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Originally Posted by lotsofdvds
I seriously doubt that could happen in that short amount of time. The entire cast and crew were essentially "fired" by NBC. There's no way they could get back up and running so quickly.
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WRITERS, PRODUCERS REACH TENTATIVE DEAL Deal points revealed By DAVE MCNARYThe WGA has finalized its tentative agreement with the majors and will present details of the pact to members today in meetings in Los Angeles and New York. Those meetings — set for the Crowne Plaza in Gotham and the Shrine in Los Angeles — are expected to serve as a barometer for WGA leaders to determine whether the deal’s acceptable to the 10,500 striking writers. The WGA West board of directors and the WGA East Council will meet Sunday to formally endorse the contract. And writers could be back at work as early Monday, depending on whether the WGA’s ruling bodies decide whether to end the three-month strike at those Sunday meetings. Leaders of the WGA made the announcement of the finalized deal early Saturday after spending much of Friday meeting with lawyers over the contract language. WGA West president Patric Verrone and WGA East prexy Michael Winship sent a message to members that stressed the gains made in the new-media sector. “It is an agreement that protects a future in which the Internet becomes the primary means of both content creation and delivery,” they said. “It creates formulas for revenue-based residuals in new media, provides access to deals and financial data to help us evaluate and enforce those formulas, and establishes the principle that, ‘When they get paid, we get paid.’ “ Verrone and Winship said in the message that the time has come to end the strike and cited the “enormous personal toll on our members and countless others.” “As such, we believe that continuing to strike now will not bring sufficient gains to outweigh the potential risks and that the time has come to accept this contract and settle the strike,” they said. “Much has been achieved, and while this agreement is neither perfect nor perhaps all that we deserve for the countless hours of hard work and sacrifice, our strike has been a success.” The finalized deal came a week after the Feb. 1 breakthrough in informal talks between WGA leaders — Verrone, negotiating committee chief John Bowman and WGA West exec director David Young — with News Corp. president Peter Chernin and Disney topper Robert Iger. The resolution of the strike will enable TV networks to salvage the remaining TV season and pilot season along with permitting scribes to begin working again on film scripts. The end to the strike would also permit the Academy Awards telecast on Feb. 24 to proceed without disruption. Members have remained strongly supportive of Verrone throughout the strike so it would be a surprise if the pact isn’t approved. Several of the board’s members are hardliners who were openly critical of the compensation terms to which the DGA agreed last month but Verrone will be able to tout gains in compensation for shows and films streamed on the Internet. Verrone and Winship’s message singled out WGA jurisdiction and separated rights in new media, residuals for Internet reuse, enforcement and auditing tools, expansion of fair market value and distributor’s gross language. The WGA leaders have been under pressure to be able to claim a victory in the talks that would justify the strike. But there is also widespread sentiment in the industry that the WGA strike helped pave the way for the DGA to achieve the gains made in its contract. The WGA’s streaming deal still included a combination of a flat fee for the first year (excluding a two- to three-week window of free usage for promotional purposes) followed by a percentage of distributor’s gross. The WGA’s proposed pact on downloads is identical to the DGA deal, which more than doubles the residual payments from the old homevid formula for titles that sell more than 100,000 units. The WGA’s terms also mirror the DGA agreement on new media jurisdiction, giving the guilds jurisdiction over projects with budgets of more than $15,000 per minute, $300,000 per program or $500,000 per series, whichever is lowest. Most of the details of the pact were presented Friday at a strike captains meeting with WGA leaders stressing to the captains that the membership needs to view the deal as a pragmatic way to end the strike under the best terms available. The most significant opposition is coming on the issue of the promotional window on ad-supported streaming. The objections center on concerns that TV viewing will be quickly migrating to the Intenet before the end of the contract, given current viewing trends. Speculation had been going around since the Feb. 1 breakthrough in negotiations that the length of the window would be shorter than terms in the DGA deal — 17 days for continuing shows, 24 for new shows. But the window matches the DGA’s. To some WGA members familiar with the current workings of streaming, that’s unnacceptable due to current data showing that the lion’s share of streaming views takes place within the first three to five days with the majority often in the first 24 hours. Indeed, reaction to the deal points in the blogosphere on Saturday morning has been decidedly mixed, with much of the criticism pointed at the length of the promotional window. “How can this be a good deal when everyone was yelling (that) the DGA deal was bad?,” read one comment on the United Hollywood blog. “There’s still that 17 day/24 day window which is SO SO BAD.” “Family Guy” scribe Patrick Meighan described himself as “nominally on the fence on this deal” but said in a United Hollywood post that he felt the shift to distributor’s gross in the third year of the pact “should end up being a much better deal for writers than the DGA deal.” The wide range of opinions on the merits of the pact could complicate WGA leaders’ efforts to gauge at Saturday’s meetings whether the pact would pass a ratification vote. The lukewarm responses from some vocal members have raised the possibility of the guild staying on strike during the 10-day ratification process. WGA boards could also opt at Sunday’s meetings to trigger a special 48-hour ratification process, though that may not be as attractive if there’s significant dissent expressed at Saturday’s meetings. |
‘When they get paid, we get paid.’ “ |
Originally Posted by DJariya
FYI
The chart on TV Guide has been updated. House will get 4-6 more episodes before the season is over. Looks like no new episodes for my favorite new fall shows this season (Life, Pushing Daisies, Dirty Sexy Money, Chuck). With the way he worded it though, it seems like they'll be back in the fall. Well, I wasn't worried with Pushing Daisies given the ratings, but more the others. Scrubs will probably shoot 4 more episodes but it's unclear whether they'll air on NBC or go to DVD (what!?). Lost may get another 6 episodes, bringing the season total to 14 out of the expected 16. 18 episode season 5 then? No word on Heroes, though Tim Kring has said he'd prefer to start fresh in the fall. 5-10 (please be 10... please be 10...) more episodes of 30 Rock. |
If anyone visits the United Hollywood blog, there is still a shit load of writers who aren't happy with this new contract.
www.unitedhollywood.com However, this blog is reporting that the most writers should be back to work by Monday. http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/ |
Here's an interesting quote from a new LA Times story:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...2.story?page=2 Andrew Smith, a writer for "The View," said he was suspicious of the agreement because he doesn't trust the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers. But he said that if the WGA leaders recommend that the members back it, he'll go along. "I'm broke and I want to get back to work Monday," Smith said. |
Originally Posted by wetsprockets
Lost may get another 6 episodes, bringing the season total to 14 out of the expected 16. 18 episode season 5 then?
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Originally Posted by RichC2
But theres the thing, the WGA has about 10,500 members. There's 300+ million people in the US, are you saying those 10,500 people are the only ones that could write a movie? And unlike replacing somebody like Tom Hanks, not nearly as many people are going to care that the script was written by Joe Humdrum instead of Roberto Orci or Alex Kurtzman (whose last movie could have been written better by some 10 year olds.)
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Originally Posted by lordwow
If you want to see what happens when you let the public write their own movies, go look at Youtube. It's like a sea of crap.
In any event, I just got a message from a writer friend that the strike is over. The WGAw held a meeting tonight and the terms were favorably received. The WGAe held a similar meeting earlier in the day with the same outcome. He also said that ratification will be happening on the 48-hour schedule, not the 10-day. |
Originally Posted by RoboDad
That may be true, but how is that any more important than when you let the public produce, direct, or star in their own movies? Even with a great script, if you have lousy directing, acting or producing, you can still get a lousy product. All of the components are equally necessary.
In any event, I just got a message from a writer friend that the strike is over. The WGAw held a meeting tonight and the terms were favorably received. The WGAe held a similar meeting earlier in the day with the same outcome. He also said that ratification will be happening on the 48-hour schedule, not the 10-day. That's not to say there aren't talent writers in the public (and some who have the writing ability but not the production skills), but a majority of the public can't write well, and I don't think Hollywood wants a bunch of mediocre or untrained writers running their shows and films. |
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
No, just two less episodes of LOST.
* And by "two hours long", I mean two full hours of NEW content. Not a new hour prefaced with a recap show. |
Leno will finally be able to book a real guest for the Tonight Show. Strike was the best thing that ever happened to Arsenio Hall's career. Letterman's & Ferguson's Worldwide Pants monopoly on real guests is over.
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It's only a monopoly if you choose to exploit it. Can't talk about Craig, but it's been business as usual at Dave's.
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
No, just two less episodes of LOST.
A settlement would also be welcomed by TV viewers, who are eager to see some of their favorite shows return to the air with fresh episodes and are hoping midseason shows such as "Lost" will have complete runs. But first the producers and writers have their work cut out for them. Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, the show runners of "Lost," will today begin the complicated task of figuring out what they should do with the second half of their season. When the strike began, eight episodes of the fourth season had been completed, and the producers don't know how many new episodes ABC will want to air before the TV season ends in the spring. "We have to look at all the notes that were taken right before we left in terms of what we're going to do creatively for the remainder of the season and refresh our memory a little," Lindelof said. "I feel like we're sort of native French speakers who have been away from the country for three months and we're going back to France tomorrow and our diction is going to be a little sloppy." |
Originally Posted by lotsofdvds
I seriously doubt that could happen in that short amount of time. The entire cast and crew were essentially "fired" by NBC. There's no way they could get back up and running so quickly.
NBC's Saturday Night Live, which has been dark since Nov. 3, is expected to resume new shows on Feb. 23. |
Originally Posted by Decker
This is from the LA Times :
A settlement would also be welcomed by TV viewers, who are eager to see some of their favorite shows return to the air with fresh episodes and are hoping midseason shows such as "Lost" will have complete runs. But first the producers and writers have their work cut out for them. Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, the show runners of "Lost," will today begin the complicated task of figuring out what they should do with the second half of their season. When the strike began, eight episodes of the fourth season had been completed, and the producers don't know how many new episodes ABC will want to air before the TV season ends in the spring. "We have to look at all the notes that were taken right before we left in terms of what we're going to do creatively for the remainder of the season and refresh our memory a little," Lindelof said. "I feel like we're sort of native French speakers who have been away from the country for three months and we're going back to France tomorrow and our diction is going to be a little sloppy." |
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
I posted that when the strike happened, the best thing for LOST To do would be to just air the back 8 in the fall. There wouldn't be such a bridge between S4 and S5 that way. I think even more so now, because honestly, you know if rushed those back 8 are going to be wasted filler eps of made up stuff never revisited.
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Once again, Disney saves the day!
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...ck=2&cset=true
STRIKE REPORT Studio chiefs act as peacemakers News Corp.'s Chernin and Disney's Iger are integral in crafting a labor deal with writers. By Meg James Los Angeles Times Staff Writer February 11, 2008 Months of sporadic talks with the Writers Guild of America had been fruitless. Bargaining sessions last summer and fall with the writers had become bogged down by the sheer number of people involved: more than a dozen corporate labor-relations executives, lawyers and staff members of the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers. Then, in a plot twist not seen in decades, not since Hollywood was ruled by the iron-willed studio boss Lew Wasserman, two corporate chiefs took charge of the negotiations. Once News Corp. President Peter Chernin and Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger got involved, it took less than a month to finalize a contract with writers that is expected to end the devastating three-month strike that has cost the Los Angeles economy hundreds of millions of dollars. On Sunday, Writers Guild board members ratified a new three-year contract with the major studios. The WGA's 10,500 members will vote Tuesday on whether to end the strike and are expected to be back to work on Wednesday. "We spent six months in a room with people who did not want to negotiate with us," David Young, WGA executive director, told 3,500 striking writers who trudged into the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles on Saturday night to learn details of the tentative deal. "All of this that we have here today was negotiated over the last two or three weeks with two CEOs who were willing to negotiate." By early January, Chernin and Iger had been selected by their fellow chief executives to bring labor peace to Hollywood after perceived missteps by the alliance's professional negotiators and angry rhetoric coming from both sides. In some ways, the two executives were an odd couple. Three years ago, Chernin had been considered the favorite to eventually replace Michael Eisner as chief executive of Disney, the job that Iger coveted. But Chernin stayed at Fox, and Iger landed the Disney job. Although Chernin and Iger had slightly different priorities and substantially different styles, they shared a common goal: to end the writers strike that began Nov. 5. Chernin was a logical choice. Shrewd and savvy, Chernin could alternate between being disarming and charming but then, in an instant, switch gears to show his steely side. Chernin had worked in most of the areas of the business. He started in publicity at a book publishing house, went on to the Showtime cable channel and joined Fox in 1989. He ran Fox's broadcast and television production business. He was in charge of the Fox film studio for four years before becoming president and chief operating officer under media maverick Rupert Murdoch in 1996. Even in early November, he was predicting how the strike would unfold. WGA leaders, he told people around him, would have difficulty keeping their group united because the thousands of individual members would have different philosophies and financial circumstances. The companies would be able to exploit the natural divisions within the WGA by first coming to an agreement with another union, the Directors Guild of America. His prediction was spot on. By late last year, the strike threatened to cripple the industry for much of 2008. Some powerful show runners, who oversee TV's biggest programs, were threatening to go back to work. Other strident WGA members, who were insistent on extracting major concessions from the companies, were willing to picket until summer when their sister union, the Screen Actors Guild, could join their strike. The current SAG agreement expires June 30. For their part, top executives of the eight companies that make up the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers -- News Corp.'s Fox, Walt Disney Co., Warner Bros., CBS Corp., NBC Universal, Paramount Pictures, Sony Pictures Entertainment and MGM -- knew they had just one opening to get negotiations back on track. The chiefs realized that a quickly crafted deal with the friendlier DGA would set a new tone and establish a framework for agreements with the WGA and SAG. Instead of dispatching a phalanx of lawyers and labor relations specialists to do their bidding, as the companies had done with the writers, the chiefs had to do it themselves. But Chernin, 56, was unwilling to be the lone front-man for the companies, said one executive close to the negotiations. Iger also was integral to the group's success. The stoic executive, 57, runs Southern California's largest entertainment company and was intensely interested and familiar with the value of new media and Internet issues that were paramount to the writers. Like Chernin, Iger had risen through the ranks of the media world. Iger, who had joined ABC television as a studio supervisor in 1974, had moved through sports, entertainment and eventually to the corporate suites. He was president of ABC when Disney acquired the company in 1996. He had negotiated many labor agreements in his role as head of the ABC television network. Iger also had a decades-long friendship with Gil Cates, chairman of the DGA negotiating committee, who serves as director of Hollywood's biggest gala, the annual Academy Awards, which has been televised by ABC since 1976. In addition, Iger was viewed by some writers as perhaps more conciliatory than Chernin. The strike had stalled Disney's lucrative TV production unit, and ABC's ratings were slipping because its blockbuster dramas, such as "Grey's Anatomy" and "Desperate Housewives," don't perform well in repeats. Disney was eager to end the strike to salvage the television season and secure the Feb. 24 Oscar telecast, which provides the company tens of millions of dollars in profit. Meanwhile, Fox's business units were humming along, and the strike was having little effect on its network. Fox TV had two weapons in its arsenal, "American Idol" and the Super Bowl, which this month brought the company $250 million in ad revenue. Chernin was the hawk. Iger was the dove. Together they negotiated a deal with WGA executive director Young, WGA President Patric Verrone and John Bowman, the head of the WGA's negotiating committee. "The absolute most important turning point was when Peter Chernin and Bob Iger took the negotiations on for themselves," said Carlton Cuse, a member of the WGA negotiating committee and an executive producer of ABC's hit drama "Lost." "That was the key to the whole process. They were reasonable and they bargained fairly." In January, Chernin told investors that although Fox could weather the strike for months, it was important to get the town back to work. "Putting aside the writers, I think [the strike] is having a tremendously negative effect on a lot of very innocent people," Chernin said at an investors conference in Arizona. "Not only people in the entertainment industry, the below the line workers, the craft workers, but frankly people who run the local dry cleaners and the local florist shops," he said. "There is a significant and serious economic impact on the city of Los Angeles, and I feel a sense of responsibility to do anything I can to solve that." [email protected] Times staff writer Maria Elena Fernandez contributed to this report. Chris |
I heard that most of the showrunners should be back at work today since they have to re-hire all their crews and production staffs. Tomorrow is the vote and Wednesday all the writers should be back to work.
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TV Guide has an update on how many new episodes we can expect for alot of shows.
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...rite/800032698 24 Expected to return this fall or January '09. 30 Rock Expected to shoot 5 to 10 new episodes to air in April/May. Back to You Two pre-strike episodes remain. Future TBD*. Battlestar Galactica Returns April 4 with first half of 20-episode final season. Production on second half could start as early as March. Airdate for those TBD. The Big Bang Theory Expected to shoot 5 to 7 new episodes to air in April/May. Big Love Expected to go into production on Season 3 in March. Airdate info is TBD. Big Shots No new episodes expected. Ever. Bionic Woman No new episodes expected. Ever. Bones Four pre-strike episodes left. Unclear whether additional episodes will be produced for this season. Boston Legal Expected to shoot 4 or 7 new episodes to air in April/May. Brothers & Sisters One pre-strike episode remains. Expected to shoot 4 or 5 additional episodes to air in April/May. Burn Notice Production on Season 2 expected to get underway in late April. New episodes could start airing as early as July. Chuck No new episodes until fall. The Closer Expected to kick off its fourth season this summer. Cold Case Expected to shoot 4 to 7 new episodes to air in April/May. Criminal Minds Expected to shoot 4 to 7 new episodes to air in April/May. CSI Expected to shoot 4 to 7 new episodes to air in April/May. CSI: Miami Expected to shoot 4 to 7 new episodes to air in April/May. CSI: NY Expected to shoot 4 to 7 new episodes to air in April/May. Desperate Housewives Expected to shoot 4 to 7 new episodes to air in April/May. Dirty Sexy Money No new episodes planned until fall; three remaining pre-strike episodes will undergo some tweaking and kick off fall run. ER TBD. Everybody Hates Chris Twelve pre-strike episodes remain. No additional episodes expected for this season. Friday Night Lights No new episodes expected for this season. Future TBD. Ghost Whisperer TBD. Gossip Girl Expected to shoot up to 9 new episodes to air in April/May/June. Greek Kicks off second half of Season 1 on March 24. Still awaiting Season 2 pickup. Grey's Anatomy Expected to shoot 4 to 7 new episodes to air in April/May Heroes TBD. House Expected to shoot 4 to 6 new episodes to air in April/May. How I Met Your Mother Expected to shoot 5 to 7 new episodes to air in April/May. Jericho Seven episodes remain. No additional episodes expected for this season. Journeyman No new episodes expected. Ever. Las Vegas Two pre-strike episodes remain. No additional episodes expected for this season. Law & Order TBD. Law & Order: CI TBD. Law & Order: SVU Production resumes in early March. Remains unclear whether episodes produced will be for this season or next. Life No new episodes expected until fall. Life Is Wild No new episodes expected. Ever. Lost Six pre-strike episodes remain. Six additional episodes could air this season. Medium Six pre-strike episodes remain. No additional episodes expected this season. Men in Trees Eleven pre-strike episodes remain. No additional episodes expected this season. Moonlight No new episodes expected until fall. My Name Is Earl Expected to shoot 8 to 10 new episodes to air in April/May. NCIS Expected to shoot 5 to 7 new episodes, only three of which may air this season. The New Adventures of Old Christine Seven pre-strike episodes remain. No additional episodes expected this season. Nip/Tuck Season 5 concludes Feb. 19. Production on the show's eight-episode sixth season expected to start up this summer. Airdate TBD. Numbers Expected to shoot 5 to 7 new episodes, only three of which may air this season. October Road Five pre-strike episodes remain. Future beyond that TBD. The Office Expected to shoot 5 to 10 new episodes to air in April/May. One Tree Hill Six pre-strike episodes remain. Future beyond that TBD. Prison Break Two pre-strike episodes remain. Future beyond that TBD. Private Practice Slim chance it could return with 4 or 5 new episodes this season. Either way, it'll be back in the fall. Pushing Daisies No new episodes until fall. Reaper Three pre-strike episodes remain. Future beyond that TBD. Samantha Who? Three remaining pre-strike episodes remain. Expected to shoot an additional 4 to 8 episodes to air after the new season of Dancing with the Stars. Saturday Night Live Could be back on the air as early as Feb. 16. Scrubs Four pre-strike episodes remain. Four additional episodes will likely be shot; unclear whether they'll air on NBC or go straight to DVD. Smallville Four pre-strike episodes remain. Expected to shoot 3 to 5 additional episodes to air in April/May. Supernatural Two pre-strike episodes remain. Expected to shoot 3 to 5 additional episodes to air in April/May. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Five pre-strike episodes remain. Future beyond that TBD. Two and a Half Men Expected to shoot 5 to 7 new episodes to air in April/May. Ugly Betty Expected to shoot 4 to 7 new episodes to air in April/May. Without a Trace Expected to shoot 4 to 7 new episodes to air in April/May. Women's Murder Club Shocking development: A deal to bring the show back this season is being hammered out as I write this. Stay tuned... |
Last I heard about Heroes is that they're going to keep Volume 3 to come back in fall as season 3. This is from the show runners.
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Heroes is going to be pushed back to the fall. Tim Kring said in Entertainment Weekly that he can only produce 3 quality episodes in the small time allotted. Plus with a new volume starting up, it wouldn't make any sense to just air 3 episodes.
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Originally Posted by DJariya
Tim Kring said in Entertainment Weekly that he can only produce 3 quality episodes in the small time allotted.
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Originally Posted by DJariya
Saturday Night Live
Could be back on the air as early as Feb. 16. The website says "Next on..." but nothing else. http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/ Hopefully, they pick up where they left off and have Duane Johnson. |
HAHA FUCK the networks, I'm tired of their utter god damn cluelessness. No more tv cept on dvd years later.
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