Veronica Mars: How is the second season?
#26
The problems with the "friend" was the casting and writing. Which I doubt UPN has anything to do with. The writing was unbelievably horrible for that character.
We can blame UPN, but it all comes down to the writing.
We can blame UPN, but it all comes down to the writing.
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Originally Posted by JayDerek
Yup, UPN wanted Veronica to have a female friend on the show. This next season Mac will be a regular, so we'll have more of a likeable friend.
I enjoyed the second season as much as the first. To the people saying the resolution of the mystery was a "cop-out": can you explain that? Just because it wasn't who you thought it was doesn't mean it was a cop-out.
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I just burned through the second season on DVD and have to disagree with most of the complaints. The mystery was engaging and I thought the villain was more plausible than the first season (or at least had more clues dropped throughout the season). The mood swings and personality shifts of some characters reminded me all too much of high school, so they seemed very believable to me and not a result of poor writing.
This is one of the best parent/child relationships on TV, not sure what complaints you could have about that.
My only real complaint with the season was the concessions that had to be made for budgetary reasons.
Originally Posted by Ayre
The strength of the relationship between Veronica and her dad is lacking.
My only real complaint with the season was the concessions that had to be made for budgetary reasons.
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I just burned through the second season on DVD and have to disagree with most of the complaints. The mystery was engaging and I thought the villain was more plausible than the first season (or at least had more clues dropped throughout the season). The mood swings and personality shifts of some characters reminded me all too much of high school, so they seemed very believable to me and not a result of poor writing.
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The strength of the relationship between Veronica and her dad is lacking.
This is one of the best parent/child relationships on TV, not sure what complaints you could have about that.
My only real complaint with the season was the concessions that had to be made for budgetary reasons.
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The strength of the relationship between Veronica and her dad is lacking.
This is one of the best parent/child relationships on TV, not sure what complaints you could have about that.
My only real complaint with the season was the concessions that had to be made for budgetary reasons.
Can't wait for season three!
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Originally Posted by WallyOPD
This is one of the best parent/child relationships on TV, not sure what complaints you could have about that.
He is barely part of her life in the second season. It is as if they are in two different story arcs. Keith Mars also has a smaller impact on the storyline from episode to episode.
I have always thought they need to get Veronica out of school, licensed and have her work for her dad. I think it would be a much better show.
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The Veronice/Keith relationship will suffer more when she's at college i think. I can't imagine her spending much time w/ him since she's at school...i know they'll be in the same city, but still....w/ college comes new friends, etc.
The 3rd season should be interesting. I'm liking that they're doing 3 mystery arcs, instead of just 1 season-wide arc.
I finished watching the 2nd season (for the first time) on DVD on Sunday. I loved it overall. A couple complaints here and there, but it's still one of the best shows on TV. Unfortunately i had the culprit spoiled for me for season 2 a few months ago.
The 3rd season should be interesting. I'm liking that they're doing 3 mystery arcs, instead of just 1 season-wide arc.
I finished watching the 2nd season (for the first time) on DVD on Sunday. I loved it overall. A couple complaints here and there, but it's still one of the best shows on TV. Unfortunately i had the culprit spoiled for me for season 2 a few months ago.
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In my opinion, Season 2 is a textbook example of what happens when writers lose all control, with too many plotlines and characters, and just end having to pull something out of their ass to attempt to close everything.
I hope the writers of Lost don't make this mistake. Might be too late.
I hope the writers of Lost don't make this mistake. Might be too late.
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Originally Posted by WallyOPD
I just burned through the second season on DVD and have to disagree with most of the complaints. The mystery was engaging and I thought the villain was more plausible than the first season (or at least had more clues dropped throughout the season). The mood swings and personality shifts of some characters reminded me all too much of high school, so they seemed very believable to me and not a result of poor writing.
This is one of the best parent/child relationships on TV, not sure what complaints you could have about that.
My only real complaint with the season was the concessions that had to be made for budgetary reasons.
This is one of the best parent/child relationships on TV, not sure what complaints you could have about that.
My only real complaint with the season was the concessions that had to be made for budgetary reasons.
Now, my opinion might be a bit different had I watched the actual airings, as opposed to the DVD - but I plan on definitely tuning in to those veiwings of the show from now on. Then maybe I'll see if I think differently of it.
My wife & I both found the show to be very addictive, and it was nice to be able to watch more than one epsiode in a row, so I think it'll be a bit rougher being confined to week to week viewing. For now, regardless, I'll just be jonesing for my VM fix for the next month.
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From what I have read, even Kristen Bell had hard time following the plotline in season 2 but I gather there will be a few different mysteries in season 3 and they will each conclude in four or five episodes.
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The worst part about last season was Wallace's girlfriend. It seemed like she hated Veronica and then partway through the season she shifted gears and wanted to be her friend. Overall she just felt unnecessary.
I still really enjoyed Season Two, but I'm glad to hear the main story arc won't be as convoluted as the last. The long breaks between episodes made it hard to remember all the plot points even with the "Previously on..." mini-recaps.
I still really enjoyed Season Two, but I'm glad to hear the main story arc won't be as convoluted as the last. The long breaks between episodes made it hard to remember all the plot points even with the "Previously on..." mini-recaps.
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Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet
I enjoyed the second season as much as the first. To the people saying the resolution of the mystery was a "cop-out": can you explain that? Just because it wasn't who you thought it was doesn't mean it was a cop-out.
Yeah, it was a surprise, but "surprise" does not automatically equal "good" and this resolution was one of the most disappointing of any show of the last TV season.
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Originally Posted by kenny79
Is Veronica attending Hurst or Stanford in season 3?
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Originally Posted by dhmac
I was the who said the resolution was a "cop-out" but I guess I was just being too "nice" - better and more accurate descriptions of the resolution would be "idiotic", "stupid", "absurd", "ridiculous".
Yeah, it was a surprise, but "surprise" does not automatically equal "good" and this resolution was one of the most disappointing of any show of the last TV season.
Yeah, it was a surprise, but "surprise" does not automatically equal "good" and this resolution was one of the most disappointing of any show of the last TV season.
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I loved season two and, while I (like everyone else) have a few minor nit-pick-y concens, the only thing that REALLY bugs me is in the first episode
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Originally Posted by wergo
I loved season two and, while I (like everyone else) have a few minor nit-pick-y concens, the only thing that REALLY bugs me is in the first episode
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I'm on vacation in San Diego. Yesterday, I was walking back to my friend's apartment from Balboa Park, and saw a bunch of trucks with tv equipment and such. I asked a security guard what they were filming, and he said "Veronica Mars." We saw Kristen Bell leaving her trailer across the street. We walked over to the 7-11 where they were shooting the scene. Watched for a bit, it was pretty neat. I only got 1 decent picture. After I started taking them some jerk came over yelling and demanding that I put the camera away.
In the scene, she just walks into the 7-11, and talks to the person inside for a few minutes. When she walked back out she was texting someone on her phone.
In the scene, she just walks into the 7-11, and talks to the person inside for a few minutes. When she walked back out she was texting someone on her phone.
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I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but I just noticed it - the last episode of S1 is titled, "Leave it to Beaver." Then the last episode of S2...well, you know. Probably just a strange coincidence, but kind of made me think maybe they knew what was going to happen at the end of S2 already at the end of S1?
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Originally Posted by aktick
Probably just a strange coincidence, but kind of made me think maybe they knew what was going to happen at the end of S2 already at the end of S1?
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I got into VM when S1 came out on DVD. I did not watch it S2 when it was on TV, but i had read complaints about it. However after watching S2 on DVD I thought it was a excellent season. S1 is some of the best TV out there, but S2 is up there as well. I guess it works better when you can watch it in large chunks of episodes instead of one episode a week.