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Old 11-02-06 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BadlyDrawnBoy
did anyone else hear a clicking noise when the black smoke was moving around and killing one of my favourite characters>
To me it actually sounded like the sound made by locusts.
My coworker said that it sounded like the noise cicada's make.

here's a link to the sound cicada's make
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/...ng.ogg&wiki=en

Something else that my coworker pointed out:she thinks the music at the funeral was the same music that Sayid and Hurley heard on the radio that one time when they were able to pickup a radio broadcast for a few seconds. Can anyone with the season 2 dvds confirm?

I also agree, I'm not sure if Juliet is playing Jack or not. Recall Sawyers Long Con episode. He conned that woman by making her think she was in on a con with him. Maybe by telling Jack how they planned to break him is actually part of their plan.

Adding to further speculation, could "Patchy" by Radzinski? Afterall, they found the glass eye in the Arrow along with the Bible that contained the missing frames that Radzinski took out of the Swan's orientation film.

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Old 11-02-06 | 04:56 PM
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I swear that people just want to complain about shows more than anything else.
"I hated this episode! Nothing happened!!! Same crap every week! When are they going to get the ball rolling???"

"I hated this episode! I hated all the stuff that happened!!! Stupid new characters, killing off the old ones... Why couldn't they have just left it alone???"

Old 11-02-06 | 06:04 PM
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The black smoke sounds like a roller coaster going uphill.
Old 11-02-06 | 06:10 PM
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Well, either Juliet is in on the scam, or they are Ben's x-rays.
Remember he said he found out about the tumor 2 days before Jack (and Locke) arrived. I would think Juliet was involved in the diagnosis of the tumor.
Ben and Juliet's discussion on the beach was out of Jack's range. He asked her why she showed his x-rays to Jack. Which to me, means Juliet was serious in her message to Jack.
Old 11-02-06 | 06:13 PM
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That whole scene was a big 'huh?' to me. I was trying to read Locke's facial expression and tone when he said it, and trying to determine if he was being sarcastic. I'm just wondering if maybe Locke meant he didn't know that other stations besides the Swan were also being watched, and the writers made it very, very unclear.

I think it was pretty obvious that Locke was being sarcastic. It was actually pretty funny.
Old 11-02-06 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DRG
I'm assuming after this episode that ALL of the "I see dead people/people who aren't here" hallucinations are related to the black smoke. I'm thinking it's some mass of microscopic things that can take any form. I also think that
Spoiler:
it has the power to 'scan' people's minds and uses it to calculate what forms to take and what information to use towards them.
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Which, if true, will make the smoke monster an interesting entity in the battle between the Losties and the Others. If the smoke monster is guarding the island it seems to be judging people as good/bad, hence Ecko and Locke seeing different things. Regardless of what Ecko said to it, he should have repented for the killings that occured due to his drug deals. This is probably why the monster took him.

BTW, the smoke monster showing up as Walt in season 2 backs this theory up as well, as Walt was warning Shannon to be quiet. She didn't hence she was killed moments later.
Old 11-02-06 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by IDrinkMolson
Well, either Juliet is in on the scam, or they are Ben's x-rays.
Remember he said he found out about the tumor 2 days before Jack (and Locke) arrived. I would think Juliet was involved in the diagnosis of the tumor.
Ben and Juliet's discussion on the beach was out of Jack's range. He asked her why she showed his x-rays to Jack. Which to me, means Juliet was serious in her message to Jack.
I think both characters are playing Jack and trying to be the leader of the Others. One thing Juliet said that surprised me was that all of them wanted Ben out. In season 2 some of the comments that came from the others seemed to indicate they could not operate without Ben.
Old 11-02-06 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cracksky
I can't wait to see more of Kelvin's backstory with his previous partner. Since he was the one who made the edits in the orientation films and started the invisible map, there's definitely a lot more to learn there. If the Swan station was supposed to push the button and the Pearl station was led to believe they were monitoring all the other stations, then what station was monitoring the Pearl station?
Maybe then the Flame station is monitoring the Pearl station and all the others.

Originally Posted by Cardiff Giant
Adding to further speculation, could "Patchy" by Radzinski? Afterall, they found the glass eye in the Arrow along with the Bible that contained the missing frames that Radzinski took out of the Swan's orientation film.
This is very possible and would bring Desmond to the story.

Originally Posted by cracksky
Just watched the finale again for the forth time. When the team of four + Michael find the tubes to nowhere, Kate starts reading from one of the journals:

0:4:00 - S.R. Moves the Ping Pong table again
0:4:15 - S.R. Takes a shower

S.R. must be Radzinski (Kelvin's partner). Wonder what he's hiding behind the Ping Pong table on the shelf? It can't just be the Orientation film. Or maybe it's under the table. Plus, we already saw Locke going through all the books, at one point, looking for hidden stuff.

I wonder if Radzinski really offed himself or was killed by Kelvin. There's a lot of info in those journals. If Desmond survives, he's gonna want to read all of 'em! Wonder where Kelvin buried Radzinski within 108 minutes.
Is Radzinski really dead? Or is he heading the Flame station? Did Kelvin think he was dead which is why he kept expecting a new partner to arrive. Maybe Dharma just wanted to move him to the Flame station for another purpose (control the monster?).
Old 11-02-06 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cdoug57
Good to see the "security system" once again. Glad to know it can take on human form. Found that very interesting. Just wonder why the "system" would kill Eko when the last time they met, they seemed to just act cautious and circle each other.
Perhaps the black smoke spoke to Eko before, and told him to continue to press the button. When he failed at doing so, it returned to him taking the form of his brother Yemi, demanding that he confess his sin (failing to continue pressing the button), and when Eko said that he had nothing to confess, he suffererded his punnishment.

I guess we now know how different people have been seeing images of dead people, and having it seem so real. Not to mention that it explains the visions of Walt as well.
Old 11-02-06 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DthRdrX
One thing Juliet said that surprised me was that all of them wanted Ben out.
Are you sure she said all of them, i thought she said something like "some of us want a change".
Old 11-02-06 | 08:01 PM
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Are you sure she said all of them, i thought she said something like "some of us want a change".
She said nothing of the sort. She did write something like that, though.

Sorry -- I'm just in a very Alec Baldwin in Malice mood.
Old 11-02-06 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DthRdrX
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Which, if true, will make the smoke monster an interesting entity in the battle between the Losties and the Others. If the smoke monster is guarding the island it seems to be judging people as good/bad, hence Ecko and Locke seeing different things. Regardless of what Ecko said to it, he should have repented for the killings that occured due to his drug deals. This is probably why the monster took him.

BTW, the smoke monster showing up as Walt in season 2 backs this theory up as well, as Walt was warning Shannon to be quiet. She didn't hence she was killed moments later.
It's also explains some of the random disappearances and craziness and perhaps the others are blamed for some of the monster's work. If the monster can take other forms, it might explain why Danielle's crew went crazy (see images of their dead friends). It could also explain some of the missing people who we have not seen with the Others. The other taily woman (can't remember her name) disappeared in the blink of an eye while the tailies traveled to the main camp. I assumed the Others, but I think monster now.

It's possible the smoke monster also controls the Others to an extent (maybe it can't leave the one island). They seemed to have this very neat, clean perfect existence before the plane crash. If the monster judges people, it would explain why they acted that way (and maybe why they are stuck there).
Old 11-02-06 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by noir
The black smoke made its first appearance in the first episode of the series when the airplane engine blew up. The smoke wisps diagonally across the screen during the explosion.
no it doesnt and no it isnt.

that think flying by was just
junk flying around from the crash and the
engine was still running and stirring up debris.
and as jay said the thing blew up
after locke caused a guy to get sucked into it
by causing him to stop right in front of it,
by calling to him to get away from the engine
Old 11-03-06 | 12:27 AM
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Seeing how the monster killed Eko, I have to wonder if the monster killed Steve/Scott back in season one instead of Ethan.

And Ethan then took credit for the death as leverage to get Claire back.
Old 11-03-06 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Seeing how the monster killed Eko, I have to wonder if the monster killed Steve/Scott back in season one instead of Ethan.

And Ethan then took credit for the death as leverage to get Claire back.
Did it also string up Charlie and kill the one tail section guy?
Old 11-03-06 | 12:52 AM
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Another thing I just remembered that bothered the piss out of me. It was implied that the Pearl station was watching the other stations without them knowing it, via hidden cameras that the occupants of said other stations wouldn't know about. Not only did old eyepatch know about the camera, he was magically there looking at it at the exact moment that Sayid connected its feed. Apparently this was just so that he could look menancing and turn it off. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
The Dharma Initiative has been inactive for a while on the island, so you can't assume that the current inhabitants of a hatch are as ignorant of the overall workings as originally planned. It's very likely that Eyepatch Man knows about the monitoring and either the camera became exposed through structural damage, as in the Pearl where a camera has been revealed, or by purposefully looking for and exposing them, or, as in the case of the Hydra station, them not being hidden in the first place, but part of the station's security system.

As for why he was able to know he was being observed at that moment, the Hydra's cameras have a light on them to show that they're working. When Sayid patched in the camera, it might've activated the camera as well as started to receive the signal. Also, the camera pans in the room before revealing Eyepatch man, which would be noticeable visually and possibly audibly as well.
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I'll bet we find out that ol' Radzy was able to hear everything that was going on in the Pearl station when (and before) the camera suddenly came on in his station. He's been waiting for this confrontation for a long time.
Old 11-03-06 | 03:45 AM
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Given the misinformation about the hatch that blew up present on the Pearl's orientation film and the big bunch of notebooks just abandoned, didn't we infer that the orientation film was a lie?
Old 11-03-06 | 07:55 AM
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that think flying by was just
junk flying around from the crash and the
engine was still running and stirring up debris.
and as jay said the thing blew up
after locke caused a guy to get sucked into it
by causing him to stop right in front of it,
by calling to him to get away from the engine
Is that some sort of weird Lost haiku
Old 11-03-06 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob V
Is that some sort of weird Lost haiku
I think he's taken to just scanning his clue notebook in, rather than typing in actual posts.
Old 11-03-06 | 09:03 AM
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Aliens. Discuss.
Old 11-03-06 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RickerOne
Aliens. Discuss.
Very good film, although I think the first film is more distinctive.
Old 11-03-06 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by whotony
no it doesnt and no it isnt.

that think flying by was just
junk flying around from the crash and the
engine was still running and stirring up debris.
and as jay said the thing blew up
after locke caused a guy to get sucked into it
by causing him to stop right in front of it,
by calling to him to get away from the engine
I disagree. I think that was Smokie flying around after the crash. I think Smokie is the reason there were so many survivors in the plane crash.
Old 11-03-06 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Groucho
I think he's taken to just scanning his clue notebook in, rather than typing in actual posts.
oops, sorry about the way that post looked.

hit the return button too many times i guess.
Old 11-03-06 | 09:50 AM
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locke yells at a guy to get away from the engine, guy stops.
then this frame is exactly the next from after guy yells, "what?"


then these next three frames inexact order after guy gets sucked into the engine.

pic 2
pic 3
pic 4


guy getting sucked in because he stopped right in front of the running engine is why it blew up

wow they were big changed to links

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