When Eko confesses to Henry, he mentions that the two men he killed were dragging him into the jungle when he did so. So it's very likely they were taking him because they thought he was "good" at the time.

The process of determining who's "good" and who's "bad" seems inexact, probably just based on impressions of people and what is known of their background. Remember that Henry said that Goodwin tried to persuade the Others that Ana Lucia was "good," just "misunderstood."

Yep, I remember them saying something along those lines at the beginning of this season. Maybe it'll be the last thing revealed this season - they'll show "how" they crashed, but won't show who was responsible.

They better show why they crashed. They mentioned early on that this would be explained at seasons end. It looks and seems that theyre trying to wiggle out of that and hope that we forget.

Rumored spoiler for the Season Finale:

If that happens... my initial thought is "how totally lame."

Lost is the cover story this week in Entertainment Weekly. There's lots of spoilers there. They also mention the fact that the ratings have dipped quite a bit and they don't quite no how much to divulge over time. They better start fast or it won't make it to season 4.

SPOILERS ABOUT NEXT WEEKS EPISODES:

I think it is a 50-50 split between revealing the plot and the lack of consistent showings.

That doesn't make any sense. MOST of the tailees were taken (only a couple were children, most were adults). They said they take the good people. Hence, most of the tailees would have been good people. On the other hand, the only people taken from the fuselage survivors were Walt and Claire.

As for the clone theory, I think it is a huge red herring. The book clue is too obvious, and also last year (before season 1 had finished airing) there was one of those fake script pages on the official ABC site about Jack being chased/attacked by someone who ended up being someone who looked just like him. I think all of those little hidden things on the ABC Lost site last year were deliberate red herrings.

Heres another supposed spoiler I read. It's a slightly different take on what I posted earlier but if true would be rather strange.

I am a few days late to this thread, but SonOfAStu, this is a really harsh way to address another poster and borders on a personal attack which is against forum rules. If you read a post you regard as spoilerish and it is not spoiler tagged, please report it instead of making an argumentative post like this.

Thanks.

Could be. The names are interesting. Candle and Wick. A wick is part of a candle. Wickman could be the clone from Candle.

Also, strange that both videos are copyright 1980 but the Swan one was shot on film while the Pearl one was shot on videotape. Cutbacks maybe?

They both still seemed to have their glass eye though...

The EW article is an interesting read. A couple of little sayings here and there that could provide an idea of where this is going. I do believe, though. that we will see a drastic change in the scheduling next season.

Hopefully they don't both end up at the Flame station! It could be explosive!!

I don't want to know any spoilers plot-wise...but does the article mention that they are leaning towards doing something like 3 blocks of 7 or 8 shows? That's how I'd like it, even if it meant a mid-October (or even early November) start.

I think the bank tube must go to the "new" Fantasy Island.

http://img.timeinc.net/ew/features/9...tasyisland.jpg

Did anyone else watch that show? They had an elaborate bank tube system to reach Mr. Roarke on the island.

So do we think they have this all planned out or are they writing it as they go along?

I'm sure it's a little of both.

I read a few articles where they have said they know the endgame and several major plot points, but yes, to some degree, they are making it up as they go along.

An article I read said they were considering either running the series straight through, a la 24, or doing two blocks of episodes, one in fall, one in spring.

Either would be fine with me. I don't know why ABC is so worried that it's going to hurt their ratings...hell, the way this season was aired is probably a main reason for the decline in viewership. I'd probably prefer 2 blocks.

I'm loving season two (more so than season one), but if it ends that way I'm out right then and there.

This might have been brought up before, but:

Anyone else feel like this Candle/Wick dude is somewhere on the island? Like in another station? Like the station the bank tube leads to?

Perhaps the "incident" involved him losing his arm? Could it be the Swan blast doors chopped it off somehow? If Candle Wick was ever a part of the experiment in the Swan it could be him who drew the map.

I like your idea concerning Candle / Wickman and the blast door.

As for where he is, as cliche as it sounds,

Interesting that in EW's article they say that this show is about Redemption and that they will be able to do stories about Redemption for years to come.
Yes, but will anyone be left who cares in a few years? Are they trying to make this the new Touched by an Angel?

:lol:

I read that line to my wife this weekend and she said "ummm... no."

I have to agree. I do NOT want this show to go on for years and years with stories about the characters and their lives and "redemptions". That is going to get old fast, and I think the ratings will sink like a stone.

Ultimately, what I want (and what I think most viewers want too?) is for the story/mystery to slowly be solved over the course of another 2-3 years. And then end the damn thing.

I don't want this to turn into ER with a whole new cast of characters. I don't want it to run so long that the mythology impodes upon itself (ala X-Files). Unfortunately, it sounds like the creative team is planning for this to run for a long time, with no real endgame in sight. (grumble)

I haven't read the most recent EW article, but I remember on the extras for the Season 1 DVD the writers/creators said that they had planned the first 5 seasons before starting the show, at least in the sense of general arcs and plotlines.

Also, I was rewatching the episode with my brother-in-law who hadn't seen it yet. When it got to the cliff, he didn't see the mark in the ground at first. I rewound it and showed the scene again, pointing to what I thought was a "?". My wife disagreed, saying that it wasn't a "?", at least not until the plane fell on it. She thought it was an "O", possibly a symbol for Pearl Station.

It made me wonder, maybe all the stations have a marker that can only be seen from overhead. It would explain how the dropped food arrived where it did.

So, just to poll people, was it an "?", or a "O" ?

Looked like a "?" to me.

You know you'd be there for the third season.

in the video - what is the dome-like structure that he is standing behind? could this entire "island" be inside some sort of Bio-Dome - and, if so, when does Pauly Shore appear?

Hey there Hurley, buuuuuuuuuuudy

It didn't much look like a ?. If we believe that the blast door map is accurate, then they weren't at the ?; they were east of it.

It seems clear to me that it is just a circle marked on the ground to aid finding the location from the air. I think the mapmaker drew a question mark because he knew or assumed something was at that location, but was unsure of what it was. Perhapt the producers made the symbol vaguely question markish, but I'm pretty sure it is just a circle.

http://lost-media.com/modules/copper...ionmark334.jpg

Looks like a circle to me.

it's a question mark, if you factor in the hatch door as the dot. remember, it is right under the plane's tail.

I vote for ?

How do we know they were east of it?

Just like I said - "if the blast door map is accurate".

its obvious they intended it to be a question mark since the title of the show itself is "?" and the mark on the map for the location is also "?".

Really? The clearing in the forest may have been a circle, but the dirt on the ground (which didn't Ecko say was salted?) was clearly a question mark.

If I factor in the hatch door, I see a circle with a dot near it.

I can see a sort of question mark in the photo if I try hard enough, but if you didn't know what to look for, the only thing you could see would be a circle.

honestly, it looks like it was a circle before, but vegetation has grown over part of it (bottom left). thus, a question mark