holy hell, i forgot about this completely. was this ever revisited???

not yet, though there were photos floating around showing

regarding quarantine and fooddrop:
the people in the hatch aren't the ones quarantined (remember the word "quarantine" was on the inside of the door indicating that the other side, the outside, is quarantined).

so, lockdown hatch to keep the inside of the hatch safe from, say, "something" (gas? radiation? electromagnetic waves? t-rex?) to keep quarantined subjects from getting at food/supplies, then food/supply drop.

that's not a spoiler. we saw that scene in the episode about the tailies.

There is something still bothering me about the timing of the lockdown. I think it reasonable to assume that the countdown heard on the speakers and the subsequent lockdown were meant to coincide with the supply drop. I think it is also reasonable to believe that the lockdown was meant to keep the inhabitants of the hatch inside the innermost living area during the drop. But why? The hatch inhabitants aren't supposed to go outside of the hatch, since as pointed out above, the outside world is what is quarantined. Why then lock them inside? Unless it was to either lock them in, or out, of that inner living area while the supplies were delivered somehow to them. (I say out since it seems odd to lock them out of the area where the computer is). If that is the case, the timing is way off. It was way too short of a time. It then seems as 'Henry' had to do something to release the lockdown, despite his claims to the contrary. Even still, it seems strange.

Because it's a running theme on the show.
It's all about character redemption and wiping the slate clean.

I'm still not convinced "Henry" is Dharma/Other. I do think that he knew Henry Gale and probably has a ...mysterious past... though.

I kinda like the theory that fake Henry and real Henry were on their way to relieve Desmond in the hatch. Real Henry died in the crashing of their balloon and on his way to the hatch fake Henry was caught in Rousseau's trap. Fake Henry, not knowing who the hell Rousseau et al were, lied about who he was and what he was doing there out of fear for his life. He may not have known about the survivors at all. After being beaten he kept his lie up for fear that if these people knew he was lying he'd be killed anyway. So now he's beat and we'll see what happens.

Maybe the lockdown permits the Dharma people to get the dropped food into the hatch without Desmond or anyone else knowing, perserving the thought that he is alone on the island, even though the Dharma folks are there.

Do we know if Desmond ever went outside before he met the flight 815 survivors? I don't remember. He never mentioned any drops or anything.(not that he said much before he ran for the hills)

That's ridiculous. What would stop him from just standing outside the main living space before the lockdown?

There hasn't been one intelligent theory submitted yet for what is going on with the lockdown. Sorry, but it's true.

We're all waiting for your thesis, Doctor PhD.

Ouch

I'm pretty sure that he mentioned when there were two of them it allowed one to leave. But with the quarrantine on the hatch, I could be remembering wrong.

I'm pretty sure how Desmond got to be in the hatch is his predecessor went out and got him inside once he crashed his boat on the island.

Didn't see this posted but the canadian trailer is up on youtube. possibly spoilerific!

That web page you listed might contain spoilers. I haven't looked. But the URL hidden under that spoiler tag is not "spoilerific".

LOL i ment the trailer itself oops

How does he get in to push the button then?

The button is outside of the area that gets locked down. That is, if only the main living area is being locked down, as is the current speculation.

I don't have one. And I sure as hell won't be making something up without using a little bit of common sense either.

I'll make an futile attempt.

At first I thought the noise was a broken message telling the 2 bunker dwellers to place themselves into the lockdown area in preps to receive food delivery by the "Staff" on the island. Then I checked myself and said that's bullshit because the entire outside of the bunker on the island is in QUARANTINE and absolutely no contact with anything that has touched the outside is allowed without DECON. And we didn't see any DECON station so that blows the food delivery speculation from outside staffers.

My final thought on the matter is that the writers will hope we forget about all of it like Desmond, Walt, and the Chipmunk.

Best part of this and the previous episode is that Evangeline Lilly is smoking hot in these last 2 eps. Major appearance change going on for her and it's good.

perhaps we should wonder why the living area would need to be locked down from the rest of the areas. also, the blast walls were coming down before the countdown ran out of time. that last time that jack/locke tempted fate with the numbers, Locke was in the living area with "Henry" and the walls did not come down at that point.

I do believe that the walls come down to coincide with the delivery of fresh supplies. This would seem to keep people from knowing who/what was dropping off the goods. However, it doesn't explain how all of the other survivors that were topside did not see/hear anything when the delivery was made.

certainly the sound of a large object coming down through the trees would make a noise.

also, are we to assume that Desmond was responsible for the map on the door? if so, he knew the locations of ALL of the stations, and tried to find where they all led to (the big ? in the center). my guess is that whatever lies at the center is the central "brain" of the operation. this would likely be where the "Others" are centered out of.

Yeah, but if the main living area is the in the center and there are multiple hallways being locked down, they could be in the computer room but locked in, unable to get to the food. The best chance to see the food drop would be in the hallway, but then they can't reach the computer room. It's possible that just being outside of the main living area doesn't mean they can reach every other location. Like the image below, if the red bars represent the blast doors.



It's also very possible the hatch isn't laid out like this and I don't know what I'm talking about

My first thought when watching the episode was that the magnet kicked on and pulled the food drop close by. The blast shields were to protect them from the strong magnetic power. Also, the "fake" window had a shield, why? This also could mean that the food was not delivered by plane otherwise it would be pulled in too.

The food drop almost has to be for the occupants of the hatch. It's obvious. Desmond was fully stocked with it. So, why does it say quarrantine? It could be a rouse incase non-Dharma people are brought into the hatch. Possibly ala the "escape hatch" in the medical center.
Or perhaps Desmond said the hell with it, I need food.

One of the map pics had something to the effect of impossible to reach this area within 108 minutes. So, Desmond or whoever did the map, knew that they still had to be back within 108 to do the button or else something happens.
Also, how long was the shield down, about 5-10 minutes? That doesn't seem to be long enough to write all of that down in one try.

A passage on the "map" says "Activity minimal during lockdown and restocking procedures". I think we should agree that for whatever reason the doors come down when the food is dropped. Now the question becomes why.

Pretty sure the hatch occupants were able to leave but I don't think Desmond did - at least not since the plane crash. Wouldn't someone have seen him or he the survivors? So why then would he not leave? Was it for fear of the "disease"? He was still injecting himself when we met him.

We are assuming the Others were originally Dharma people right? So maybe the "incident" was whatever caused them to split off from the original project and terrorize and kidnap people. Maybe they OD'ed on some kind of serum or something and it made them go all rogue scientist. That would explain the disease Danielle talks about and the quarantine warning on the hatch door. Maybe it's there to protect the hatch occupants from the Others moreso than some disease.

Also, I am beginning to believe that Swan is set up to be just a rec room of sorts and that if any psychological studies are/were being done they were being done here, with the occupants being observed via hidden cameras. The button being nothing but a Pavlovian trick. Maybe that's why Dharma sent the Gales, real and fake - to get the survivors out of their test tube.

Or maybe, just maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Sounds good to me.

Up until the connection was made to the food drop, I thought perhaps that we were dealing with fake Gale as an Other and that the other Others dropped the blast doors when the balloon was discovered. Why? To give fake Gale some sort of opportunity to win over one or more person among the Survivors. They couldn't be certain of just what would happen, but they would know that Gale was there and that his cover story would be believed once the party checking the balloon out came back. At minimum, the dropping of the doors would lead to some sort of chaos he could hopefully improvise with to make a bond of some sort.