I don't think Maya was intentionally willing the "death" tears on the prisoner next to Alejandro. It still looks like Maya's power just radiates like a pebble dropped in a pool of water, and she can't focus her powers in a specific direction yet.

This would make sense if DWTS's ratings increased over the past week, but in fact they dropped by 5%. I'm not clear how you can say DWTS is the reason that Heroes ratings dropped by 9% if its own ratings dropped too.

Obviously people are not making Hereos a priority for some reason. I don't think that DWTS is that reason; at least not by looking at the numbers.

I may have phrased it poorly. It looks like she wanted to infect those guards. Maybe she can't control how far it radiates, but the initial release seemed to be controlled by her. It looked malicious rather than accidental.

well yea.. she can control it, in the sense that it happens when she gets worked up (bruce banner anyone???)..
i dont think she can make it happen.. but she brought it on herself by showing them the wanted poster and making them upset her.

she definitly did it intentionally

I'm not going to go overboard like a lot of people and say the show has "jumped the shark" (overused phrase from hell), but it certainly isn't as good as last year. The Wonder Twins have got to go. Their powers are useless.....Look at me, I can kill people! Look at me, I can unkill people my sister just killed!

Yeah, kinda contradictory. Helping them commit crime pretty makes him a bad person in the present. If he is bad in the present, why would he care if he was bad in the past. If anything, opening the box may show that he wasn't bad in the past and might help the present Peter to become that person again.

Well Peter doesnt really know how bad he can possibly be in his "old" life. He has such strong powers that he could quite possibly be extremely evil and a killer, where here although they are bad people, he can hang around a female he likes and possibly protect her from harm.

The fact that she intentionally brought it on herself was the point I'm more interested in. Being a victim of your power, and actively trying to harm people with it make for two very different characters. I'm assuming they are now trying to push the latter.

Count me in as another who is ready to cash out.

I caught up on S1 on disc and enjoyed it. This season has been pretty uninteresting.

I'll just catch up on it next summer if the season turns to be good.

I am starting to think that Bryan Fuller had more to do with the execution of the stories last year since he is gone this year doing Pushing Daisies.
It just seems so drab now.

Fuller had nothing to do with the last 3 episodes of the first season. I learned that only after making my last argument that the issue isn't all about the loss of Fuller. Now that I know he was gone for so long making the Pushing Daisies pilot, I'm all but certain he has very little to do with any perceived issues. The show would be better and funnier if he were involved, but it wasn't his show last year. He was one of many writers.

Thanks for clearing that up. I know that they had mentioned in the Enterainment weekly article that his absence could hurt the show but did not know in what way since I didn't rally know what his envolvement was exactly.

Fuller was more than just "one of many writers". He was also a co-executive producer of the show meaning that he added a lot more to it than just the two episodes he actually wrote. And the fact that he was not around for the very end of the first season might explain why some people were so dissapointed in the finale. For the record though, I was not too bothered by the way the first season ended. But Season 2 is a different story...and I won't bother repeating my negative feelings towards it again.

Fuller was clearly a senior writer on the staff (hence the title), and it's clear that all the writers had more to do with the show than just writing the scripts they got credit for. That's not really the issue, though. People are giving him the sort of credit that belongs to Tim Kring. It's Kring's show, and he's certainly the driving force behind the larger vision of the show. The show's sensibilities are at least fairly similar to his prior Crossing Jordan, up to and including the eclectic and ethnically diverse cast.

If your issue is that the Claire Bennett segments are not as good as they were last year, you can clearly pin that on the absence of Fuller -- that's what he worked on more than anything. If you don't think the show is as wonderfully quirky or funny as it was last year, pin that on the absence of Fuller because he probably did help with a lot of those sorts of polishes. If your issue is that you hate the wonder twins or what Peter is doing, your problem lies with Kring, not with a lack of Fuller.

I'll stress Fuller was away for not just the last episode but the last 3. I don't recall much complaint about the first two of those three episodes. In fact, I think everyone was very psyched up to see how it all ended.

Apologies in advance if this has already been covered, but did anyone read the interview with Sendhil Ramamurthy (Mohinder) on the Onion's AV Club?

He says this about this season's structure (there are no storyline details but I'll spoilerize it just in case):

I like that idea and hope that at some point the show gets back on track. But I definitely like the idea of 3 volumes this season. With long season breaks it makes it easier to follow.

I think that scene would have been much better had we not already been revealed that he could fly. They should have unfolded that more slowly to the audience, so that we did not find out about him before Claire did. That would have been an "oh shit" moment if he suddenly flew off with her like that.

As far as who Nichelle Nichols is, I read in TV Guide that she is

I thought the second half of this episode was pretty good. I liked the kid revealing to Claire about HRG (I thought he was going to mention the Haitian.) It ties in nicely to what HRG used to do and how we knew his character from last season. I am not sure why Claire is so weirded out though, didn't she know that is what her dad used to do when he worked for the company?

Man, I thought Gabrielle Anwar's Irish accent on Burn Notice sucked, but this chick is even worse.

So Hiro isn't leaving Japan just yet, presumably because of the girl, but did anybody else get the feeling that "Kensi" was feeding him BS and that as soon as Hiro left, he would turn back to his old ways. Something just wasn't genuine.

I agree... If they would have revealed his "flying" then, it would have really made that scene much better eventhough we pretty much knew there was something there.

I think the boy is trying to turn her against her dad... He just seems a bit shady to me and there seems to be some other method to his madness right now.

I'm wondering if Peter is going to find a "hero" in Ireland. They could be using this whole storyline for him to find the person.

The whole point of showing Nikki & Micah was to point out that D.L. is dead and that she is leaving Micah with Uhura. Otherwise when they showed Nikki, everyone would be asking where are Micah & D.L.

Don't just look at what has happened, try to piece together where the show is going based on the information that has been presented. Most people on here seemed confused about Sylar's powers being "gone" when it is obvious he has the Virus. The writers has Sylar kill the illusionist to show that he didn't "lose" his old powers, because he cannot use new ones either.

Can we have a real discussion about the show? Good or bad, let's discuss what is going on and where it is all going.


P.S. I think the Wonder Twins are an attempt to gain the Hispanic viewing audience. There may be more to it, but they could have used any ethnicity. Oh, and good job teaching illegals how to get into the US. Heroes will be shown as a training film in Central America after this season.

Claire knows what her dad used to do. I think her skepticism lies in the fact that she and her family are on the run and supposed to keep a low profile, yet her dad sticks her in a school with another person with powers who was already tagged and released. She has to believe at this point that HRG knew this kid attended the same school.

Good point. I hadn't thought about that. I wonder if the kid ever moved, though. Or maybe HRG had done this so many times in the past that he just forgot all the places? Wasn't his mind wiped at one point? I can't even remember now.

seriously!

all you have to do is:

1) hitch a ride in a truck.

2) use some make-believe tunnel to cross into Mexico

3) get arrested by breaking into a car in broad daylight

4) get busted out of jail by your sister who infects people with some kind of plague

5) hitch a ride with a white guy who happens to be in the same prison.

yep, it's like an instruction manual! Anyone can do it!

I didnt even think about that... Still thinking the kid is "bad", but this makes me think a little differently now.

HRG never told you about your real father. No, flying emo douche bag I am your father.