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Struz 05-11-07 08:02 AM

I hope Earl and Yau get rid of Cassandra next week. She stabbed them both in the back by voting for Yau. Why would they vote for Yau when they know he has the idol ? If anything they should have voted for Earl.

Dr. Henry Jones, Jr. 05-11-07 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Struz
I hope Earl and Yau get rid of Cassandra next week. She stabbed them both in the back by voting for Yau. Why would they vote for Yau when they know he has the idol ? If anything they should have voted for Earl.

Because if they voted Earl out, Yao would use his idol at the next tribal (the last time he could use it), then at the 4, Yao would have a 2/4 chance of immunity assuming Dreamz stays to his word.

Struz 05-11-07 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Lunatikk
Because if they voted Earl out, Yao would use his idol at the next tribal (the last time he could use it), then at the 4, Yao would have a 2/4 chance of immunity assuming Dreamz stays to his word.

But at least they would have broken up Earl and Yau. Earl never would have expected they would vote him out. Now, they lost Stacy and Cassandra has been exposed for turning on Earl and Yau. Earl and Yau should get Boo on their side and get rid of Dreamz then Cassandra.

cdollaz 05-11-07 08:55 AM

If Boo, Dreamz, and Cassandra are smart, they will team up and take it to the final 3. At that point Boo will have to win immunity, but he would probably be the favorite to do so.

Struz 05-11-07 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by cdollaz
If Boo, Dreamz, and Cassandra are smart, they will team up and take it to the final 3. At that point Boo will have to win immunity, but he would probably be the favorite to do so.

Boo has a better chance winning immunity against Earl and Yau then Dreamz and Cassandra.

Red Dog 05-11-07 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by cdollaz
If Boo, Dreamz, and Cassandra are smart, they will team up and take it to the final 3. At that point Boo will have to win immunity, but he would probably be the favorite to do so.


That's what they should do (as I alluded to before), but I've seen some pretty stupid moves at this stage before. Also, it will likely be a 3-way final, so no worries for Boo at that stage.

Red Dog 05-11-07 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Struz
I hope Earl and Yau get rid of Cassandra next week. She stabbed them both in the back by voting for Yau. Why would they vote for Yau when they know he has the idol ? If anything they should have voted for Earl.


Because Cassandra can't beat Yau in a final-3. Neither can Dreamz. Plus they wagered that Yau wouldn't play the Idol until next vote, and they probably would have been correct had Stacy not had such a big mouth at Council.



Originally Posted by Struz
Earl and Yau should get Boo on their side and get rid of Dreamz then Cassandra.


Why would Boo want to do that? He would have a far better chance of winning the final vote vs. Dreamz/Cassandra than vs. Earl/Yau.

SpaceBoy 05-11-07 09:47 AM

Once again I feel as though Jeff dictated the outcome by his probing of the survivors. I really don't think the Idol would have been used had it not been for Stacy and/or Dream's answers to the questions, Jeff asked.

It's their fault for talking, but I don't see why it's necessary to have Jeff ask questions that could possibly effect the outcome of the game. I mean it's one thing if he just asks things being talked about in camp, but asking questions maybe one of the contestants wasn't smart enough to ask or think about on their own seems silly.

I am pulling for Dreamz or Boo for some reason I would be really mad if Yau won the whole thing. Boo or Dreamz I feel could use it the most based upon their listed occupation, and in a game where there is no one compelling character I would like to see it go to the most in need.

I'm not sure I would give Yau the immunity if I won in the final 4 of Dreamz. You risk getting no votes in the end because you so blatantly lied, but I think I would risk it, just to have a shot at the money. I would just say Yau I've decided to change my mind you can have the car back, now pack your bags.

cdollaz 05-11-07 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
Also, it will likely be a 3-way final, so no worries for Boo at that stage.

Yep, I forgot about that. I'm not really sold on Yau being a sure thing if he is in the final. He has been very smug, even arrogant, at the last few tribal councils. He has been very good at reading others and making the right play so far, though.

aktick 05-11-07 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by SpaceBoy
Boo or Dreamz I feel could use it the most based upon their listed occupation, and in a game where there is no one compelling character I would like to see it go to the most in need.

That's a bullshit reason for wanting somebody to win money, always has been always will be. So you want to punish those who have worked their asses off and made something of themselves by giving a million $ to some poor schlep? That's called welfare...we know how well it works. :rolleyes:

OK, off my soapbox. :p

Like I said before, it'd be wise for the other 3 to go against Earl/Yao, but the problem with this next vote is they'd have to guess at who has the other HII. Pretty risky play (like this week), especially when you're that close the final 3. So after saying that, maybe it'd be wise for one of the 3 to play along with the 3, but secretly tell Earl/Yao that they'll vote with them, to get to the final 3.

Silt 05-11-07 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by SpaceBoy
Once again I feel as though Jeff dictated the outcome by his probing of the survivors. I really don't think the Idol would have been used had it not been for Stacy and/or Dream's answers to the questions, Jeff asked.

Jeff is part of the game and always has been. Just because he asks a question, doesn't mean the player has to answer it honestly, or answer it at all. Last night, Stacey could have easily answered "I think the results of tonights vote will have me going home, as I came to the alliance late....". Instead she was stupid and basically confirmed Yau Man's suspicion that something was up. While never shown on t.v., former players have reported there have been some pretty big blow-ups at tribal council between Jeff and the players because they refused to answer his questions or were just not talking at all.

Remember, a huge part of Survivor is lying....answering Jeff's questions with what other's want/need to hear is part of the game. A perfect example was Alex a few weeks ago. He used a question from Jeff to his advantage and got Michelle out. Based off the editing, if Stacey had a brain, she probably could have done the same to Yau Man last night....though given we see a very edited down tribal council he may have used the idol anyway.

cdollaz 05-11-07 10:45 AM

Yeah, his question last night was broad. She stupidly ran with it.

MrE 05-11-07 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by PacMan2006
Can someone give me a recap of what Stacy did or said at Tribal council? I had a little bit too itchy of a trigger finger on the fast forward, lol.

Thanks.

To paraphrase, when asked if she thought she was going home, Stacy said she thought there would be a split vote. That signalled trouble to Yau-daMan whose Spidey sense was already tingling.

Dreamz is turning out to be this year's sleeper -- there's a lot more going on than appearances indicate.

maingon 05-11-07 11:53 AM

Dreamz is one crazy guy, hes gonna make it far but you cant trust that guy at all. Thats why hes gonna make it to the top 3 he gets peoples trust and turns o them.

Jim 05-11-07 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Silt
While never shown on t.v., former players have reported there have been some pretty big blow-ups at tribal council between Jeff and the players because they refused to answer his questions or were just not talking at all.

It would be a pretty boring show if everyone kept their mouth shut like some here suggest. I would expect there is something in their contracts that they have to answer Jeff's questions, whether it be truthfully or not.

SpaceBoy 05-11-07 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Silt
Jeff is part of the game and always has been. Just because he asks a question, doesn't mean the player has to answer it honestly, or answer it at all. Last night, Stacey could have easily answered "I think the results of tonights vote will have me going home, as I came to the alliance late....". Instead she was stupid and basically confirmed Yau Man's suspicion that something was up. While never shown on t.v., former players have reported there have been some pretty big blow-ups at tribal council between Jeff and the players because they refused to answer his questions or were just not talking at all.

Remember, a huge part of Survivor is lying....answering Jeff's questions with what other's want/need to hear is part of the game. A perfect example was Alex a few weeks ago. He used a question from Jeff to his advantage and got Michelle out. Based off the editing, if Stacey had a brain, she probably could have done the same to Yau Man last night....though given we see a very edited down tribal council he may have used the idol anyway.

Oh I agree with you. It's totally the contestants fault for being to dumb to keep their mouth's shut, but I was just trying to protect those idiots by not having Jeff talk :)

devilshalo 05-11-07 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by MrE
Dreamz is turning out to be this year's sleeper -- there's a lot more going on than appearances indicate.

Still tho.. he is way too impulsive, meaning he takes action way before thinking things thru and that may be his downfall. Of course all of this can be avoided if they just keep immunity out of Boo's hand.

I sort of give Boo a big chance of winning if he's able to keep winning immunity. The guy has had a target on his back for the last 4-5 rounds(?) and has survived. Within the group, he hasn't ruffled feathers because he has no alliances.

aktick 05-11-07 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by devilshalo
I sort of give Boo a big chance of winning if he's able to keep winning immunity. The guy has had a target on his back for the last 4-5 rounds(?) and has survived. Within the group, he hasn't ruffled feathers because he has no alliances.

That's what's so funny about Boo...he has really NEVER been in an alliance this entire game. When they were with their original tribes, his never lost so it didn't matter. Then they split tribes up again, and his tribe again basically won all the time again. After the merge, anytime he's been on the chopping block, he's won immunity.

Seems to have made it a long ways for having no real allies the entire game...so I agree, if he makes it to the final 3, I think he'd deserve to win.

mrpayroll 05-11-07 12:43 PM

Boo has actually been the 'sleeper' this season. We really haven't noticed him until the last 2 episodes when he started winning individual immunity. And since he's had no alliance's, he hasn't ruffled any feathers. If he goes to the final 3, he just might win the whole thing.

Chris

TheGodfather 05-11-07 12:51 PM

The funny part about Stacey is I don't think she a clue as to exactly how insaneley stupid she was even after she was voted out. Idiot.

That was probably the single stupidest statement I've ever heard at a TC. Her 1st answer wasn't brilliant either, but the 2nd time she opened her mouth just put me in a state of shock. I was worried about her as soon as Dreamz approached her but she looked like she had the right idea when she pulled Earl aside and told him how she knew her time was up only to blow it at TC.

Cassandra really is getting super annoying now too. "Uuh huh... Oh okay... Oh okay...Uuh huh.."

atlantamoi 05-11-07 03:19 PM

I would laugh if Earl gives Yau the hidden idol during tribal council next week. The other tribe members have no idea Earl has it. I'm sure they'll be gunning for Yau again.

dstrauss 05-11-07 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by SpaceBoy
Once again I feel as though Jeff dictated the outcome by his probing of the survivors.

Well, remember that tribal councils usually last over an hour, they only show us a little bit. It's likely that Jeff usually asks all kinds of questions that are probing or leading and they only show them in the final broadcast if they end up being important.

nateman 05-12-07 06:37 AM


Cassandra really is getting super annoying now too. "Uuh huh... Oh okay... Oh okay...Uuh huh.."
I think thats all show knows how to say. i don't think she actually knows how to communicate with people.
It gets extremly annoying after awhile.
I'm glad Yau-Man used his Immunity Idol because he would have been 'Out' if he didn't and Earl would have gone next. I really hope either Yau-Man or Earl wins the $1 million on sunday because None of the other people left deserve it.

lucasorion 05-12-07 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Silt
A perfect example was Alex a few weeks ago. He used a question from Jeff to his advantage and got Michelle out.

I remember feeling that that was a case of Jeff "leading the witness" and basically telling Dreamz how he should vote. I got really annoyed with that one, especially since it was Michelle:drool:

Robertwoj 05-12-07 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by atlantamoi
I would laugh if Earl gives Yau the hidden idol during tribal council next week. The other tribe members have no idea Earl has it. I'm sure they'll be gunning for Yau again.

If Earl wins the next immunity challenge, he would most definitely give the HII to Yau-man to use. It would be a great play to even the votes to 2-2 at the final 4, giving Yau-man an edge with Dreamz' promise at the round of 4. Should be a good finale!


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