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Old 12-12-07 | 11:57 AM
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Didn't NBC do this a year or so ago as a filler series for a few weeks? it was a different sitcome each week.
I think it was called " The Rerun Show " or something like that and that is something they could do again.

During the previous strike, Mission Impossible was revived with remakes of the original series and later with new episodes when the strike ended.
Old 12-16-07 | 12:42 PM
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Apparently there is a small update worth mentioning. Looks like the WGA wants to bypass negotiating with the AMPTP and broker individual deals with the studios and production companies. I wonder if this will work?


The WGA on Saturday announced that it would seek to broker deals with individual studios and production companies, seeing as its talks with the AMPTP haven't budged since Dec. 7. "As you know, the AMPTP is currently unwilling to bargain with us," the guild said in a letter to its members. "The internal dynamics of the AMPTP make it difficult for the conglomerates to reach consensus and negotiate with us on a give-and-take basis. We believe this multi-employer structure inhibits individual companies from pursuing their self-interest in negotiations."

The WGA's announcement was quickly welcomed by at least one shingle — David Letterman's. "Worldwide Pants has always been a writer-friendly company," Late Show executive producer Rob Burnett says in a statement to the AP. "Since the beginning of the strike, we have expressed our willingness to sign an interim agreement with the guild consistent with its positions in this dispute. We're happy that the guild has now adopted an approach that might make this possible."

The AMPTP promptly dismissed the tactic, saying in a statement, "This is merely the latest indication that the WGA organizers are grasping for straws and have never had a coherent strategy for engaging in serious negotiations. The AMPTP may have different companies with different assets in different businesses, but they are all unified in one common goal — to reach an agreement with writers that positions everyone in our industry for success in a rapidly changing marketplace."
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Old 12-17-07 | 12:11 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/1...riters.strike/

NBC: Leno, O'Brien returning to air

(CNN) -- The new year will see new shows from Jay Leno and Conan O'Brien, says NBC.


Jay Leno (left, with Gordon Ramsay) and Conan O'Brien will return to air January 2, says NBC.

"The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" and "Late Night with Conan O'Brien" will return with all-new episodes on January 2, according to a statement from NBC. The shows had been in reruns for two months because of the Writers Guild of America strike.

"During the 1988 writers strike, Johnny Carson reluctantly returned to 'The Tonight Show' without his writers after two months," said NBC's Executive Vice President for Late Night & Primetime Series, Rick Ludwin, in the statement. "Both Jay and Conan have supported their writers during the first two months of this WGA strike and will continue to support them. However, there are hundreds of people who will be able to return to work as a result of Jay's and Conan's decision."

Both shows will return without their writers, The Associated Press reported, leading to conjecture over what form the programs will take. In recent years, late-night talk shows have been as much about scripted comedy routines as talk, unlike the raconteur-driven versions of the form hosted by people such as Jack Paar.

In a statement, O'Brien acknowledged that "[a]n unwritten version of 'Late Night,' though not desirable, is possible -- and no one has to be fired. So, it is only after a great deal of thought that I have decided to go back on the air on January 2nd," he said.

"I will make clear, on the program, my support for the writers," he continued. "Of course, my show will not be as good. In fact, in moments it may very well be terrible. My sincerest hope is that all of my writers are back soon, working under a contract that provides them everything they deserve."
I am very happy about this.
Old 12-18-07 | 12:43 AM
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According to NPR Letterman also wants to work out a side deal to bring his writers back. Since he owns his show it's at least possible that will happen.

With Carson Daily and now Leno and Conan back plus with Letterman returning on the horizon I'm wondering what Jon Stewart will be done. 1/2 his show is completely dependent on scripted humour and, even if he found a way around it, I don't think his left leaning audience will be keen on crossing the picket line...but how long could he go being the only late night star not to return to the airwaves without hurting his career irrevocably?
Old 12-18-07 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy James
I'd like to see NBC or somebody run a throwback lineup night, but I imagine licensing would be prohibitive.

I'd also love to see somebody greenlight a word for word re-shoot of some classic TV show. Those would already be written, right?
Instead of dusting off old series I actually expected them to already license UK/Canadian/Aussie tv series and air them in America as filler till the strike is done. Plus it'd be a good trial balloon to see if there's any gems in other (english language) countries that could fly in the US.
Old 12-18-07 | 12:51 AM
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What I don't understand is, if the writers start negotiating these side deals with individual studios/shows, doesn't that sort of negate the whole idea of unionizing in the first place?
Old 12-18-07 | 01:11 AM
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I think the side deals are a symbolic part of the PR war. If the public see that the writers are willing to let Letterman have writers and agree to a deal with Worldwide Pants, maybe they think the problem isn't the writers but the other studios.
Old 12-18-07 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy James
I think the side deals are a symbolic part of the PR war. If the public see that the writers are willing to let Letterman have writers and agree to a deal with Worldwide Pants, maybe they think the problem isn't the writers but the other studios.
It could also put the writers into the drivers seat with various studios/networks bidding so they'll be the first (or worse yet the last) to get new content on the air. Plus since Letterman will be very writer friendly they should get a pretty sweet deal that they'll be able to use as a precedent against the other network/studios
Old 12-18-07 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jadzia
What I don't understand is, if the writers start negotiating these side deals with individual studios/shows, doesn't that sort of negate the whole idea of unionizing in the first place?
The whole idea of negotiating with "the industry" as one giant company seems to go against how must unions deal with corporations. The UAW picks one auto company to negotiate with first and then uses that agreement to workout a template with the others. Although this situation is different with only some writers going back to work I'm thinking this could be a more effective game plan.
Old 12-18-07 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Jadzia
What I don't understand is, if the writers start negotiating these side deals with individual studios/shows, doesn't that sort of negate the whole idea of unionizing in the first place?
How so? They are still bargaining as a unit.
Old 12-18-07 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Jadzia
What I don't understand is, if the writers start negotiating these side deals with individual studios/shows, doesn't that sort of negate the whole idea of unionizing in the first place?
No, it erodes the other side's solidarity (the ATPTP or whatever the acronym is for the producers association). The WGA, as a union, couldn't be happier doing this -- divide and conquer.
Old 12-18-07 | 04:21 PM
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It could also put the writers into the drivers seat with various studios/networks bidding so they'll be the first (or worse yet the last) to get new content on the air. Plus since Letterman will be very writer friendly they should get a pretty sweet deal that they'll be able to use as a precedent against the other network/studios
I wouldn't be surprised that Worldwide Pants announces its agreement with WGA East by the end of this week. The reasons are simple: 1) David Letterman is more than willing to do above the pay scale per WGA request and 2) Letterman is a WGA member himself and wants to do this as a precedent. Once the agreement is in place, The Late Show with David Letteman and The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson will do new shows with its normal complement of writers; this could make it possible for these two programs to literally have the field almost to itself in terms of getting A-list celebrity guests. The result is 1) Letterman gets a big publicity boost, 2) the WGA gets a major victory and 3) it improves CBS' bottom line.
Old 12-18-07 | 04:34 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised that Worldwide Pants announces its agreement with WGA East by the end of this week. The reasons are simple: 1) David Letterman is more than willing to do above the pay scale per WGA request and 2) Letterman is a WGA member himself and wants to do this as a precedent. Once the agreement is in place, The Late Show with David Letteman and The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson will do new shows with its normal complement of writers; this could make it possible for these two programs to literally have the field almost to itself in terms of getting A-list celebrity guests. The result is 1) Letterman gets a big publicity boost, 2) the WGA gets a major victory and 3) it improves CBS' bottom line.
We agree 100%.

I'm just wondering if CBS should take this an extra step further and broadcast Letterman 5 nights a week in prime time with the Late, Late Show in the 11:35 slot. It's certainly help shore up the lack of new content in prime time esp if the strike looks like it'll be dragging on for months.
Old 12-18-07 | 08:45 PM
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I think the best way to highlight the role of the writer would be to have Letterman and Ferguson with writers against Leno and O'Brien without writers. If the WGA is playing for the hearts and minds of the more observant consumers, this would be the perfect step to take.
Old 12-18-07 | 09:29 PM
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How so? They are still bargaining as a unit.
I just thought the point of the union striking was solidarity - that is they all stopped working it would essentially bring the entertainment industry to a standstill.

It just seems like if you have a subsegment of writers go back to work it lessens the impact of the strike overall.
Old 12-18-07 | 10:11 PM
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The Broadway stage hands had separate agreements for a few productions, and they managed to get their strike wrapped up faster than the WGA has. I think the solidarity point is a good one, but it's probably not quite good enough an argument to prevail over making separate deals with a small number of companies like Worldwide Pants.
Old 12-19-07 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Jadzia
I just thought the point of the union striking was solidarity - that is they all stopped working it would essentially bring the entertainment industry to a standstill.

It just seems like if you have a subsegment of writers go back to work it lessens the impact of the strike overall.
The point is to try and get the best deal you can. If one production company is willing to give you the terms that you want and you get them up and running again then that is likely to put more pressure on the remaining producers. If the entire entertainment industry has ground to a halt then at least you know everyone is in the same boat as you. If some shows/production companies are producing new content and getting new viewers and getting the lion's share of the advertising dollars then there will be even more incentive for the remaining producers to cave in to the WGA's demands.
Old 12-19-07 | 11:44 AM
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At this point, I've become fed up with whatever crap is left on tv. It makes me so sad to watch reality tv shows with fake people, all while looking so longingly at my dvd sets for The Office.

I hope that the WGA strike reaches some sort of agreement sometime soon. Else I might as well throw away my tv.
Old 12-19-07 | 12:10 PM
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Why watch reality programs at all?????
Don't support them. Turn you TV off.
Old 12-19-07 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jadzia

It just seems like if you have a subsegment of writers go back to work it lessens the impact of the strike overall.
I think the opposite is true. Let say that NBC and Fox resolve the WGA contract. They are airing new material, getting greater ad revenue, increased viewership, etc. That puts ABC and CBS on the spot to get something done so they don't fall behind.

Of course this is over simplistic, but the point is you don't want to be the guy holding the ball.
Old 12-19-07 | 12:15 PM
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As much as I admire Letterman's side deal idea, isn't it a bit easier for him to negotiate to their demands than it is for other shows? Simply because there's just not as much of a secondary market (DVDs, downloads) for episodes of a talk show as there is for something like The Office or Lost, so Worldwide Pants *theoretically* has less to 'give up' in the long run under that deal than a producer of a scripted show would under similar terms.
Old 12-19-07 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
I think the opposite is true. Let say that NBC and Fox resolve the WGA contract. They are airing new material, getting greater ad revenue, increased viewership, etc. That puts ABC and CBS on the spot to get something done so they don't fall behind.

Of course this is over simplistic, but the point is you don't want to be the guy holding the ball.
Yep. Iirc that's how the UAW does it (though they put the horse before the cart by doing it from the start) when they pick one of the big three they think they'll get the best deal from and use that agreement as leverage with the other two companies.
Old 12-19-07 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DRG
As much as I admire Letterman's side deal idea, isn't it a bit easier for him to negotiate to their demands than it is for other shows? Simply because there's just not as much of a secondary market (DVDs, downloads) for episodes of a talk show as there is for something like The Office or Lost, so Worldwide Pants *theoretically* has less to 'give up' in the long run under that deal than a producer of a scripted show would under similar terms.
I *think* they've dropped the DVD demands and Letterman actually has a wackload of clips on Youtube etc that CBS has uploaded and he actually has a few web only shows on CBS.com I think (The Tony Mendez Show) so I could actually see the Letterman show being the ideal microcosm of the broader debate.
Old 12-19-07 | 03:08 PM
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I'm enjoying reality programming.

Run's House, Rob and Big coming back Soon

Rock of Love 2..also coming back.
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I'm enjoying reality programming.
A little bit of me dies inside whenever I hear someone say that.


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