Then what night do you put it on? Switch Bionic Woman and Journeyman around and I doubt it'd get any better ratings. Sundays are out because of football, Tuesday is out because I doubt NBC would want to relocate Law & Order: SVU at 10 and it'd get killed against House at 9 and it'd have to compete against Dancing with the Stars at 8; Wednesday at 10 might be doable if Life doesn't work out but I think even that gets better ratings so why risk it; Thursday doesn't work even though ER is in its last season and Friday isn't a possibility unless they decide to can Friday Night Lights or Las Vegas.

I think Journeyman is done as NBC I think will try and salvage Bionic Woman... They might as well do reruns of another show instead at that timeslot with those kind of ratings.

It's sad because Journeyman has so much more going for it than The Bionic Woman. I just don't see them progressing that far (storyline) with The Bionic Woman. Journeyman has so many possibilities, it's mind bottling.

Chris

Journeyman is not all that accessible of a show, especially in the 10 p.m. EDT timeslot. People want procedurals in that timeslot (it's why Cane also struggles on Tuesdays). People want self-contained episodes so that they aren't penalized for missing an episode here or there. Journeyman's snail's pace in revealing Dan's homelife situation (past and present) are not conducive to keeping the viewer's attention amongst the Nielsen households, and Dan's time-traveling "missions" aren't that interesting.

The only feasible timeslots they could move Journeyman to would be Wednesday at 8pm, currently occupied by Phenomenon or 9pm, which is Bionic Woman's timeslot.

It could move into Life's timeslot at 10pm, but Life is already having an uphill battle with CSI:NY and Dirty Sexy Money and is finishing 3rd in the timeslot every week.

I think Nielsen viewers just don't like watching serial dramas. Although Dan's journeys are pretty self contained.

Well, Journeyman is past my bedtime, but I watch it the next morning.

Chris

That's why I said I don't think it will help. I can't see a better time slot for it but I like the show so I just want them to try something to save it. :(

Like when things are crazy and it is like your mind is trapped in a bottle?

Exactly! :thumbsup:

Chris

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Chris

Well, I for one, am hoping that Journeyman can weather the storm this season. See how it does after football season is over. I actually have been looking forward to watching that more than Heroes this season. Bionic Woman lost me after the first episode.

It's amazing. Almost all of the network shows I watch are on NBC, and NBC is in the toilet right now: Heroes, Journeyman, My Name is Earl, 30 Rock, The Office. I also watch Lost. I meant to watch Pushing Daisies this year, but I missed the first couple episodes, and I am the type of person who has to watch all the episodes in order, so I'll see how it does and may pick it up on DVD.

Tuesday – 10/30
Top Shows by Viewers
1. “Dancing with the Stars” (ABC) 18.58m
2. “House” (FOX) 17.16m
3. “NCIS” (CBS) 16.32m
4. “Boston Legal” (ABC) 11.76m
5. “It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown” (R) (ABC) 11.44m
6. “The Unit” (CBS) 10.72m
7. “Bones” (FOX) 8.85m
8. “Law & Order: SVU” (R) (NBC) 8.66m
9. “Cane” (CBS) 8.06m
10. “The Biggest Loser 4” (8:30-10) (NBC) 6.29m
11. “The Singing Bee” (NBC) 5.83m
12. “Reaper” (CW) 2.52m
13. “Beauty and the Geek” (CW) 2.38m

8:00-9:00
1. “NCIS” (CBS) 16.32m
2. “It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown” (R) (ABC) 11.44m
3. “Bones” (FOX) 8.85m
4. “The Singing Bee” / “The Biggest Loser 4” (NBC) ?.??m
5. “Beauty and the Geek” (CW) 2.38m

9:00-10:00
1. “Dancing with the Stars” (ABC) 18.58m
2. “House” (FOX) 17.16m
3. “The Unit” (CBS) 10.72m
4. “The Biggest Loser 4” (NBC) ?.??m
5. “Reaper” (CW) 2.52m

10:00-11:00
1. “Boston Legal” (ABC) 11.76m
2. “Law & Order: SVU” (R) (NBC) 8.66m
3. “Cane” (CBS) 8.06m

Shows by 18-49 Demo
1. “House” (FOX) 7.0/17
2. “Dancing with the Stars” (ABC) 4.2/10
3. “It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown” (R) (ABC) 3.8/11
4. “NCIS” (CBS) 3.3/9
5. “Bones” (FOX) 3.2/9
6. “Boston Legal” (ABC) 3.1/8
7. “Law & Order: SVU” (R) (NBC) 3.0/8
8. “The Biggest Loser 4” (8:30-10) (NBC) 2.8/7
9. “The Unit” (CBS) 2.8/7
10. “Cane” (CBS) 2.0/5
11. “The Singing Bee” (NBC) 1.7/5
12. “Beauty and the Geek” (CW) 1.1/3
13. “Reaper” (CW) 1.1/3

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CHANGES FROM LAST WEEK (EXC. RERUNS)
Tuesday, 10/30/07
1. “8-9 HOUR” (ABC) +67.25%**
2. “The Biggest Loser” (NBC) +12.27%
3. “10-11 HOUR” (ABC) +7.69%*
4. “Dancing with the Stars” (ABC) +4.27%
5. “Cane” (CBS) +1.00%
6. “Bones” (FOX) +0.34%
7. “The Unit” (CBS) -1.29%
8. “Reaper” (CW) -1.95%
9. “House” (FOX) -3.97%
10. “NCIS” (CBS) -4.51%
11. “The Singing Bee” (NBC) -14.52%
12. “Beauty and the Geek” (CW) -25.63%

* - Last week: 20/20 Special; This week: Boston Legal
** - Last week: Cavemen/Carpoolers; This week: Charlie Brown Special

NCIS took a (not huge) decent sized hit; most likely because a few of its views probably watched the It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown Special that people have seen a million times.

That'll teach The CW not to schedule a recap episode of Beauty & the Geek.

Chris

Has the CW every done a recap episode of Beauty & the Geek before? I tried to watch it but I left after 10 min.

If they have, I don't remember them doing it with 5 weeks left before the finale. They are just getting greedy and trying to fill a week with useless recaps.

Chris

Wednesday – 10/31
Top Shows by Viewers
1. “Criminal Minds” (CBS) 14.69m
2. “CSI: NY” (CBS) 13.84m
3. “Private Practice” (ABC) 11.23m
4. “Pushing Daisies” (ABC) 8.58m
5. “Dirty Sexy Money” (ABC) 8.38m
6. “Kid Nation” (CBS) 6.89m
7. “Phenomenon” (8-10) (NBC) 5.95m
8. “Life” (NBC) 5.72m
9. “Back to You” (FOX) 5.17m
10. “Til Death” (FOX) 4.90m
11. “Kitchen Nightmares” (R) (FOX) 3.84m
12. “America’s Next Top Model” (Clips Show) (CW) 3.28m
13. “Gossip Girl” (R) (CW) 1.49m

8:00-9:00
1. “Pushing Daisies” (ABC) 8.58m
2. “Kid Nation” (CBS) 6.89m
3. “Phenomenon” (NBC) ?.??m
4. “Back to You” / “Til Death” (FOX) 5.04m
5. “America’s Next Top Model” (Clips Show) (CW) 3.28m

9:00-10:00
1. “Criminal Minds” (CBS) 14.69m
2. “Private Practice” (ABC) 11.23m
3. “Phenomenon” (NBC) ?.??m
4. “Kitchen Nightmares” (R) (FOX) 3.84m
5. “Gossip Girl” (R) (CW) 1.49m

10:00-11:00
1. “CSI: NY” (CBS) 13.84m
2. “Dirty Sexy Money” (ABC) 8.38m
3. “Life” (NBC) 5.72m

Shows by 18-49 Demo
1. “Private Practice” (ABC) 3.8/10
2. “CSI: NY” (CBS) 3.7/10
3. “Criminal Minds” (CBS) 3.5/10
4. “Dirty Sexy Money” (ABC) 2.9/8
5. “Pushing Daisies” (ABC) 2.6/8
6. “Kid Nation” (CBS) 2.0/7
7. “Life” (NBC) 2.0/6
8. “Phenomenon” (8-10) (NBC) 1.9/6
9. “Kitchen Nightmares” (R) (FOX) 1.9/5
10. “Back to You” (FOX) 1.7/6
11. “America’s Next Top Model” (Clips Show) (CW) 1.6/5
12. “Til Death” (FOX) 1.6/5
13. “Gossip Girl” (R) (CW) 0.6/2

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CHANGES FROM LAST WEEK (EXC. RERUNS)
Wednesday, 10/31/07
1. “CSI: NY” (CBS) +1.47%
2. “Criminal Minds” (CBS) -1.61%
3. “Dirty Sexy Money” (ABC) -2.10%
4. “Private Practice” (ABC) -4.59%
5. “Pushing Daisies” (ABC) -9.21%
6. “Kid Nation” (CBS) -14.20%
7. “Life” (NBC) -16.50%
8. “Phenomenon” (NBC) -28.74%*
9. “America’s Next Top Model” (CW) -30.51%

* - Last week: 1-hour series debut; This week: 2-hour edition

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Obviously Halloween had a pretty big impact on CBS with Kid Nation falling and thus also sending Criminal Minds (with Mantegna's debut) down a bit from last week as well. Perhaps CM should've went with a rerun last night...

Wow heroes at this rate is going to be in single digit millions.

I don't think it's going to get that bad (if it does, plenty of heads will roll at NBC), but I think it'll hover around 10m and then pick back up to 13m or so toward the season finale.

A few observations from the last few days... is it my imagination or is Big Bang Theory doing better than anyone thought? Are the huge losses on Wednesday due to Halloween? Damn Life is not doing well...

I’m glad that The Big Bang Theory is doing well and I think it deserves the ratings it gets. It’s not even close to the same level as any of the NBC comedies; but for a 4-camera, laugh track situational comedy; it’s probably the only decent one currently on Primetime TV. Oh, I’ll probably get a thousand but… How I met Your Mother responses, but I don’t think its good; doesn’t mean other people don’t, it’s just my opinion.

I’m very unhappy that Life took a huge -16.50% hit in the ratings on Wednesday’s. I think Damian Lewis as Crews is great and he is funny like Goldblum on Raines. Sarah Shahi isn’t horrible on the eyes; she’s a good actor as well.

It’ll be Raine’d pretty soon.

Thursday – 11/01
Top Shows by Viewers
1. “Grey’s Anatomy” (ABC) 18.76m
2. “CSI” (CBS) 18.75m
3. “Without a Trace” (CBS) 14.62m
4. “Survivor: China” (CBS) 14.32m
5. “Ugly Betty” (ABC) 9.90m
6. “ER” (NBC) 9.06m
7. “Big Shots” (ABC) 9.01m
8. “Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?” (8-10) (FOX) 8.50m
9. “The Office” (NBC) 8.40m
10. “My Name is Earl” (NBC) 7.29m
11. “Scrubs” (NBC) 6.68m
12. “Smallville” (CW) 4.31m
13. “Supernatural” (CW) 3.28m

8:00-9:00
1. “Survivor: China” (CBS) 14.32m
2. “Ugly Betty” (ABC) 9.90m
3. “Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?” (FOX) 8.43m
4. “My Name is Earl” (NBC) 7.29m
5. “Smallville” (CW) 4.31m

9:00-10:001. “Grey’s Anatomy” (ABC) 18.76m
2. “CSI” (CBS) 18.75m
3. “Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?” (FOX) 8.58m
4. “The Office” / “Scrubs” (NBC) 7.54m
5. “Supernatural” (CW) 3.28m

10:00-11:00
1. “Without a Trace” (CBS) 14.62m
2. “ER” (NBC) 9.06m
3. “Big Shots” (ABC) 9.01m

Shows by 18-49 Demo
1. “Grey’s Anatomy” (ABC) 7.9/18
2. “CSI” (CBS) 5.6/13
3. “Survivor: China” (CBS) 4.8/13
4. “The Office” (NBC) 4.5/11
5. “Without a Trace” (CBS) 4.0/11
6. “ER” (NBC) 3.9/11
7. “Big Shots” (ABC) 3.8/10
8. “Scrubs” (NBC) 3.7/9
9. “Ugly Betty” (ABC) 3.6/9
10. “My Name is Earl” (NBC) 3.1/9
11. “Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?” (8-10) (FOX) 2.5/7
12. “Smallville” (CW) 1.7/5
13. “Supernatural” (CW) 1.3/3

Note: “Grey’s Anatomy” went to 10:07 which propped up “Big Shots” numbers. It lost 4.40m viewers in the half hour.

It's funny how the ratings end up. Since the beginning of the season CSI has handily beaten Grey's Anatomy in total viewers, but for some reason last night it lost by about 100,000 people.

And the lead in Survivor had its highest viewership since the premiere, so that couldn't be the reason. I'm wondering if CSI being a repeat last week caused some viewers to lose interest in this weeks show?

Chris

Maybe, but a slight correction, it was a 10,000 difference between the two... So when final nationals come out (which I will post either late tonight or early tomorrow), it could go CSI's way. But the fact that it's so close probably was because of the rerun last week.

I was never good in math in school. 13 years doing payroll though! :lol:

Chris

I think next weeks CSI-Without a Trace crossover episode will definitely beat Grey’s Anatomy by over a million viewers. I could be wrong though.

I hate the ‘Trying to grab extra ratings by doing the ole’ crossover gimmick’ as much as the next person; but I can’t wait too see Petersen and LaPaglia together.