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Big Boy Laroux 10-05-06 09:15 AM

so two weeks in a row, it takes the whole episode just to get to an interesting part with "Mr. Hawkins". maybe i should just always fast-forward to the last 5 minutes.

i take that back, i did think the short scene with skeetgyver finding the planes was interesting. but that's about it.

of all the times to cheat on your wife, during a fallout, coupled with a blackout, doesn't seem like the best time. I'd assume his wife would want to know where he is.

lordwow 10-05-06 09:17 AM

So...

What was up with Skeet's reaction when the Black guy said who he was?

Red Dog 10-05-06 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by aktick
I like this, but good God, the HS kids storyline is ridiculous. I know kids that age are awfully "clicky," but I know for a fact that 99% of kids that age would come together and be supportive of even the "dorks" in something as catostrophic as this. They really don't need that stupid storyline for this.


Yeah - but it will be nice to see the nerd tap that popular chick.

I'm definitely enjoying the show though. It won't win any awards but it keeps me entertained.

boogieman03 10-05-06 09:32 AM

You know, if this was LOST, skeetgyver would of kept the information from the black box to himself, so at least we got to hear it.

Yes having your affair during a nuclear attack, not the smartest thing.

candyrocket786 10-05-06 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by boogieman03
You know, if this was LOST, skeetgyver would of kept the information from the black box to himself, so at least we got to hear it.

Yes having your affair during a nuclear attack, not the smartest thing.

If it was like Lost... we would have commerical breaks every five minutes.

Mok 10-05-06 09:57 AM

I like the show and look forward to the next episode.

Gdrlv 10-05-06 11:19 AM

I thought this was, by far, the best episode of the series so far. If I hadn't enjoyed tonight, I would've given up on it, but I'll stick around a few more weeks at least.

SmithsGuy 10-05-06 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
Just to add an actual theory to this thread

The black dude is probably part of a government program to provide military and government leadership in case this happened and a resistance/rebellion needed to be generated.

Anyone see what he had in the storage locker? Were the guns in the 50 gal drum or somewhere else? And why brick up the drum?

Also, anyone have a screenshot of the US map from the news broadcast? Some details there on what has been nuked.

Ciao,
Smithsguy

Quatermass 10-05-06 11:33 AM

I liked it too, although I can't explain why.

I gave them the benefit of the doubt earlier but they are really playing fast and loose with the geography and science. Why was the meat safe to eat if everyone in town had to be underground to avoid radiation poisoning? I know, they they just "cooked" the radiation out of it.
I thought the airplane discovery scene was good, very "Planet of the Apes". I'll keep watching.

Mopower 10-05-06 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by Quatermass
I liked it too, although I can't explain why.

I gave them the benefit of the doubt earlier but they are really playing fast and loose with the geography and science. Why was the meat safe to eat if everyone in town had to be underground to avoid radiation poisoning? I know, they they just "cooked" the radiation out of it.
I thought the airplane discovery scene was good, very "Planet of the Apes". I'll keep watching.


They found out that the rain wasn't radioactive.

Shannon Nutt 10-05-06 12:58 PM

Anyone speak Chinese or Japanese or whatever language was being used during the broadcast? Just seeing if we could get a translation.

BTW, can someone fill me in on exactly what the situation is with the power in town? Is it on or off? Some places don't seem to have power at all, yet that damn TV in the bar is running 24/7. If they're running it off a generator, seems like a big waste of power, doesn't it?

Groucho 10-05-06 12:59 PM

I'd provide a translation of the Mandarin for you, but unfortunately I don't know any ex-cops from St. Louis. (They got up to speed after 9/11, you know).

Mopower 10-05-06 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Anyone speak Chinese or Japanese or whatever language was being used during the broadcast? Just seeing if we could get a translation.

BTW, can someone fill me in on exactly what the situation is with the power in town? Is it on or off? Some places don't seem to have power at all, yet that damn TV in the bar is running 24/7. If they're running it off a generator, seems like a big waste of power, doesn't it?


I guess the bar is the local gathering place for everyone. So they have the power on there but not at the hardware store, Dave's Discount Shoe Depot, etc.

Flave 10-05-06 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Dave99
Love how .jr can retrieve a cockpit voice recorder and play it on a reel 2 reel, and then do some amazing magic to draw out that one faint transmission in the background by flipping a few switches. Oh, and the planes had to land on the highways, because they apparently couldn't navigate without ATC, or use one of the thousands of small airports that cover the country. I know I'm supposed to suspend rational thought for this show, but it's getting pretty ridiculous.

So true. When I saw them playing the tape I almost spit up my drink. What a pathetic joke.

And WTF happened to all that radiocative dust? It DISSOLVED in the rain?! Good Christ, if a radioactive cloud really passed over Jericho, their effing Geiger counters would be clicking off the dial for decades -- rain or no rain. If anything, the rain would make the radioactive affects worse.

You know, I had the same problem with Surface last year. If you're going to make a scifi show, don't use Hollywood chimps as writers. Use writers who have, as a bare minimum, a basic understanding of science and technology. Otherwise your audience will laugh you all the way to the unemployment line.

This show's on life support AFAIC.

OldDude 10-05-06 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Flave
And WTF happened to all that radiocative dust? It DISSOLVED in the rain?! Good Christ, if a radioactive cloud really passed over Jericho, their effing Geiger counters would be clicking off the dial for decades -- rain or no rain.

We tested more than a couple of hundred nuclear weapons in above ground tests on the Nevada test range in the 50's and 60's. While there was some increase in radiation in surrounding areas, it was not very dramatic. Only HUGE hydrogen weapons (several megaton) were tested in the Pacific.

Of course with the "attacker" not unidentified, it is hard to speculate on whether his bombs might be far dirtier than ours.

jasondaub 10-05-06 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SmithsGuy
Anyone see what he had in the storage locker? Were the guns in the 50 gal drum or somewhere else? And why brick up the drum?

Also, anyone have a screenshot of the US map from the news broadcast? Some details there on what has been nuked.

Ciao,
Smithsguy


Flave 10-05-06 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by OldDude
We tested more than a couple of hundred nuclear weapons in above ground tests on the Nevada test range in the 50's and 60's. While there was some increase in radiation in surrounding areas, it was not very dramatic. Only HUGE hydrogen weapons (several megaton) were tested in the Pacific.

Really? Have a chat with the folks who lived around Chernobyl and ask them about "dramatic". And that was a reactor whose effects were largely contained. A hydrogen bomb (and any modern attack would be with Hydrogen bombs) would be far far far worse.

Brooklyn 10-05-06 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by SmithsGuy
Anyone see what he had in the storage locker? Were the guns in the 50 gal drum or somewhere else? And why brick up the drum?

Also, anyone have a screenshot of the US map from the news broadcast? Some details there on what has been nuked.

Ciao,
Smithsguy

The map on the TV showed these cities with red circle markings around them

Philadelphia
Atlanta GA
Chicago IL
Dallas TX
Denver CO
San Diego CA
Fort Bragg CA
Portland OR

Upon closer inspection of the far shot of the map there are 2 hits in CA.
The second looks to be Fort Bragg.

Red Dog 10-05-06 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by OldDude
We tested more than a couple of hundred nuclear weapons in above ground tests on the Nevada test range in the 50's and 60's. While there was some increase in radiation in surrounding areas, it was not very dramatic. Only HUGE hydrogen weapons (several megaton) were tested in the Pacific.

Of course with the "attacker" not unidentified, it is hard to speculate on whether his bombs might be far dirtier than ours.


That's what I was thinking too. The map makes it look like a handful of major cities were targeted, although surprisingly Washington is not one of them. My guess at this point are small-scale nukes - probably smuggled in by terrorists.

Now the question is if only 7-8 cities were hit, would that necessarily bring down all ground-to-air communications?

Red Dog 10-05-06 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Brooklyn
The map on the TV showed these cities with red circle markings around them

Philadelphia
Atlanta
Chicago
Dallas
Denver
San Diego
Portland

Isn't this at least 1 hit shy of what was shown via the pushpin sequence in
last week's episode?

No NYC, no DC, no LA/SF? C'mon.


Looked like NYC to me instead of Philly. I also thought there were 2 in California - San Fran and either LA or SD.

lordwow 10-05-06 02:17 PM

Dallas was not on last week's pushpin map IIRC, but it's definately on that news pic.

boogieman03 10-05-06 02:22 PM

Yes, I also saw 2 in California. I would guess San Diego, based on the push pins and San Fran.

OldDude 10-05-06 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Flave
Really? Have a chat with the folks who lived around Chernobyl and ask them about "dramatic". And that was a reactor whose effects were largely contained. A hydrogen bomb (and any modern attack would be with Hydrogen bombs) would be far far far worse.

A reactor is all fission. Although I would disagree Chernobyl was "well contained." TMI was well contained, Chernobyl vented an enormous amount of nuclear waste.

Our nuclear weapons are all fusion-enhanced and have TINY fission cores. For comparable yield, fusion weapons are much cleaner. And in any case, hundreds of nuclear weapons have been set off on US soil, above ground, in tests. Certainly at ground zero, effects linger. You can only stay at Trinity site a few hours, and you can't roam around some of the Nevada test range. Still it is not that far to Las Vegas and some other important cities. There was NOT a several hundred mile swath of fallout and destruction.

If Denver was nuked, you wouldn't want to hang around, but the fallout a couple of hundred miles away would be minor, and a rain storm that started in Denver would have washed it out long before Jericho.

Brooklyn 10-05-06 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
Looked like NYC to me instead of Philly. I also thought there were 2 in California - San Fran and either LA or SD.

Definately looks closer to NYC than Philly on the map, but we were shown Philadelphia was one last week.

Big Boy Laroux 10-05-06 02:55 PM

philly's only 100 miles from new york, and that's a pretty zoomed-out map.


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