Looked like HRG to me. That was probably the deal he made.

Too bad Peter didn't think to give Nathan some of his blood.

I'll have to go back and watch it again, but it looked like "future" Pete (or the one with the black jacket) was walking out of the press conference when Matt looked up..

Bah. Whatever. This ep was kinda weak. Hiro leaving Adam buried alive guarantees he'll be back after he finishes clawing his way to the top. Does anyone really care that Monica was rescued? For that matter, does anyone really care that Nikki is presumed dead?

I tried to make it as quick as I could...

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People on GameFAQs are theorizing that it's HRG who did the shooting, as part of his deal with the company.

Oh yeah and Bob really is an idiot when it comes to password security. Come on, "Midas"? At least that led to Elle saving the gang though.

That episode probably got us as close to where we were at the end of the first season as possible. Let's hope they do better the second time around.

I'm not saying this season stank, but it is definitely the lesser of the two seasons the way it stacks up now. I guess NBC left the door open for starting with more episodes this season by just saying the show would be back in 2008.

I think it is pretty likely HRG shot Nathan, but I'd honestly prefer a more creative outcome. Perhaps Peter brought Nathan back from the future and Nathan killed himself. Yeah, I like that. :)

:lol: Now that would be original.

Oh wait...no it wouldn't.

But, yeah, I would expect Kring & Co. to have it be Noah. It just looked to me like Peter. :shrug:

Also, now that the virus is "destroyed", where does that leave Pete's Irish lass?

Great ending. I doubt Nikki and Nathan will end up dead. Sad to see it end.

Some more thoughts...Is Bob the entire company?

And I was really hope to see Elle fry her father but alas we'll have to wait till next season.

Doesn't Adam at least need oxygen to live?

And we knew Monica (AKA Black Black Cat) would survive. The picture of her on the cover of the comic book (that Isaac seems to somehow still create) shows her with that dagger we saw in the vault.

It wouldn't be original, but it would give us a glimpse into how the show regards time travel. Would future Nathan disappear? Die? Would he even be able to accomplish the goal?

That's the really funny part about all of this to me -- I imagine she's just gone. Say what you will about Adam, but unleashing the virus was the most likely way for Peter to achieve his stated goal of finding and saving his Irish girlfriend.

I imagine we'll never hear about her again.

Did anyone else notice... when Peter destroyed the virus, the Company symbol was visible in the ashes in his hand?

1. What happens when Adam runs out of air?

2. Is the effect of the blood temporary? If they get hurt again, will it not cure them again? Is it not enough of a transfusion?

3. Sylar : Spinach Can :: Magneto : Chess Piece

Yeah, the Popeye theme started going through my head.

Yeah, and I felt it was the worst usage of the symbol yet. I can accept how it coincidentally appears all over the place throughout the world, but it magically appears when Peter uses nuclear radiation on a vial?

No. It was Abby Normal's brain.

That's IGOR (Not EEgor).

All my thoughts exactly. Though I was thinking for #1--What happens when Adam starves of hunger or thirst?

Peter's Sly Stallone mouth was distracting during the final scene with Nathan.

Overall, the season was mostly boring, too many characters, too many bad storylines, too many plot holes (even in the couple of good storylines), and very predictible at times. So, thumbs down.

Way to bungle yourself into a rescue, Elle. What a hero you are becoming.

Way to go Nathan. You want to expose the truth about super-heroes to the world, so you began with a long, rambling preamble that makes no sense to anyone watching. Why not fly in, have Peter materialize beside you, and Parkman ... uh, make Cokie Roberts do a pole dance.

And really, how dead can he be. Peter just has to cut himself and dribble some blood in his mouth.

The body walking away at the end looked a little too slender to be Noah.

Also, what was up with the incredibly soft halves of the picture whenever they did an over the shoulder interview shot, mostly in the Company compound at the beginning, but later on as well. It was really out of focus and didn't look good at all.

About Adam's death being similiar to the ending of another show:


Edit: Well, "death" in an "he's out of the way, for the time being" sense.

Now this is what should have happened!

She's asleep on her front porch waiting to be woken by Marty....errrr, Peter. ;)


I guess it's like when Angel got buried at sea by Conner at the end of Season 3. He can't die, but he'll sure be suffering in the meantime.


As for the episode itself, it was alright. But again, there were massive plotholes. Why was Peter still refusing to read Adam's mind? Why didn't Hiro tell Peter about Adam trying to release the virus back in the late 70's? Why didn't Peter walk through the safe? How exactly is the public still unaware of the existence of gifted people at this point?

I'm also not too keen on the idea of Sylar being the big bad yet again. I hope the ending of this episode is a red herring, cuz his character is completely played out by now. Just kill him already.

It is. He will have an accomplice.

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No! Not Mr. Muggles! Why? Why?

totally was channeling the Magneto moment but the same could be said for much of the series, not like Pete didn't just do it to the vault moments earlier

I did like the symbolism of the spinach can
spinach = power = Sylar's powers returning to him
now if he makes a comment next season about gladly paying someone Tuesday for a hamburger today then that season will get a thumbs down from me as well

I seem to remember that in season 1 as well. I find it distracting as well, but I think they feel it gives a comic book vibe or something.

:up: on the episode from me. As cheered when both heroes fell. One out of joy, the other because it caught me off guard and thus became out of joy as well.

True

I do think it's sort of annoying that the writers managed to end Volume 1 and Volume 2 with a Sylar cliff-hanger.

I really liked how they handled the "death" of Kensei/Adam. It could've been overtly flashy with a battle between Hiro or Peter, but it actually turned out to be pretty cool.

Also I was hoping that Maya would die or at least be able to focus her power to a single target. Unfortunately none of those things happened in this episode :)

I was starting to get into the show again. As the OP stated though, it's too bad so much time was wasted to finally get the show on it's feet.

For anyone looking to pick up the Heroes graphic novel, only pick it up if you are a HUGE fan of the show. I picked it up for $30 over the weekend and it barely touches on any of the main character storylines. The only backgrounds we get more information are with Hana (ability to speak through internet from Season 1), a little background (generic) information on Eden and more information on how Linderman and Pa Patrelli know each other. It's definitely worth a read but just be careful before dropping $30.

That's what I thought. It didn't even occur to me that it could've been HRG. But then again, HRG is my favourite character, so I could be being a bit in denial about him possibly having killed Nathan.

Speaking of which, I knew he'd get shot when he was giving that speech. If he stays dead then the writers have big balls, because Nathan's a huge character and one that I thought would be safe.

I didn't make that connection, but good point.

I can't remember for the life of me what it's called, but it's a specific filming technique. It's used all over ST:TMP.

Anyhoo, I can't believe they brought Sylar back. That sucks giant donkey balls.

Oh, and I cheered when Niki died. The only thing that would've made that scene better is to have had Mika and Monica die with her.

Dude, you're putting way more thought into the show than even the writers have.

No, that was the brain of the only writer on the show that questioned this season's plot.

so technically the only person to die is nikki, yes? i assumed that the two heroes falling = nikki and maya. even though technically maya got resurrected, she did "die" for a short period of time.

and i know it's debatable, but i don't think nathan counts because he should be able to heal since he got adam's blood, right? i know someone earlier questioned whether the tranfusion would be a one-time thing or whether it would last, so i guess the writers have to come up with an answer for that. but i'm assuming it will fall under the latter because i doubt they would kill nathan off.

overall, i thought the ep was pretty good. the whole destroying the virus was kinda anti-climatic. i would've enjoyed a good fight scene between hiro/adam again. i know it technically wasn't intended as a season finale, so perhaps they were storing up the budget for the actual season finale, but i want a big blow-out brawl at SOME point in the show. the little uses of powers here and there are cool, but not really enough.

They should have killed Sylar. To keep him on just to have him on is a waste. Bring on someone knew instead of us having to deal with him all over again.
Didn't really care for the whole Nathan clip thing but sad to see him go.
Pretty good finale but not great.

I must say it was a better finale than the first season, but man oh man, sometimes you just wanna reach into the TV and slap those characters.

i thought the same thing. lack of oxygen would be a pretty serious problem for the brain.

Honestly, I think they left it open ended enough so that there might be no "Heroes" dead. We actually didn't see Nicki still in the building when it blew up, and there are way too many Nathan lives possibilities.

All told it was kind of a waste of a year. Granted the writer's strike didn't help, but it was set up to a whole lot of nothing. Sylar was lame. The two banditos ended up going nowhere. Claire was lame. Peter spent most of the season acting like a moron. The show did get better as the season when along though so I'll keep up with it whenever it comes back.

what hump?

Might have something to do with the cut healing before said "dribble" could occur? :hscratch:

Kind of agree. And while on the subject, in the flashback "Four Months Ago" episode, did we ever find out how Sylar got away from the plaza and ended up in South America? Perhaps it wasn't as important or relevant as the other facts revealed in that episode to tie things together, but who helped him? Maybe I just missed that. Was it the Company as well? :hscratch:

I'm satisfied with this episode if this is the last one until next fall. It wasn't a spectacular arc, but I'd watch the entire thing again if they end up showing the complete "volume" in repeats come January...