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Jobronie 01-19-07 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
Gotta love the [b]Dwight waving off the blindfold as if it were some kind of advantage for a pinata was hilarious.

"I don't need it."

That one killed me......

Chew 01-19-07 06:18 AM

The "Mexican Lemonaide" was a :lol:

As to the first picture, it's just some random one I picked from NBC.com to open up the thread. Sorry if it came off as a "spoiler". :(

Michael Corvin 01-19-07 07:08 AM

Another brilliant episode. The cell phone gag was great. I love how this show doesn't exist outside the realm of reality. Having references to Staples, Lost & Battlestar Galactica all in one episode. Nice touch.

I think we should have seen Dwight at Staples for another episode or two. Him getting into it with the other employees would have been great.

david12 01-19-07 07:35 AM

Mexicanity.

Patman 01-19-07 07:51 AM

Dwigt's Staples subplot was actually funnier then Andy's obsessiveness in the kiss-ass department. I was more aghast than Michael when Andy was all in Michael's personal space. Loved it when Jim hung up the call to the cell phone above the ceiling tiles after Andy went nutso and punched the wall. Dwigt's reaction to thinking they threw him a "Welcome back Oscar" party was excellent, plus the pinata thrashing.

lordwow 01-19-07 08:09 AM

One subtle thing that amused me that got overshadowed was Oscar going to grab the broom to hit the Pinata, and Michael passing it right by him to Dwight.

Also, props to Angela who made me laugh almost everytime she was on screen.

cleaver 01-19-07 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Having references to Staples, Lost & Battlestar Galactica all in one episode.

Where was the BSG reference?
When Andy tells Michael "You were like RA TE POW RE PAH and Pam was like BLAH BLE BOW" I was cracking up, and then Andy gave him this look that may have been the funniest facial expression of all time.

Matt 01-19-07 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Sex Fiend
I think the joke was that Michael is so utterly clueless that Dwight and Angela are involved with one another that he thinks Dwight wouldn't know to whom he was referring unless he specified she was "Angela from Accounting."

I thought that was a bit of a call back to Angela's talking head in the last episode, when she mentioned "Dwight. . . from Sales?" as if there were several other Dwights around the office.

Palaver 01-19-07 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Sex Fiend
I think the joke was that Michael is so utterly clueless that Dwight and Angela are involved with one another that he thinks Dwight wouldn't know to whom he was referring unless he specified she was "Angela from Accounting."

That's what I thought as well.

vegasbaby 01-19-07 08:19 AM

I realize that Andy was supposed to be annoying, but he was EXCEPTIONALLY annoying!

I want him gone. His annoyingness wasnt funny.

Matt 01-19-07 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by cleaver
Where was the BSG reference?

Dwight was wearing a BSG shirt when he came back to the office.

vegasbaby 01-19-07 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by cleaver
Where was the BSG reference?

Dwight's sweatshirt. I know, not quick enough!

cdollaz 01-19-07 08:22 AM

What was the last thing Michael said when hiding behind the door? Something along the lines of how Andy had no sense of what people thought of him. Pretty ironic coming from Michael since he is exactly the same way.

CPA-ESQ. 01-19-07 08:23 AM

What about when they wanted to blind-fold him and he said "I don't need that!" :lol:

Then went around the office smashing everything hanging from the ceiling

Groucho 01-19-07 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Chew
As to the first picture, it's just some random one I picked from NBC.com to open up the thread. Sorry if it came off as a "spoiler". :(

It doesn't seem to be from this episode. The reason I pointed it out as a potential spoiler was because Dwight is in the photo.

My favorite moment has already been mentioned: the Officer and a Gentleman parody. Fairly subtle, but just silly enough to make it funny.

I've actually worked with an "Andy" before, a guy who would completely flip out when pranks were pulled on him. It was fun to see Michael as the "straight man" for once.

Meglos 01-19-07 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by Steam
The worst part of the episode was the fact that Ryan is still on the show and still a douche. What the hell is his role in the show? Yeeccch.

I kinda agree with this. Ryan's been getting on my nerves this season. In fact, I enjoyed seeing him get knocked down a peg in last week's ep.

Nefarious 01-19-07 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by cdollaz
What was the last thing Michael said when hiding behind the door? Something along the lines of how Andy had no sense of what people thought of him. Pretty ironic coming from Michael since he is exactly the same way.

That was the funniest part for me too. The pot calling the kettle black. I don't know the exact quote but it was along those lines. I thought it was something about him being so socially unaware.



As for Ryan, I think he's nailing the emotional state of his character. He never intended to be a true employee and then did. He had a miserable outing with Dwight for training and then bombed with Stanley. I think his line when Jim said he liked him better as a temp and he responded, "Yeah, me too," was the key. He's so bitter and disillusioned right now. He can't fathom why he took the permanent job but that couple with him actually failing at it has got to be a blow to his self-confidence.

cleaver 01-19-07 09:05 AM

Andy could be my favorite character ever, I'm going to be seriously bummed if they don't keep him around.

it's in yoouoourrr heeeeaaaad in yooouuurr hheeeaaad
zombie zombie zomb ie ie ie

lordwow 01-19-07 09:18 AM

As for Ryan, I think his character is supposed to be the sterotypical person who hates their job and wants nothing to do with anyone there.

Andy as well is supposed to be incredibly annoying to the point it's not funny. When he gets fired (which I thought might have happened after he punched a hole in the wall) we'll all be happy.

jonw9 01-19-07 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by Nefarious
I think his line when Jim said he liked him better as a temp and he responded, "Yeah, me too," was the key.

Me three!

rfduncan 01-19-07 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by Nefarious
I think his line when Jim said he liked him better as a temp and he responded, "Yeah, me too," was the key. He's so bitter and disillusioned right now. He can't fathom why he took the permanent job but that couple with him actually failing at it has got to be a blow to his self-confidence.

DING! DING! DING! Thank God somebody got this. Basically I see Ryan as a foil to Andy. He just wants to do his job and get the hell outta there each day, while Andy loves being there so much that he tries to extend the day into social activities with his co-worker AFTER work.

Dwight was hilarious with the comment at Staples, "Okay, but I'm not doing your laundry anymore." Michael: "We'll discuss that..."

Bill Needle 01-19-07 09:45 AM

What's with all the hatin' on Andy? I loved this exchange:

Michael: (speaking of Dwight leaving) Its a big loss. Dwight was our top salesman.

Andy: Was our top salesman.

Michael: I said "was."

Andy: Right. Addition by subtraction.

Michael: Whaaaat does that even mean? That is impossible.

Andy: Mmmhhh...Yeah, you're right.

Obey The D 01-19-07 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by Bill Needle
What's with all the hatin' on Andy?

One word: TUNA!

Ginwen 01-19-07 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by cleaver
Andy could be my favorite character ever, I'm going to be seriously bummed if they don't keep him around.

it's in yoouoourrr heeeeaaaad in yooouuurr hheeeaaad
zombie zombie zomb ie ie ie

I hate Andy and want him gone. Other than him going insane last night, I don't think he's funny at all.

Bill Needle 01-19-07 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Ginwen
I hate Andy and want him gone. Other than him going insane last night, I don't think he's funny at all.

Check out the producers cut on the NBC site.

Spoiler:
They cut a bit from the end that had Andy driving to the start of an anger management course that is supposed to last 10 weeks, but he intends to finish in 5 through the use of nods and smiles. So you may get a break from him.

Incidently there was some great stuff from Creed cut, a great sight gag based on the results of Michael incessantly driving with his car top down - even in the winter, and Phyllis shows some moves during the Welcome Back Oscar party.

jonw9 01-19-07 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by rfduncan
Dwight was hilarious with the comment at Staples, "Okay, but I'm not doing your laundry anymore." Michael: "We'll discuss that..."

"That question doesn't make any sense. Go ahead and get the copy paper then"

:lol:

cleaver 01-19-07 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by Ginwen
I hate Andy and want him gone. Other than him going insane last night, I don't think he's funny at all.

I don't understand why people don't think he's funny. Every time he's on camera he cracks me up.

Patman 01-19-07 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by cleaver
I don't understand why people don't think he's funny. Every time he's on camera he cracks me up.

I wince whenever he's onscreen.

shumway 01-19-07 10:40 AM

I think the sole reason that Andy is asking Michael to hang out with him is not that he likes his work so much, it's because he's a giant kissass and wants to try to endear himself in hopes of self-promotion, exactly as Michael mentioned at the end of the episode.

I was actually wondering if Andy's crap might help Michael be a little more self-aware about himself. Probably wishful thinking though.

Also, count me amongst the many that can't wait for Andy to get canned. I hope he goes out in a supernova of fury, as long as no one actually gets hurt. Above all though, I would really love it if it turned out that he really didn't graduate from Cornell afterall and was only faking it to make himself look better.

vegasbaby 01-19-07 10:43 AM

Andy was funny for a short time when he started his new gig. I laughed for a while ...

But last nite he was completely annoying and more importantly, not funny!

Matt 01-19-07 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Bill Needle
Check out the producers cut on the NBC site.

Spoiler:
Incidently there was some great stuff from Creed cut, a great sight gag based on the results of Michael incessantly driving with his car top down - even in the winter

Haven't seen the long cut yet, but is the top down scene the reason why Michael looked so disheveled when he went to save Dwight? I was thinking there had to be some deleted scene which would have explained that. . .

snoogins 01-19-07 11:16 AM

I guess Ryan had a Turkey sandwich since Andy referred to him as "Big Turkey" ?

Also, does anybody else think that Andy is attempting to bug Jim since he now views Jim as his nemesis (since Dwight's out of the picture)? After all Jim is number 2.

Good Ep!!

shumway 01-19-07 11:29 AM

Andy was doing the same thing to Jim even when they were in Stamford.

rfduncan 01-19-07 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by shumway
I think the sole reason that Andy is asking Michael to hang out with him is not that he likes his work so much, it's because he's a giant kissass and wants to try to endear himself in hopes of self-promotion, exactly as Michael mentioned at the end of the episode.

But wasn't he also the guy who got drunk in the office with Jim and slept there that one time in Stanford?

Sex Fiend 01-19-07 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Patman
I wince whenever he's onscreen.

Yeah, I'm in that group, too. I think he can be an entertaining character when he's toned down about five notches, but not when he is so over the top that it becomes just bizarre. The character of Andy (and the occasional trend toward similarly 'waaay-too-over-the-top wackiness' from some of the other characters) has been what has made this season less entertaining than the last season for me.

I'm hopeful that when Andy is finally written out, the show will fully settle back into its traditional style - slightly goofy, but firmly anchored in reality.

Jimmy James 01-19-07 11:44 AM

Nothing about Andy is supposed to be directly entertaining. He creates entertaining situations by giving the other characters something to bounce off of. He's also not at all over the top -- he's the workplace psycho, and the actor is pulling it off well.

Bill Needle 01-19-07 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by MWB
Haven't seen the long cut yet, but is the top down scene the reason why Michael looked so disheveled when he went to save Dwight? I was thinking there had to be some deleted scene which would have explained that. . .

There was a scene early on of Michael arriving at work and he couldn't get the top to go back up. Then, if you recall, in the background windows during the episode you could see snow falling, plus there was the conversation between Dwight and his coworker at Staples about how bad the roads were going to be on the drive home. When Michael is leaving the office to get Dwight, as he arrives at his car he (and we) see that it snowed about 6 to 8 inches that day. The disheveled look can certainly be inferred from the drive he took once he shoveled out his car.

Kal-El 01-19-07 11:45 AM

"Each file is password-protected with a different mythical creature." <-- I loved that bit. Classic Dwight!

Meglos 01-19-07 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by rfduncan
DING! DING! DING! Thank God somebody got this. Basically I see Ryan as a foil to Andy. He just wants to do his job and get the hell outta there each day, while Andy loves being there so much that he tries to extend the day into social activities with his co-worker AFTER work.

Oh, I get this fine. Like Ryan, I graduated from a temp position to a full time office job where I work now. And even though I'm not exactly happy in my job and it's not where I saw my life going, I don't act like I'm better than my position or my co-workers like he does (check his flip "Ask me ten years ago." line from last night).
I guess after running into too many "Ryans" at work, it gets kinda grating to see one on TV.

zekeburger1979 01-19-07 11:53 AM

In the extended producers cut:

Spoiler:

Oscar: "Company lease from the settlement."

Michael: "this company knows how to take care of its employees."



Talking Head: Oscar: "Part of me wishes that these people learned their lesson and shut the hell up and part of me wishes that they keep treating me like this because I could use a new home theater!" :D



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