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Old 01-04-08 | 08:55 AM
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I can't say anything about this report, but I mentioned in another thread on the strike in this forum that I heard on NPR the WGA is not happy that the DGA will begin negotiations some time soon even though they are months away from their deal expiring. It seems the DGA is much more eager to avoid a strike, may make a deal quickly, and will probably put a lot of pressure on both SAG and the WGA to take deals modeled after the DGA deal if they do settle quickly.
The WGA is pissed about that? That's how negotiations ARE SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!

Every day that goes by, I side with the WGA less and less. They are lucky I haven't watched any of those "sympathy" videos they have been posting or I may not side with them at all. The first few I saw were fucking nonsense.
Old 01-04-08 | 09:03 AM
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The WGA is pissed about that? That's how negotiations ARE SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!

Every day that goes by, I side with the WGA less and less. They are lucky I haven't watched any of those "sympathy" videos they have been posting or I may not side with them at all. The first few I saw were fucking nonsense.
The first 3 videos I saw were terrible and one was racist. I'm with you there.

I think the WGA is pissed because the DGA isn't being like SAG. SAG seems willing and possibly even eager to join WGA on strike as soon as their deal is up. DGA seems to be more solution-oriented. I'm still not taking sides, but I do have to say it makes me wonder if a more radical element within the WGA isn't in charge and if we're not heading for some serious trouble within their ranks when a segment of the writers who just want to get back to work conclude that they're not so happy with the way their union is handling this.
Old 01-04-08 | 09:27 AM
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The first 3 videos I saw were terrible and one was racist. I'm with you there.

I think the WGA is pissed because the DGA isn't being like SAG. SAG seems willing and possibly even eager to join WGA on strike as soon as their deal is up. DGA seems to be more solution-oriented. I'm still not taking sides, but I do have to say it makes me wonder if a more radical element within the WGA isn't in charge and if we're not heading for some serious trouble within their ranks when a segment of the writers who just want to get back to work conclude that they're not so happy with the way their union is handling this.
I think that's probably happening now. If they lose support of their a-listers, it's over with. I also wonder how the smaller writers, the guys living paycheck to paycheck, are going to keep holding out. I think there is a large disparity in income in the WGA.
Old 01-04-08 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
I think there is a large disparity in income in the WGA.
Probably bigger than any other profession.
Old 01-04-08 | 12:42 PM
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Probably bigger than any other profession.
I imagine there's a pretty big disparity between Alex Rodriguez and a guy playing in the low minors.
Old 01-04-08 | 03:27 PM
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I imagine there's a pretty big disparity between Alex Rodriguez and a guy playing in the low minors.
They're not represented by the same union, though. I don't think you can even join the players association until you reach the 40 man roster.
Old 01-04-08 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WallyOPD
I imagine there's a pretty big disparity between Alex Rodriguez and a guy playing in the low minors.
That's like comparing Brad Pitt with some guy that does community theater.
Old 01-04-08 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kvrdave
That's like comparing Brad Pitt with some guy that does community theater.
Or David Mamet to one of the zillions of 8th graders assigned to write a short story.
Old 01-04-08 | 06:53 PM
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http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...ory?id=4088924

SAG: Actors Won't Cross Lines at Globes

SAG: Nominated Actors Will Likely Not Cross Striking Writers' Picket Lines at Golden Globes

By LYNN ELBER
The Associated Press
LOS ANGELES


Golden Globe-nominated actors are expected to snub the awards in support of striking Hollywood writers, the actors union said Friday.

After canvassing nominees over the past several weeks, Screen Actors Guild President Alan Rosenberg said in a statement, "there appears to be unanimous agreement that these actors will not cross" the picket lines to present or accept an award.

It was unclear how the move might affect the awards set for broadcast on NBC on Jan. 13.

Michael Russell, a spokesman for the Hollywood Foreign Press Association, which stages the Golden Globes, did not immediately return telephone or e-mail requests for comment about the move by actors.

The Writers Guild of America had refused to grant a waiver to allow its members to work on the Globes, the People's Choice Awards and the prestigious Academy Awards.

A total of 72 actors are among this year's Golden Globe nominees. The Hollywood Foreign Press Association has repeatedly tried to seek the blessing of the writers guild.

The actors' union said previously that the choice to attend or not was a personal one that its members would make for themselves.

In his statement Friday, Rosenberg referred to "considerable outreach" by the actors guild to nominees and their representatives in recent weeks.

The writers strike, which began Nov. 5, has broad implications for the way Hollywood does business, since whatever deal is struck by writers on payment for shows offered on the Internet could affect talks with actors and directors, whose contracts expire next June.

Rosenberg also weighed in on the late-night talks shows, which are back on the air. Some are working without writers after failing to strike deals with the writers guild.

Rosenberg stopped short of pressing actors to skip the picketed shows, like Jay Leno's "Tonight."

"We urge our members to appear on the two programs that have independent agreements with the WGA, `The Late Show with David Letterman' and `Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson,'" he said.

Actors who appear on other shows have to cross picket lines, he said.

That creates "the same situation that has led to the consensus among actors to skip the Golden Globes," Rosenberg said.



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I never have watched the Golden Globes, but this seems to mean the cancellation of the show this year.

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Old 01-04-08 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy James
They're not represented by the same union, though. I don't think you can even join the players association until you reach the 40 man roster.
I was going off the "profession" part, and both are paid to play baseball professionally. The lowest paid player in the majors still makes about 1.5% of what the top paid player does.
Old 01-04-08 | 11:08 PM
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I don't typically follow the Golden Globes, however, if this strike continues, I'm concerned about the impact to the Oscars telecast.
Old 01-04-08 | 11:55 PM
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SAG announced that not a single nominated actor will attend the Golden Globes. I would expect an announcement that the show will be cancelled.

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...30282#comments
Old 01-05-08 | 07:15 PM
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Interesting new development.

United Artists is close to an interim agreement with the WGA

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...la-home-center


Tom Cruise's independent film company could sign a contract Sunday and get back to work. Other companies may follow.
By Claudia Eller and Richard Verrier, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
4:05 PM PST, January 5, 2008
United Artists, the independent production unit of MGM headed by actor Tom Cruise and his longtime production partner, Paula Wagner, is expected to become the first movie company to cut an interim deal with the Writers Guild of America, enabling the recent start-up to hire union writers despite the continuing strike.

The guild, which has reached a deal with UA that is expected to be signed Sunday, is also in discussions with several other independent companies, including Lionsgate and the Weinstein Co. about similar interim agreements.

The agreement with UA would benefit the company's distributor and majority shareholder Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc. in that it would supply the studio with ready-made releases once they are produced.

MGM, which unlike UA is a member company of the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers, does not plan to break ranks with the Alliance's other major studios and sign a similar side deal with the guild, according to people close to the situation who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to talk publicly.

The strike, now in its second month, is largely over how much writers will get paid when their work is distributed over the Internet. UA is a relatively small player in Hollywood, and a deal with the company is not expected to have an immediate effect on the larger dispute.

In recent days, Harry Sloan, MGM's chief executive, has attempted to dissuade Wagner and Cruise from making an interim deal with the guild, those sources said. Wagner and Sloan are said to have had a long discussion about the matter on Friday. Sloan ultimately must defer to Wagner, who as chief executive of UA has the final word on how the company operates. They could not immediately be reached for comment.

Some people close to the matter cautioned that the deal between UA and the guild could still fall apart.

Wagner and Cruise, who have been production partners for more than 15 years, jointly own 35% of UA, with MGM and its equity partners controlling the majority shares.

Sloan had recruited Cruise and Wagner to resurrect UA as an independently run, artist-friendly production company that could help fill MGM's annual distribution pipeline. UA's debut film, "Lions for Lambs," a political drama directed by and starring Robert Redford, Cruise and Meryl Streep, bombed at the U.S. box office last year. The company's planned production, "Pinkville," to be directed by Oliver Stone, was derailed by the writers strike in the late fall because it was in need of a script rewrite.

The pending agreement with UA marks the second deal the guild has struck with an independent production company, following a recent agreement with Worldwide Pants Inc., the production company owned by talk show host David Letterman.

Securing such deals is part of a strategy by the guild to demonstrate that it can successfully reach an agreement containing the demands it was seeking with the major studios, including Internet residuals. The alliance broke off negotiations with the writers in December, portraying them as intransigent.
The deal is expected to be signed Sunday.

Hopefully more studios will join in.

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Old 01-05-08 | 07:39 PM
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I don't typically follow the Golden Globes, however, if this strike continues, I'm concerned about the impact to the Oscars telecast.
I would be all for a quick 30 minute Oscar telecast. Let me get on with my Sunday.
Old 01-06-08 | 04:31 PM
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I would be all for a cancellation of the meaningless circle-jerk, personally.
Old 01-06-08 | 04:35 PM
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I would be all for a cancellation of the meaningless circle-jerk, personally.
If they delay awards shows because they can't televise them, that certainly shows us what is truly important about the spectacles, doesn't it?
Old 01-06-08 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DJariya
Interesting new development.

United Artists is close to an interim agreement with the WGA

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...la-home-center



The deal is expected to be signed Sunday.

Hopefully more studios will join in.
As the dominoes begin to fall, we may be witnessing the fall of a cartel.
Old 01-06-08 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy James
If they delay awards shows because they can't televise them, that certainly shows us what is truly important about the spectacles, doesn't it?
Exactly.
Old 01-06-08 | 06:45 PM
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As the dominoes begin to fall, we may be witnessing the fall of a cartel.
UA isn't a part of AMPTP as I understand it. This side deal strategy may be best for the WGA (time will tell), but the big blow will come if an AMPTP member signs this type of side deal, breaking ranks with the rest.
Old 01-07-08 | 04:19 PM
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Looks like the award show portion of the Golden Globes are canceled according to DeadlineHollywood. They are replacing it with a series of entertainment newscasts:

-- At 9 PM there will be a press conference covered by NBC News announcing the Golden Globe winners. (9pm-10pm)
-- At 8 PM, we are negotiating with Dick Clark Enterprises for a one-hour retrospective/clip show.
-- At 7 PM, we will air a Dateline with clips and interviews with nominees. (Currently scheduled to air for two hours on Saturday night.)
-- At 10 PM, we will broadcast an "Access Hollywood" style, Golden Globes party show...visiting the various parties in Hollywood
Old 01-07-08 | 04:23 PM
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UA completed their deal with the WGA today. Considering UA is just getting back into the movie business and they have no TV projects, this is really insignificant.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...4d76c2c7612c61
Old 01-07-08 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DJariya
UA completed their deal with the WGA today. Considering UA is just getting back into the movie business and they have no TV projects, this is really insignificant.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...4d76c2c7612c61
I actually think it's fairly significant in that it's showing the way forward to ending this strike.
Old 01-07-08 | 10:16 PM
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Dateline Hollywood is reporting that Weinstein may be next to strike a deal with the WGA.
Old 01-08-08 | 12:14 AM
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I would love to see the WGA slowly topple the big studios. If you can't bargain with them collectively, then I think it's just smart business to sign deals with people who are actually willing to negotiate.
Old 01-08-08 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by wewantflair
As the dominoes begin to fall, we may be witnessing the fall of a cartel.

UA is a minor studio and not even a member of the AMPTP. Its parent, MGM, said UA was misguided.

This does nothing.


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