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Dash 05-13-07 02:17 AM

Glad to see that they are at least showing the rest of the eppisodes. I loved the show and hate to see it go, but at least we will have some closure.

Matthew Chmiel 05-13-07 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by zekeburger1979
Until it's official, I'm not believing any news about a cancellation. In the N.Y. Times article, it says that Scrubs won't be picked up. However, Michael Ausiello has an exclusive post on TVGuide.com that Scrubs will be picked up for an 18 episode 7th season. Granted, he's not official news either, but I trust him more.

As much as I love the show, it's done. It's over. The sets have already been torn down. As much as NBC probably loved the major demographic that was tuning in (rich folk), the ratings weren't there for a show that's expensive to produce.

I'm hoping Aaron Sorkin's next venture in television is successful. Studio 60 and Sports Night didn't deserve their premature deaths.

RayChuang 05-13-07 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
As much as I love the show, it's done. It's over. The sets have already been torn down. As much as NBC probably loved the major demographic that was tuning in (rich folk), the ratings weren't there for a show that's expensive to produce.

I'm hoping Aaron Sorkin's next venture in television is successful. Studio 60 and Sports Night didn't deserve their premature deaths.

Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip never really "clicked" with the audience because too many viewers didn't understand the premise of that show.

bboisvert 05-13-07 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
As much as I love the show, it's done. It's over. The sets have already been torn down. As much as NBC probably loved the major demographic that was tuning in (rich folk), the ratings weren't there for a show that's expensive to produce.

As lotsofdvds indicates, shame on NBC for never once -- not ONCE -- trying this show out in a different timeslot.

Red Dog 05-13-07 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by RayChuang
Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip never really "clicked" with the audience because too many viewers didn't understand the premise of that show.


I don't think it clicked because the main characters were pretentious, annoying, and relatively uninteresting and the show spoke down to the audience far too often. I don't think there were any timeslots where this show would have garnered higher ratings.

kevin75 05-13-07 12:16 PM

while i am kinda sad this is going away, maybe now that there is an hour open, they can bring bad Ed. :)

lotsofdvds 05-13-07 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
I don't think it clicked because the main characters were pretentious, annoying, and relatively uninteresting and the show spoke down to the audience far too often. I don't think there were any timeslots where this show would have garnered higher ratings.

A lot of people didn't feel that way.

Red Dog 05-13-07 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by lotsofdvds
A lot of people didn't feel that way.


A lot of people don't feel that it failed to click because of what I said OR a lot of people don't think that the the characters were pretentious, etc....

I stand by what I said. I'm sure some (not sure what 'a lot' means - obviously not enough to generate a good rating) thought that the characters were not pretentious, etc.... I actually liked the show. Not one of my favorites, but there was enough (mainly from Weber, Asner, and Peet (except for the romantic crap)) to keep me entertained for the most part.

Ronnie Dobbs 05-14-07 01:32 PM

Officially axed from NBC.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/0....ap/index.html

auntiewinnie 05-14-07 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
I don't think it clicked because the main characters were pretentious, annoying, and relatively uninteresting and the show spoke down to the audience far too often. I don't think there were any timeslots where this show would have garnered higher ratings.

I don't know if it's fair to say that it spoke down to its audience. I think the show's audience found its disdain for the larger, mainstream potential tv audience (which largely ignored the program, or at least gave up on it pretty quickly) comforting. It seemed to help to reinforce their views that they were in an exclusive club that was able to appreciate the high-quality cutting-edge dramatic television Studio 60 offered (remember all that talk about how the show did great in certain sought after demographic groups?) while the rest of the plebs in their living rooms were gorging themselves on reality tv and other inferior programming fare. That's the impression I got from many of the postings here complaining about the general audience's lack of watching.

lordwow 05-14-07 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by auntiewinnie
I don't know if it's fair to say that it spoke down to its audience. I think the show's audience found its disdain for the larger, mainstream potential tv audience (which largely ignored the program, or at least gave up on it pretty quickly) comforting. It seemed to help to reinforce their views that they were in an exclusive club that was able to appreciate the high-quality cutting-edge dramatic television Studio 60 offered (remember all that talk about how the show did great in certain sought after demographic groups?) while the rest of the plebs in their living rooms were gorging themselves on reality tv and other inferior programming fare. That's the impression I got from many of the postings here complaining about the general audience's lack of watching.

I didn't really enjoy S60, and I was probably the best potential viewer for it (well-educated and trying to get into the production field). Probably my biggest gripe was that the show was based on a great premise (SNL isn't funny anymore), and yet week after week the Show within a Show was downright painful to watch. If you're going to go out there and rip on SNL, then you better have something funnier on your show (Even if it is the show within a show).

Ayre 05-14-07 02:16 PM

We were also complaining about the crappy episodes. This show really didn't hit its peak until Christmas and then it dropped of sharply. The xmas episode was one of the better hours of TV, but that doesn't make up for the 10 before it.

I certainly didn't like every episode and I understood the show. As much as we would like to believe that we are the elite and educated few, the truth is more likely to be that the population simply didn't LIKE the show. Studio 60 was also an insider show, rather smug and heavy handed with politics. Add to that the marginal dislike for the characters and a horrible time slot and you have a recipe for cancellation.

lotsofdvds 05-14-07 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by lordwow
I didn't really enjoy S60, and I was probably the best potential viewer for it (well-educated and trying to get into the production field). Probably my biggest gripe was that the show was based on a great premise (SNL isn't funny anymore), and yet week after week the Show within a Show was downright painful to watch. If you're going to go out there and rip on SNL, then you better have something funnier on your show (Even if it is the show within a show).

1) Those segments were only small slivers of the show.
2) They really stopped showing them after a while.

I agree that the "on air" comedy was painful to watch, but it was such a miniscule portion of what the show actually was.

boogieman03 05-14-07 02:23 PM

The Chris Hanson catches Santa Claus was probably the funniest bit they did on the show within a show.

Michael Corvin 05-14-07 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
A lot of people don't feel that it failed to click because of what I said OR a lot of people don't think that the the characters were pretentious, etc....

I stand by what I said. I'm sure some (not sure what 'a lot' means - obviously not enough to generate a good rating) thought that the characters were not pretentious, etc.... I actually liked the show. Not one of my favorites, but there was enough (mainly from Weber, Asner, and Peet (except for the romantic crap)) to keep me entertained for the most part.

That to me was the main problem of the show. The 'network' side of the show was far more interesting than the 'studio 60' side of the show. Unfortunately the 'network' side was only about 15% of the show. I wonder if the outcome would have been different had those percentages been flipped.

Red Dog 05-14-07 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Ayre

I certainly didn't like every episode and I understood the show. As much as we would like to believe that we are the elite and educated few, the truth is more likely to be that the population simply didn't LIKE the show. Studio 60 was also an insider show, rather smug and heavy handed with politics. Add to that the marginal dislike for the characters and a horrible time slot and you have a recipe for cancellation.


Exactly, which is what I was getting at. Although like I said before, I can't imagine this show faring any better in another timeslot. The heavy handedness and politics worked perfectly for Sorkin's West Wing (even though I disagreed with most of the views advanced) precisely because politics were a central and necessary part of it and there was so much on the line with the jobs the characters had. Plus, with the exception of Toby, all the characters were extremely likeable.

Achtung 05-14-07 03:10 PM

At the end of the day, this was a show whose premise was hating what television has become, and its going to be tough to attract mainstream viewers when you're attacking the very thing they like.

It was a good show... good, not great, IMO. Felt like too much was going on sometimes... too many characters, too many plots, too many relationships. Probably one of the better shows on TV, but never quite connected with its audience.

It's a shame, because I was a huge fan of "Sports Night" too. Wonder if this will cause Sorkin to rethink his style a bit.

madcougar 05-14-07 09:27 PM

No clue why this show clicked with me so much. I'll miss it, but it won't be the first time network TV has let me down.

BravesMG 05-14-07 09:54 PM

I haven't seen any of these, but I would be interested in the inevitable DVD release. Does anyone know if the last aired episodes will tie anything up and make any semblance of a complete story?

Red Dog 05-15-07 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by DodgingCars
This coming from someone that refers to pretty much everyone but himself as carbon blobs.


I may use the term a lot, but that's not really the case. Also, I don't directly call or treat someone I am speaking to as a carbon blob unless maybe they demonstate complete and total ignorance. I'm also not in the business of entertaining and cultivating a following.

rfduncan 05-15-07 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by bravesmg
Does anyone know if the last aired episodes will tie anything up and make any semblance of a complete story?

If the writers were smart, they'd handle the storylines like they were handled on Sports Night where each season ender could have pretty much been a series ender if it wasn't brought back. At this stage, Studio 60 has been off for so long that I don't even remember what was happening in anyone's stories except Jordan having her baby...

Fanboy 05-15-07 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by boogieman03
The Chris Hanson catches Santa Claus was funnier than anything on SNL this season.

Fixed that for ya.

Agreed, though, that aside from that one sketch, the rest of the on-air "comedy" on the show was anything but. Sad to see the show go. It was a favourite of the wife and I.

alphabetsoup 05-15-07 02:49 PM

Too bad it's officially cancelled now. So sad

innocentfreak 05-15-07 11:16 PM

Yeah my mother didn't talk to me the rest of the day after I told her it was canceled.


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