Friday Nght Lights "Last Days of Summer"-Season Premiere 10/5/07
10-06-07, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Septemberbaby
Is it me or was the 'yahoo preview' different? I seem to remember that Tyra was actually getting attacked when Landry hit him.. in tonight's episode he walked away. Is that still self-defense?
Absolutely not. The attacker was retreating at that point, thus a self-defense/defense of another person would not apply.
I certainly could have done w/o that storyline. The show is too good to turn into a cliched soap opera. Take this out and it was a good episode.
I also had a feeling they'd fiddle with the SO/JR/SR status of the players. I thought it was rather clear that Riggins was a SR last year.
10-06-07, 11:53 AM
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I'm glad I wasnt just imagining things in my mind. I also did a double take when he used a pipe instead of a bottle, and while the guy was walking away.
I am guessing they made the switch in part because the bottle seemed really unrealistic, but the fact that he was now walking away instead of still attacking may play a role in what happens to Landry down the road (though I guess dumping the body won't help his case either way, eh?). Another thing regarding the self defense vs. homicide- In addition to it being a lead pipe instead of a bottle, Landry also hit him twice as opposed to just once with the bottle. I am sure that aspect will end up being a moot point, but it hadn't been mentioned yet.
I am guessing they made the switch in part because the bottle seemed really unrealistic, but the fact that he was now walking away instead of still attacking may play a role in what happens to Landry down the road (though I guess dumping the body won't help his case either way, eh?). Another thing regarding the self defense vs. homicide- In addition to it being a lead pipe instead of a bottle, Landry also hit him twice as opposed to just once with the bottle. I am sure that aspect will end up being a moot point, but it hadn't been mentioned yet.
10-06-07, 01:03 PM
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Well they didn't actually show them dump the body, only hints of contemplating it. It's possible(and I'm hoping), that they were driving to the hospital with him still in the back, when they were in the car after the commercial.
10-06-07, 01:47 PM
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Did Tyra report her attack last season? I don't remember her ever doing so. Without a police report of that prior event, under the circumstances (attacker walking away, two strikes with the pipe), it will be even more difficult to argue self-defense.
I thought, for the most part, that this was a good return, but something did feel off to me for most of the episode. Maybe it's just the shift in relationships and positions, maybe it's the 9 months later, but something was very different.
And I didn't think about it until you mentioned it, Red Dog, but I also think Tim was supposed to graduate last year. I haven't rewatched any of the eps since they first were shown, so maybe we're wrong. But if they messed with that just to the character something to do, that would get a big
from me.
I thought, for the most part, that this was a good return, but something did feel off to me for most of the episode. Maybe it's just the shift in relationships and positions, maybe it's the 9 months later, but something was very different.
And I didn't think about it until you mentioned it, Red Dog, but I also think Tim was supposed to graduate last year. I haven't rewatched any of the eps since they first were shown, so maybe we're wrong. But if they messed with that just to the character something to do, that would get a big
from me.
10-06-07, 01:50 PM
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I don't think they flat out ever said he was a senior (probably for this very reason - to give them the option to bring him back), but I think it was strongly implied.
10-06-07, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
I don't think they flat out ever said he was a senior (probably for this very reason - to give them the option to bring him back), but I think it was strongly implied.
Also having a hard time with the murder plot. Really liked the show on DVD so I'm willing to see where it goes.
10-06-07, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by clckworang
Did Tyra report her attack last season? I don't remember her ever doing so. Without a police report of that prior event, under the circumstances (attacker walking away, two strikes with the pipe), it will be even more difficult to argue self-defense.
10-06-07, 04:16 PM
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I'm going through season 1 again right now, and there has been no mention of Riggins year (I'm only on episode 4), other than him being best friends with Street (who was a senior)... That doesn't mean they had to be in the same grade though.
10-06-07, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Boot
I'm surprised at the kudos of this premier. I loved last season. It was one of those rare shows that transcended its genre and became something approaching if not outright reaching brilliance, so I was really pumped for this season to start. By the end of the ep, my main thought was that they should have stopped at one season. I do not like the murder/cover-up angle one bit. One thing that made this show so special last season was that the characters were so believable. This was not believable to me. I do buy that Landry could have reacted that way to protect Tyra, but then to dump the body in a river? C'mon, that screams plot device, and this show, at least last season, is so much better than that.
10-06-07, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Gentz
just noticed that NBC is selling Riggins jerseys (I'd rather have a Saracen), and Crucifictorious t-shirts!
10-06-07, 05:55 PM
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Apparently it did fairly well in the ratings, tying with Moonlight for its second half hour! Good news! We may just get a full season if this keeps up!
As for the premiere, I loved some of the lines, but I sorta felt like some of the characters were missing as this ep seemed to have a lot of Landry/Tyra and Coach/Julie parts. And Lyla's prayer at the dinner table was hilarious.
Where the hell was Smash? He had about two lines and no story development.
-ringding-
As for the premiere, I loved some of the lines, but I sorta felt like some of the characters were missing as this ep seemed to have a lot of Landry/Tyra and Coach/Julie parts. And Lyla's prayer at the dinner table was hilarious.
Where the hell was Smash? He had about two lines and no story development.
-ringding-
10-06-07, 07:07 PM
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9:00-10:00
1. “Moonlight” (CBS) 8.25m
2. “Friday Night Lights” (Season Premiere) (NBC) 6.48m
Well second in its timeslot is definately good, hopefully it holds up.
1. “Moonlight” (CBS) 8.25m
2. “Friday Night Lights” (Season Premiere) (NBC) 6.48m
Well second in its timeslot is definately good, hopefully it holds up.
10-06-07, 07:31 PM
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i was a big fan of the show last season..
and Im hoping it picks up going forward
but watching the one last night.. i felt like i was watching friday night 90210 or something.. seemed more like a soap opera than normal.. maybe riggins shot JR.
and Im hoping it picks up going forward
but watching the one last night.. i felt like i was watching friday night 90210 or something.. seemed more like a soap opera than normal.. maybe riggins shot JR.
10-06-07, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
I don't think they flat out ever said he was a senior (probably for this very reason - to give them the option to bring him back), but I think it was strongly implied.
Maybe he is having to repeat his senior year.
10-07-07, 12:26 AM
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Really enjoyed the ep., but I'm a little worried about the Landry/dead rapist storyline, Julie being entirely unlikable (and the new super lame love interest), and an MIA Smash. Much of what I liked about last season has been turned on its head, so really curious as to how the season will progress.
10-07-07, 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian Gentz
Yes she did because Mrs. Coach made her after Landry told her. She went to the police station gave a report and got photographed. That with the attacker grabbing her violently and saying he would be back for her, seems like it would cover self defense... but I have no real sense of how it works though. Dumping the body would not help at all though.
10-07-07, 02:38 AM
#49
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Originally Posted by TimeandTide
Really enjoyed the ep., but I'm a little worried about the Landry/dead rapist storyline, Julie being entirely unlikable (and the new super lame love interest), and an MIA Smash. Much of what I liked about last season has been turned on its head, so really curious as to how the season will progress.
10-07-07, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mwbmis
At least it wasn't like last year's ridiculous (and completely unrealistic) foursome of Smash, Saracen, Street, and Riggins hanging out all night at the football field.
