to Machowski. Frank wants to avoid Machowski. Frank doesn't like Miles.

What this means right now, I have no idea...

Freighter Love

Just FYI, it's Minkowski.