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JasonF 10-23-07 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Jadzia
Has it been revealed what Ma Petrelli's powers were yet?

Not explicitly, but there were several scenes last season that went something like this:

Claire: I have to stay in New York and help save the world! It's the most important thing ever!
Ma Petrelli: You shouldn't stay in New York. Come to Paris with me.
Claire: Yeah, OK. I'll go to Paris!

This leads me to believe that Ma Petrelli has some sort of persuasive power.


Was Pa Petrelli a hero?
No -- the webcomics (which are considered Official Continuity by the people who do the show) reveal that he was a regular human (who served in Vietnam alongside Linderman).

The webcomics from Season 1 are being reprinted in hard copy in a few weeks, by the way:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...ML._SS500_.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/Heroes-One-Var...3185159&sr=8-4

kiddk1 10-23-07 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by Liver&Onions
And I guess we know where Peter got his electricity power from.

I believe he got it from Ted Sprague.

also when nikki had bob up against the wall by his neck and he was about to die, why didnt he turn her into gold to save his life?

CaptainMarvel 10-23-07 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by TheNightFlier
Didn't she not get into the program due to her family situation not because of her intelligence?

They didn't give her the position specifically because of her family situation, but the manager made a point to say she did well, but not exceptionally well, on her testing.

Jimmy James 10-23-07 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by CaptainMarvel
They didn't give her the position specifically because of her family situation, but the manager made a point to say she did well, but not exceptionally well, on her testing.

Yes, but consider that it appears that she either displayed her power for the first time during the scenes we saw or displayed it for the first time she noticed. If super intelligence would have to come about as a side effect of her power, it just might not have taken yet.

Jadzia 10-23-07 08:50 PM

She might have to watch someone else acing the test.

Timber 10-23-07 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by kiddk1
I believe he got it from Ted Sprague.

Ted was a living bomb, he couldn't create lightning. It's fairly obvious that Peter and Lightning Mars have met and she might have been the one that put him in the container.

actionjackson29 10-23-07 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by Timber
Ted was a living bomb, he couldn't create lightning. It's fairly obvious that Peter and Lightning Mars have met and she might have been the one that put him in the container.

Although, he probably did get the power from her, Ted could do an electromagnetic pulse.

Bandoman 10-24-07 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by kiddk1
also when nikki had bob up against the wall by his neck and he was about to die, why didnt he turn her into gold to save his life?

Because then he would have had a metal hand grasping his throat.

asianxcore 10-24-07 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by the big train
I'm back to being convinced that Kensei is the mystery guy. What would really be the point of Hiro's story if he isn't? The photo still troubles me. Kensei really shouldn't look any older than he did in 1671 if his powers of regeneration keep him immortal. So he either isn't in the photo, or he's next to Mrs. Petrelli and he makes himself look older.

I've been thinking about this too. Someone on the board posted last week about Kensei maybe being in the Twelve group photo.

As I mention in that thread, the show is really heavy about connections. It would be silly to introduce a character like Kensei into the series only to have a physical form to the "Godsend" symbol and for Hiro to be Kensei's "Robin". There is definitely a deeper connection that I'm interested in finding out.

After last week's episode and this one, I am really enjoying Parkman's storyline. I thought finding out that Parkman's dad was the "Nightmare Man" was cool and now all of this in the next episode. It will be interesting to see how fast (or slow) Parkman's powers progress. I also do have to mention that Parkman's dad has pretty sweet powers. The illusion/nightmare thing is pretty cool compared to the lame things Candice did with hers power.

Also count me in the group of people who enjoyed this episode even more without Claire/West and Maya/Alejandro.

Sylar is one of my favorite characters in the show and it's sort of a bummer we'll only see him when Maya/Alejandro show up.

Kevin M. Dean 10-24-07 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by asianxcore
I've been thinking about this too. Someone on the board posted last week about Kensei maybe being in the Twelve group photo.

What if Kensei always works in the background through his children.... the man in the photo being a son he had long ago... Kristen Bell being a daughter he's had much more recently..... leaving it open for him to be the father, grandfather, great-grandfather, etc. of some of the other characters. Perhaps they're all in some way decedent from him, which may explain the appearance of Kensei's logo everywhere. He's probably traveled the world, spreading his seed so-to-speak and the result is the current conflict between his own progeny... thus Generations.

JasonF 10-24-07 08:02 AM

While I do think we'll eventually see Kensei in the 21st century, a big theme of this season has been the connection between the past and the present. In that sense, it wouldn't be at all inappropriate to confine Kensei to medieval Japan.

cdollaz 10-24-07 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by Bandoman
Because then he would have had a metal hand grasping his throat.

Funny stuff.

DrRingDing 10-24-07 09:46 AM

All of this theorizing about Kensei being blurred person in the photo and everybody's neglected to mention the fact that, in order to have had both Nathan and Peter as children, he would have to be transported into the future BUT sometime in the 60s or 70s, probably. Otherwise, he couldn't be their father...
-ringding-

A-aron 10-24-07 09:56 AM

If Kensei is immortal, why would he need to be transported at all? Since he would have been alive he just would have been in the right place at the right time (twice).

xVladx 10-24-07 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by Bandoman
Because then he would have had a metal hand grasping his throat.

We also don't know the extent of his powers. The only thing we've seen him turn to gold was a metal spoon. For all we know, his power only works on non-organic objects, or it could be possible that it only works on metal.

Birrman54 10-24-07 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by Kevin M. Dean
What if Kensei always works in the background through his children.... the man in the photo being a son he had long ago... Kristen Bell being a daughter he's had much more recently..... leaving it open for him to be the father, grandfather, great-grandfather, etc. of some of the other characters. Perhaps they're all in some way decedent from him, which may explain the appearance of Kensei's logo everywhere. He's probably traveled the world, spreading his seed so-to-speak and the result is the current conflict between his own progeny... thus Generations.

This is the most logical tie in for Kensei and future events I've heard thus far.

orangecrush 10-24-07 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by achau9598
If Kensei is immortal, why would he need to be transported at all? Since he would have been alive he just would have been in the right place at the right time (twice).

I think that if Kensei's power is the same as Claire's then he would not be imortal. Claire survived the fire as a baby with her power and has grown older at a normal rate. It does not make sense (not that it has to really make sense) that she would live forever growing older.

pinata242 10-24-07 10:36 AM

Parkman's abilities have developed over time. Who's to say that Claire's haven't moved from tissue regeneration to tissue persistence? It's entirely possible she can't grow older?

It's also possible that Kensei doesn't have the exact same power as Claire so that the comparisons might be moot.

Even if Kensei did grow older but can't die, he'd only be around 300. That's nothing in Biblical terms.

mrhan 10-24-07 10:41 AM

It would have been cool if CopyCat was actually watching a real Bruce Lee clip instead of an actor playing Bruce Lee.

Yavin 10-24-07 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by mrhan
It would have been cool if CopyCat was actually watching a real Bruce Lee clip instead of an actor playing Bruce Lee.

Probably was the least expensive way for the show's creators to go, since Universal distributed Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story and owns NBC.

DrRingDing 10-24-07 10:49 AM

My question is: is Sylar's father in the picture? Heh heh...
-ringding-

Liver&Onions 10-24-07 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by Baron Of Hell
Many people often have dreams where people are talking backwards.

Sure fair enough - but what were they saying. was it important?

Liver&Onions 10-24-07 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by actionjackson29
Although, he probably did get the power from her, Ted could do an electromagnetic pulse.

But his pulse wasn't blue.

If you remember the Future episode last season, they cockteased us with a Sylar/Peter showdown. I think Sylar had Ted's color, and Peter had the blue electricity...

pinata242 10-24-07 11:38 AM

I think it was reversed. Peter had fire and Sylar had blue/ice going on.

I believe in the comics we saw Peter using lightning to break Nikki & others out of prison with Hiro in the future.

rfduncan 10-24-07 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by JasonF
The webcomics from Season 1 are being reprinted in hard copy in a few weeks, by the way:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...ML._SS500_.jpg

By "in a few weeks", you may mean THIS FRIDAY according to the NBC Store!
http://www.nbcuniversalstore.com/det...v=nbunbcnowher


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