Louis Lombardi (24's Edgar Stiles) interview [CONTAINS SPOILERS]
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Louis Lombardi (24's Edgar Stiles) interview [CONTAINS SPOILERS]
I found this amusing.
from TheStar.com:
By the way, here is the USA Today article he's referring to.
from TheStar.com:
Some characters can't get a break
Was it a mistake for 24 to kill off Edgar?
Mar. 13, 2006. 01:00 AM
VINAY MENON
At first, Louis Lombardi was okay with it.
I mean, when you're an actor on 24 (Fox, 9 tonight; Global, 10 p.m.), there's no such thing as job security. It doesn't matter if you play a civilian, a terrorist, a government agent, a former president, or even the wife of Jack Bauer — death is a constant possibility.
Lombardi learned this in December, when producers told him the clock was ticking on his popular character, Edgar Stiles. Sure enough, poor Edgar crumpled to the ground after inhaling poison gas during last week's shocking episode.
Immediately after, fans flocked to discussion forums and online shrines to commiserate. Edgar? Dead? The big lug ... killed? No!
Lombardi was bombarded with email. Everybody was asking the same question: why did they have to kill Edgar?
As Lombardi opened letter after letter, as he lurked on message boards gauging reaction, he started to wonder if producers had made a mistake.
The wonder turned to something else after Lombardi read a story in USA Today, in which executive producer Howard Gordon acknowledged that Edgar became more vulnerable as his appeal grew, a statement that baffled the 38-year-old actor.
"I thought his comments were very ignorant," Lombardi tells me, his voice crackling with un-Edgar passion. "I thought the comments were annoying. When I read that article I said, `This guy makes no sense.' My character was loved more than any character on that show and you kill him?
"I told my fiancée, `Read this comment. It's so arrogant and annoying.' What was he saying? It almost offended me — I got to be honest with you — as an actor and a person because it didn't make any sense.
"At first I was like, `Well, you guys do what you have to do. Whatever's good for the show.' But when I'm reading his comments, it's like I almost want to tell him, `You're a moron. You're talking like an idiot.'"
Here's the thing: "I took those comments as a personal attack toward Louis and not Edgar," adds Lombardi. "That's the way I feel as of now."
As you might imagine, he hasn't discussed this with Gordon, though he has only praise for the way he was treated during his run: "The show has been nothing but fabulous to me."
It's that damn three-letter question he can't escape.
"I don't know why they did it," he says. "And, to be honest, I think it's a silly move. I think it's a move that they will probably regret. The character was so loved it's not even funny."
So CTU's stout intelligence analyst — he of the Brooklyn accent and unrequited love for dour Chloe — is no more. Gone, as it were, in the office that consumed his life.
Edgar cracked codes, exposed moles, foiled terrorist plots and even lost his mother during a nuclear meltdown, before his demise at 6:59 p.m. on this Very Bad Day. "Oh my God," whispered Jack (Kiefer Sutherland), from behind the protective glass of CTU's sealed situation room as Edgar wandered into sight at precisely that moment, exposing himself to the toxic gas.
Edgar coughed, stumbled and collapsed. Jack bowed his head. Chloe's (Mary Lynn Rajskub) eyes moistened with tears. And viewers gasped as Edgar's lifeless body segued into a rare silent clock.
The short, unhappy life of Edgar Stiles had come to an end.
"I didn't want to go out like such a depressed soul and die with such negativity," says Lombardi.
"The character never had any bright spots in his life. The character never had any happiness. He didn't get the girl, he couldn't save his mother and he gets gassed."
For some reason, we both start laughing.
Looking ahead, Lombardi says he would be eager to reprise his guest role as an FBI agent on The Sopranos, which began its final season last night.
He's also getting ready to pitch a single-camera comedy about small-time hustlers in New York, which he will write and produce.
"I'd much rather be on my own show," says Lombardi. "You have more creative say in what goes on."
Yes. And who gets to live.
Was it a mistake for 24 to kill off Edgar?
Mar. 13, 2006. 01:00 AM
VINAY MENON
At first, Louis Lombardi was okay with it.
I mean, when you're an actor on 24 (Fox, 9 tonight; Global, 10 p.m.), there's no such thing as job security. It doesn't matter if you play a civilian, a terrorist, a government agent, a former president, or even the wife of Jack Bauer — death is a constant possibility.
Lombardi learned this in December, when producers told him the clock was ticking on his popular character, Edgar Stiles. Sure enough, poor Edgar crumpled to the ground after inhaling poison gas during last week's shocking episode.
Immediately after, fans flocked to discussion forums and online shrines to commiserate. Edgar? Dead? The big lug ... killed? No!
Lombardi was bombarded with email. Everybody was asking the same question: why did they have to kill Edgar?
As Lombardi opened letter after letter, as he lurked on message boards gauging reaction, he started to wonder if producers had made a mistake.
The wonder turned to something else after Lombardi read a story in USA Today, in which executive producer Howard Gordon acknowledged that Edgar became more vulnerable as his appeal grew, a statement that baffled the 38-year-old actor.
"I thought his comments were very ignorant," Lombardi tells me, his voice crackling with un-Edgar passion. "I thought the comments were annoying. When I read that article I said, `This guy makes no sense.' My character was loved more than any character on that show and you kill him?
"I told my fiancée, `Read this comment. It's so arrogant and annoying.' What was he saying? It almost offended me — I got to be honest with you — as an actor and a person because it didn't make any sense.
"At first I was like, `Well, you guys do what you have to do. Whatever's good for the show.' But when I'm reading his comments, it's like I almost want to tell him, `You're a moron. You're talking like an idiot.'"
Here's the thing: "I took those comments as a personal attack toward Louis and not Edgar," adds Lombardi. "That's the way I feel as of now."
As you might imagine, he hasn't discussed this with Gordon, though he has only praise for the way he was treated during his run: "The show has been nothing but fabulous to me."
It's that damn three-letter question he can't escape.
"I don't know why they did it," he says. "And, to be honest, I think it's a silly move. I think it's a move that they will probably regret. The character was so loved it's not even funny."
So CTU's stout intelligence analyst — he of the Brooklyn accent and unrequited love for dour Chloe — is no more. Gone, as it were, in the office that consumed his life.
Edgar cracked codes, exposed moles, foiled terrorist plots and even lost his mother during a nuclear meltdown, before his demise at 6:59 p.m. on this Very Bad Day. "Oh my God," whispered Jack (Kiefer Sutherland), from behind the protective glass of CTU's sealed situation room as Edgar wandered into sight at precisely that moment, exposing himself to the toxic gas.
Edgar coughed, stumbled and collapsed. Jack bowed his head. Chloe's (Mary Lynn Rajskub) eyes moistened with tears. And viewers gasped as Edgar's lifeless body segued into a rare silent clock.
The short, unhappy life of Edgar Stiles had come to an end.
"I didn't want to go out like such a depressed soul and die with such negativity," says Lombardi.
"The character never had any bright spots in his life. The character never had any happiness. He didn't get the girl, he couldn't save his mother and he gets gassed."
For some reason, we both start laughing.
Looking ahead, Lombardi says he would be eager to reprise his guest role as an FBI agent on The Sopranos, which began its final season last night.
He's also getting ready to pitch a single-camera comedy about small-time hustlers in New York, which he will write and produce.
"I'd much rather be on my own show," says Lombardi. "You have more creative say in what goes on."
Yes. And who gets to live.
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Originally Posted by esc24
What the hell is he talking about, "loved more than any character on that show". Everyone i know hated his character. The only character worse than him is Chloe.
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re: this past Monday's show. if you ain't seen it, don't read this.
However, that "so loved" comment is far from true. Maybe in another season or two [a la Chloe], but not now.
Oh, and "The character never had any bright spots in his life. The character never had any happiness." Life's like that sometimes, skippy. It sucks, but it's true.
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However, that "so loved" comment is far from true. Maybe in another season or two [a la Chloe], but not now.
Oh, and "The character never had any bright spots in his life. The character never had any happiness." Life's like that sometimes, skippy. It sucks, but it's true.
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From the USA Today article:
Executive producer Howard Gordon says he has no regrets.
"It was a tough decision but really the right decision," since producers needed to underscore the terrorist threat. "To keep it honest with the audience that anything is possible, sometimes people have to leave."
Gordon acknowledged that in the 24 universe, Edgar became more vulnerable as his appeal grew. As he told Lombardi just before the episode was filmed in December: "The good news is you're one of the best characters on the show; the bad news is that, unfortunately, we have to kill you now."
"I hope people will understand, I hope they'll be affected by the loss and I hope they'll miss him," Gordon says. "Because if they do, we'll have all done our jobs."
Executive producer Howard Gordon says he has no regrets.
"It was a tough decision but really the right decision," since producers needed to underscore the terrorist threat. "To keep it honest with the audience that anything is possible, sometimes people have to leave."
Gordon acknowledged that in the 24 universe, Edgar became more vulnerable as his appeal grew. As he told Lombardi just before the episode was filmed in December: "The good news is you're one of the best characters on the show; the bad news is that, unfortunately, we have to kill you now."
"I hope people will understand, I hope they'll be affected by the loss and I hope they'll miss him," Gordon says. "Because if they do, we'll have all done our jobs."
From the Louis Lombardi coments posted above:
"At first I was like, `Well, you guys do what you have to do. Whatever's good for the show.' But when I'm reading his comments, it's like I almost want to tell him, `You're a moron. You're talking like an idiot.'"
Here's the thing: "I took those comments as a personal attack toward Louis and not Edgar," adds Lombardi. "That's the way I feel as of now."
"At first I was like, `Well, you guys do what you have to do. Whatever's good for the show.' But when I'm reading his comments, it's like I almost want to tell him, `You're a moron. You're talking like an idiot.'"
Here's the thing: "I took those comments as a personal attack toward Louis and not Edgar," adds Lombardi. "That's the way I feel as of now."
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Originally Posted by esc24
What the hell is he talking about, "loved more than any character on that show". Everyone i know hated his character. The only character worse than him is Chloe.
booooooooooooooooooo. Chloe is my favorite on the show. and I loved all the bitchiness between Chloe and Edgar.
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I'm not exactly sure where Lombardi is coming from on this. It doesn't jive at all with his demeanor in the behind-the-scenes clip on the official 24 website where he seems perfectly calm about Edgar's passing(although he did acknowledge it was a very sad moment).
As far as the "other" death is concerned, that's absurd that he was knocked off because the writers couldn't come up with anything else to do with him. Gee, how about he avenge the death of a loved one and THEN get killed?
As far as the "other" death is concerned, that's absurd that he was knocked off because the writers couldn't come up with anything else to do with him. Gee, how about he avenge the death of a loved one and THEN get killed?
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Originally Posted by Doughboy
how about he avenge the death of a loved one and THEN get killed?
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Originally Posted by garmonbozia
for once it would be interesting to have some evil mastermind escape elude capture or death for a few seasons.
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Nina was a mole, Mandy was/is a mercenary. Neither could be considered a criminal mastermind. I don't remember Max, though.
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"The character never had any bright spots in his life. The character never had any happiness. He didn't get the girl, he couldn't save his mother and he gets gassed."
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Originally Posted by Doughboy
You mean like Nina? Or Mandy? Or even that Max dude on the boat, although we still don't know for sure what happened to him?
Max was caught. The first episode of season 3, when Palmer is rehearsing for the debate (when anticipating a question from Keeler that the attempt on his life has weakened him as a leader) Wayne mentions that he should say it was his administration who later caught the man behind the attempted assassination (meaning Max).
and Max was in a whole 2 episodes......quite a major player!
Nina was a mercenary. she never masterminded a single damn thing.
same with Mandy.
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Originally Posted by Decker
Nina was a mole, Mandy was/is a mercenary. Neither could be considered a criminal mastermind. I don't remember Max, though.
that's because Max was in a whole 2 episodes and had like 3 speaking lines. He ended up being the person who was above Peter Kingsley in the whole season 2 plot.
I agree, both Nina and Mandy just did things for money. They never planned anything on their own.
and Mandy was in what? 5 episodes total over a span of 4 seasons? (only appearing in three of them).
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Can people tell me why they liked Edgar and/or Chloe? I just think when you have an intense, taut show dealing with terrorism, it's dumb to cut to CTU and see people arguing about petty things.
It just always bothered me that we would see Jack trying to track down a nuclear bomb or see him chasing after a terrorist who has nerve gas or seeing the President having to make a huge, urgent decision...only to cut to CTU with Edgar getting upset at Chloe that she used a tone of voice that he deemed unacceptable and hurtful.
I just found that whole dynamic to be ridiculous, and I would laugh at those scenes. And when I'm watching a action/drama about terrorism, the last thing I want to be do is laugh. For jokes, I'll turn on a sitcom.
It just always bothered me that we would see Jack trying to track down a nuclear bomb or see him chasing after a terrorist who has nerve gas or seeing the President having to make a huge, urgent decision...only to cut to CTU with Edgar getting upset at Chloe that she used a tone of voice that he deemed unacceptable and hurtful.
I just found that whole dynamic to be ridiculous, and I would laugh at those scenes. And when I'm watching a action/drama about terrorism, the last thing I want to be do is laugh. For jokes, I'll turn on a sitcom.
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Originally Posted by garmonbozia
Max was caught. The first episode of season 3, when Palmer is rehearsing for the debate (when anticipating a question from Keeler that the attempt on his life has weakened him as a leader) Wayne mentions that he should say it was his administration who later caught the man behind the attempted assassination (meaning Max).
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Originally Posted by Doughboy
We don't know for sure they caught Max.
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"The character never had any bright spots in his life. The character never had any happiness. He didn't get the girl, he couldn't save his mother and he gets gassed."
Agreed. Chloe could have at least acknowledged edgar's love for her or something..the guy deserved some sort of nugget.
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Edgar is loved? He was one of the two worst "good guy" characters introduced last year, the other being Driscoll. Yet with the show replacing 99.99% of CTU every season, they chose to bring Edgar back?
If there's any death people are pissed off about, it's Tony -- it sure as hell isn't Edgar.
If there's any death people are pissed off about, it's Tony -- it sure as hell isn't Edgar.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Salty
Would a spoiler warning in the thread title be asking too fucking much?
Anyway, I thought Lombardi's "My character was loved more than any character on that show" quote was the best part of the article. In the USA Today piece, he mentions that when he goes out, everyone buys him drinks and dinner and gives him hugs. I suppose that could really skew one's perspective into thinking that you're the most loved character ever. Kiefer must be laughing his ass off.
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Originally Posted by areacode212
I considered it, but figured that with both "Louis Lombardi (24's Edgar Stiles) is PISSED~!" and "(spoilers for last week's 24)" in the thread title,
most people with a brain would put 2 & 2 together just from looking at the title, and that anyone who was behind on watching 24 would avoid clicking on a 24-related thread. Sorry for overestimating you