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Bronkster 04-20-06 11:50 PM

Even though it was a total rip-off of Saw, it was still a reasonably good episode (epecially when compared to last week's stinkeroo!!).

Zien 04-21-06 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by edytwinky
I hate to complain about Smallville cause I do love the show but it sucks that we have to wait til the final five minutes to get any storyline movement.

Yeah, I agree. But I guess it's an attempt at some forward motion, while Lost this season has had little to none for five or six episodes, and then some great stuff for two episodes or so...maybe good network television is going the way of little development per ep in hopes of a longer run....or not.

DeputyDave 04-21-06 12:46 AM

Hmmm... the WB writers must have recieved their Netflix order. Let me guess the top three in their queue... Saw, The Cell, and (because I DVR'd the first two minutes of Supernatural afterwards) Near Dark.

Wouldn't the elevator slamming into Clark be almost the same as hitting the ground?

Anyway, I still tune in for the microscopic advances in the Superman myth story line. "Truth, Justice, and the American way" gave me a slight nerdy chill.

Bronkster 04-21-06 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by DeputyDave
Wouldn't the elevator slamming into Clark be almost the same as hitting the ground?

I wonder if they do this in a comic book sense, ignoring the actual (geek/nerd) physics involved. By the same token, the shot now used in the opening credits where Clark grabs the kid out of the path of the meteor is at such acceleration that pieces of the kid would still be left where he was standing. I'm thinkin' it's for effect, like a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

Count Dooku 04-21-06 01:33 AM

The point of the scene is that Clark uses his superpowers to save his mother and Lionel Luthor, which leads to Clark confronting Lionel about knowing "the secret".

Why would they bother spending the time and money to stage and film the complicated action and special effects, which would be required to show Clark leaping up and catching the elevator car and stopping it in freefall.

LorenzoL 04-21-06 03:33 AM

Even though it was a total ripoff of Saw, this episode was actually much better than the past few that have aired.
Keep my hopes up that the last few episodes of the season will be good.

GuessWho 04-21-06 06:02 AM

I liked it--and have no intention of ever seeing Saw

Deadpool 04-21-06 07:36 AM

I thought it was a decent show. I don't have my hopes up for next week...but the last 2 episodes should be great.

ytrez 04-21-06 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by Patman
Too bad they neglect the G's that Lionel and Martha would have experienced (i.e. slammed into the floor of their cage) when Clark stopped it dead in its tracks.

Yeah, I was thinking, perfect opportunity to remember how to fly. Get up there and gently bring them down. How was hitting Clark's hand's supposed to be any differnt then hitting the floor? This was definitely the cut rate episode with minimal "super" effects.

Red Dog 04-21-06 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by Bronkster
I wonder if they do this in a comic book sense, ignoring the actual (geek/nerd) physics involved. By the same token, the shot now used in the opening credits where Clark grabs the kid out of the path of the meteor is at such acceleration that pieces of the kid would still be left where he was standing. I'm thinkin' it's for effect, like a Bugs Bunny cartoon.


That's the way I looked at it even though I wondered about his hands going through the floor of the elevator. It's a friggin comic book character - I'm not going to nitpick the physics involved.

marty888 04-21-06 08:28 AM

Rip-off or not, this was the first episode in a while that I actually enjoyed. Let's hope the final ones keep it up.

Palaver 04-21-06 08:45 AM

I enjoyed this one as well. I thought it gave an intersting insight to Lionel (who is one of the more interesting charcters in the show.) The conversation at the end was way overdue. And, as was stated earlier, less Lana always gets a thumbs up from me. Personal taste, I guess.

Patman 04-21-06 10:19 AM

I did have to laugh at Lana's regrets over mushing faces with Lex.

resinrats 04-21-06 10:59 AM

So how did Lex know that Clark appeared across town in a few seconds? He just knew that Clark left the room he was in. Who's to say Clark didn't just step out for some fresh air.

While I like Smallville, it is really hard to believe that when Clark becomes Superman, he won't know immediatly who it is from all he suspicions (not even including that Superman's face is not covered & Lex has been around Clark for 5+ years).

whotony 04-21-06 01:08 PM

sure seemed like lionel had something or someone in his head at the end.

he appeared to be drawing something, didnt look lke he was writing.

Crashnburn 04-21-06 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by invisiblegt
So...

They've sunk to ripping off "Saw" now?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, because Saw is a totally original idea. Don't get me wrong I like Saw (the first one more than the second) but let's not go nuts thinking that they created something new. I normally wouldn't of said anything but this thread is filled with comments that break down to "OMG, they're ripping off Saw!" The concept of villians putting heroes/protagonists through death traps has been a staple of comic books for many many many years now. Long before Saw was ever conceived. And given that Smallville is, of course, based off one of the most popular comic book characters ever I don't see where the writers have done anything wrong.

GuessWho 04-21-06 02:02 PM

Maybe Jor-El is still inside Lionel

Terrell 04-21-06 02:10 PM

The main thing I'm sick of is the damn "freak of the weak" bs. You would think after 5 seasons we wouldn't have to watch anymore of that crap. Unfortunately, it looks like we can look forward to more "freak of the week" next episode.

riley_dude 04-21-06 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by GuessWho
Maybe Jor-El is still inside Lionel

That's what I was thinking. He did call him son at some point.

By the way, did you know Kristin Kruek had a myspace account?

http://www.myspace.com/kristinlaurakreuk

whotony 04-21-06 06:12 PM

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=21800807

Chauzer 04-23-06 02:42 AM

wow, smallville writers can't come up w/ anything orignal anymore.. saw..

Chauzer 04-23-06 02:51 AM


Originally Posted by riley_dude
That's what I was thinking. He did call him son at some point.

By the way, did you know Kristin Kruek had a myspace account?

http://www.myspace.com/kristinlaurakreuk

whoa

edytwinky 04-23-06 01:08 PM

I really hope we don't have to deal with a bunch of Lana/Lex drama similar to the Lana/Clark stuff.

DRG 04-23-06 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Crashnburn
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, because Saw is a totally original idea. Don't get me wrong I like Saw (the first one more than the second) but let's not go nuts thinking that they created something new. I normally wouldn't of said anything but this thread is filled with comments that break down to "OMG, they're ripping off Saw!" The concept of villians putting heroes/protagonists through death traps has been a staple of comic books for many many many years now. Long before Saw was ever conceived. And given that Smallville is, of course, based off one of the most popular comic book characters ever I don't see where the writers have done anything wrong.

But with the ominous character on the screen, the series of lose-lose choices, and so on it was a lot more blatant of a ripoff than simply co-opting the death trap theme. Perhaps Saw was not the first thing to use these elements, but it was clearly the inspiration for the Smallville writers when they made this episode. Sort of how Fast & the Furious was not the first movie to feature car racing, but that one season 3 racing episode was still obviously made as a response to that film.

collven 04-24-06 03:00 AM


Originally Posted by DRG
But with the ominous character on the screen, the series of lose-lose choices, and so on it was a lot more blatant of a ripoff than simply co-opting the death trap theme. Perhaps Saw was not the first thing to use these elements, but it was clearly the inspiration for the Smallville writers when they made this episode. Sort of how Fast & the Furious was not the first movie to feature car racing, but that one season 3 racing episode was still obviously made as a response to that film.


Not to mention the scary, disguised voice saying "we're going to play a game".


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