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TGM 11-03-07 08:42 PM

TV: Worst.. sophomore.. slump?
 
Obviously YMMV, but.. IMO certainly Twin Peaks, hands down, followed closely by Lost. Heroes is getting there. Any others?

Michael Corvin 11-03-07 09:26 PM

I can't agree on Lost. Sure it did a lot of things differently than people were expecting, but it was still a hell of a season. I think what killed it for most people was the time change and the constant breaks.

GoldenJCJ 11-03-07 09:26 PM

Last year Friday Night Lights was appointment TV. This year I couldn't care less. I think I've even deleted an episode or two from my DVR without even watching it.

Ephemeral_Life 11-03-07 09:44 PM

I agree with the second season of Lost - thankfully, the third turned out to be much better.

movieking 11-03-07 09:45 PM

Heroes.

kvrdave 11-03-07 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by movieking
Heroes.

It is certainly shaping up that way.

Jimmy James 11-03-07 10:07 PM

LOST shaped up a lot like I think Heroes is going to shape up -- the first part of the season wasn't very good, but they got back into a groove about a quarter of the season in if I'm remembering the timing right.

hahn 11-03-07 10:37 PM

Heroes...but I didn't really like Season 1 all that much either. I still maintain that the writers for this show are hacks. It's just becoming more obvious this season.

MrX 11-03-07 10:41 PM

Dark Angel

MechanicalMan 11-03-07 11:07 PM

Twin Peaks was the first thing I thought of, but I still loved season 2 for the most part. Season 2 of Heroes has been awful, but I didn't like season 1.

madcougar 11-03-07 11:09 PM

I loved the first season of My Name is Earl, but thought the show lost a lot of it's charm during the second season. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed it but I really loved the first season.

HE Pennypacker 11-03-07 11:13 PM

24.

Proceeded by a junior slump a senior slump and so on and so on.

TheKing 11-04-07 01:04 AM

I can't believe Desperate Housewives hasn't been mentioned.

Tracer Bullet 11-04-07 01:17 AM


Originally Posted by TheKing
I can't believe Desperate Housewives hasn't been mentioned.

I came in here to post that exact show. :lol:

DH should have been one season, in my opinion.

Goat3001 11-04-07 01:22 AM


Originally Posted by TheKing
I can't believe Desperate Housewives hasn't been mentioned.


Yep. That was my first thought. DH went from being great in its first season to being unbearable in its second.

I disagree on Lost. The first season was amazing but I wouldn't call the second season a slump. It was still great TV, just not as good as the first.

I thought Heroes was getting there too but its been better the last few episodes.

gatoinfeliz 11-04-07 01:30 AM

Twin Peaks can't really be mentioned since ABC slaughtered it creatively. If I remember correctly, David Lynch had to seriously compromise and by doing so, the show lost practically all its viewers. I remember reading that he didn't want to reveal the killer at all but ABC forced his hand.

Desperate Housewives hands down. The 3rd season could have been great but Marcia Cross halted any momentum they had going.

Although not really successful, Roswell is another one that comes to mind. I loved the first season but the WB meddled with the creator and he changed the feel of the show from being a sorta drama to a strange science fiction story that for the most part made no sence. The 3rd season that aired on UPN for the most part was awful.

wmansir 11-04-07 04:44 AM

Prison Break. Veronica Mars.

The reason is the same for both shows. They had a solid single season premise which they resolved (VM to a greater degree) and after that it was obvious they were improvising.

After rereading the thread title I have to say I don't think these are the worst slumps, because neither show went strait into the crapper or anything, but they definitely had a sharp decline in quality.

Tscott 11-04-07 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by MrX
Dark Angel

This.

Snowmaker 11-04-07 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by MrX
Dark Angel

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...net/joshua.jpg


'nuff said!

Patman 11-04-07 07:25 AM

Carnivale
Dead Like Me

madara 11-04-07 08:01 AM

Yeah DA is big one. I have to add X-Files was never same for me starting with season six after that awesome movie. The move and whole Samantha thing were very unsatisfying. Just watched Sopranos 6P2 and after avoiding all hoopla I found the whole season unneeded and that was from a fan that actually like slower character stuff like horse or dream ep etc.

WallyOPD 11-04-07 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by gatoinfeliz
Although not really successful, Roswell is another one that comes to mind. I loved the first season but the WB meddled with the creator and he changed the feel of the show from being a sorta drama to a strange science fiction story that for the most part made no sence. The 3rd season that aired on UPN for the most part was awful.

I blind bought the first season when it was on sale for $15 and when I was halfway through watching it I went out and bought the last 2 seasons. What a bait and switch they pulled on me. :(

TGM 11-04-07 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by madara
Yeah DA is big one. I have to add X-Files was never same for me starting with season six after that awesome movie. The move and whole Samantha thing were very unsatisfying. Just watched Sopranos 6P2 and after avoiding all hoopla I found the whole season unneeded and that was from a fan that actually like slower character stuff like horse or dream ep etc.

Sophomore = 6? :) I pity the educational system in WI if that is the case. :) :)

Michael Corvin 11-04-07 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by TallGuyMe
Sophomore = 6? :) I pity the educational system in WI if that is the case. :) :)

:lol: I was just going to post the same thing.

Sparrow 11-04-07 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by WallyOPD
I blind bought the first season when it was on sale for $15 and when I was halfway through watching it I went out and bought the last 2 seasons. What a bait and switch they pulled on me. :(

I'm really enjoying Season 1 of Roswell and will use Netflix for Season 2, to see if I have the same sentiments.

For me, Dark Angel is #1, followed very closely by Desperate Housewives. I've not been able to watch another episode of DH since 'getting' through the first few episodes of Season 2. Major letdown for me on both shows.

maingon 11-04-07 09:39 AM

I think Dark Angel Second season started off weak, but the last half I thought was very good, I really liked the second season finale.

I would Say 24, even though I loved season 2 and 3. My problem was they kept repeating themselves every season, Always having a mole in CTU, etc.

starseed1981 11-04-07 10:23 AM

In recent history: Desperate Housewives , Lost

matta 11-04-07 10:57 AM

Veronica Mars.

Doughboy 11-04-07 02:21 PM

Wow, no votes for The O.C.? Aside from the Oliver storyline, Season 1 was outstanding. Season 2 was an absolute mess.

Jimmy James 11-04-07 02:29 PM

I think Desperate Housewives has a stone cold lock on the prize. Good call there.

BTW, I think it's hilarious that somebody in this thread found a way to both crap on the first season of Heroes and then suggest it has had a major slump in its second. Isn't the point here that the first season has to be far and away better than the second?

Cancer Man 11-04-07 04:36 PM

Lost on hindsight had a very good second season in the long run (ditto for the second season of new Doctor Who), I never liked 24 to begin with, Ugly Betty is holding steady but somehow doesn't feel so special as last year, Prison Break had a suprisingly decent second season (it out-24'ed 24), but Heroes seems to be in genuine decline with a rambling but enjoyable first season setting up a excellent premise that has been thrown away on almost complete and utter drivel...

madara 11-04-07 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by TallGuyMe
Sophomore = 6? :) I pity the educational system in WI if that is the case. :) :)

Sorry with my MS and how my brain processing info I dont see words in proper context at times. Your right I didnt understand Sophomore thing ala second season but elite dvdtalkers are always there to make a person feel unintelligent and like crap.
:)

Gizmo 11-04-07 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by gatoinfeliz
Although not really successful, Roswell is another one that comes to mind. I loved the first season but the WB meddled with the creator and he changed the feel of the show from being a sorta drama to a strange science fiction story that for the most part made no sence. The 3rd season that aired on UPN for the most part was awful.

I thought Season 2 was much better then Season 1. I preferred the Sci-Fi feel over the romantic angle.

lordwow 11-04-07 04:56 PM

The OC.

chris_sc77 11-04-07 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Snowmaker

I strongly agree. The 2nd season was embarrassing. Ant featured some of the most stupid characters since Jar-jar

Tscott 11-04-07 05:23 PM

I would second the votes for Veronica Mars and Roswell, except I consider both of those as being "junior" slumps. Both second seasons were decent.

btlives 11-04-07 06:53 PM

Joan Or Arcadia really screwed the pouch
in its 2nd and final season.

If any Friday night series had a chance,
the writers f'ed it up big time.

As for Roswell....It made it thru a network
change and it actually was not that bad.

MadonnasManOne 11-04-07 07:25 PM

Desperate Housewives Season 2 as the worst sophomore slump? Granted, it wasn't on par with Season 1, but, I would say that it was still decent. In fact, when the Season 2 DVD set came out, being able to watch it in a much quicker timeframe than is possible on television, it was even better. I think people unfairly judge Season 2. Then, you've got people who have gone as far as to stop watching the show, after Season 2. I think that's crazy, because Season 3 almost reached the greatness of Season 1 (it would have, if Marcia Cross hadn't gone and got herself knocked up ;) ), and I believe Season 4 is amazing, so far.

But, whatever. To each their own.

saoirse 11-04-07 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by TallGuyMe
Obviously YMMV, but.. IMO certainly Twin Peaks, hands down, followed closely by Lost. Heroes is getting there. Any others?

SINNER!

Twin Peaks ruled all the way through.

I would say Heroes though.

7Keys 11-04-07 08:30 PM

Well, I agree that Heroes has stunk it up this season (Season 2).

However, a slump suggests that a show recovered from the decline. Slumps are usually a temporary drop in performance followed by a rebound in quality.

So, I think that should eliminate Heroes and the other shows that have only lasted two years. You can't call it a slump if it hasn't recovered yet.

At least that's how I've always understood the word "slump" to mean...short term decline.


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